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November 02, 2018, 02:05:55 PM
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Mdayonliner, I was refering to xtraelv's post, #41 where it shows you posted the same likes & shares links as nguyenthanhhieu did the day prior.  I don't know if you explained that or if I missed the explanation or what. 

In any case, after reflecting on this I suspect this is an error you made when copying the report format from another post, which I've seen many bounty hunters do.  That was the basis for the feedback I left you.

I'd like to hear the opinions about this from xtraelv and any of the other members I generally trust who've posted in this thread.  Just about the possible bounty abuse and the credibility of the evidence presented here.

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November 02, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
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Mdayonliner, I was refering to xtraelv's post, #41 where it shows you posted the same likes & shares links as nguyenthanhhieu did the day prior.  I don't know if you explained that or if I missed the explanation or what. 

In any case, after reflecting on this I suspect this is an error you made when copying the report format from another post, which I've seen many bounty hunters do.  That was the basis for the feedback I left you.

I'd like to hear the opinions about this from xtraelv and any of the other members I generally trust who've posted in this thread.  Just about the possible bounty abuse and the credibility of the evidence presented here.
I am not sure either they are alt of Mdayonliner or not but according to My post/proof they are same person.

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November 02, 2018, 03:48:04 PM
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Mdayonliner, I was refering to xtraelv's post, #41 where it shows you posted the same likes & shares links as nguyenthanhhieu did the day prior.  I don't know if you explained that or if I missed the explanation or what.  

In any case, after reflecting on this I suspect this is an error you made when copying the report format from another post, which I've seen many bounty hunters do.  That was the basis for the feedback I left you.

I'd like to hear the opinions about this from xtraelv and any of the other members I generally trust who've posted in this thread.  Just about the possible bounty abuse and the credibility of the evidence presented here.
I am not sure, these posts are very close and it doesn't make any sense to copy someone else's post while they could simple copy their own post and redact it (posts are 6 minutes apart), especially it doesn't make sense to use twitter account for facebook campaign:



Yet again, mday didn't use words "facebook account" as account quangtrung1991 in picture above, he used "link to facebook". They copied only his link?  Undecided

As for account nguyenthanhhieu and their post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4361343.msg39695720#msg39695720 only way they could have done this is to go to mday's twitter and copy/paste link. However, he mentioned something about:

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I have a situation here to becoming sick from last 5 days. Too much body temperature with pain all over the body, even feeling inner organs are in great pain. I thought I was recovering but seems like it's getting worse. The last three (3-5) for both twitter and Facebook was done today. I understand it might not get count however I thought I let you know my sickness.
So he either made mistake duo his sickness, someone used his twitter or someone tried to frame him.

I was thinking, only posts these accounts posted are bounty reports so why would they copy anyone's post? They are doing this on daily base, I am pretty sure they have their own drafts. Someone made mistake? I am not sure, I would say that it is possible that nguyenthanhhieu is his alt account, as this is probably first case I have seen that someone has used twitter report of random person before they even posted it.

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November 02, 2018, 04:00:02 PM
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If this can help the conversation.

About multi accounts with newbies with few posts:
I've found in the past some newbies posting with random data and accounts with also fake eth address only to increase the post count.
(So in my experience is not a solid proof and someone else can copypaste with bad intention, Image someone gets redtrust and makes a newbie account with the giver of feedback data and report it as alt after few months)

About spreadsheet: Anyone can put fake data, I've found mine also few times, one I've also found Lauda or Mitchell profile, here the report as example https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1snYAM149wlNDyh0_lkR1I3ZQdHkI9Rme-P0IFG9EvBs/edit?usp=sharing from this bounty: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9fTA-P8zynx-I3GEzGaY1IVTtDPYzaL8JkCskPC764/edit#gid=1610161553

About Credits managering: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4815408.0

I'm not saying he is innocent or guilty, but I don't think posts from a random 4 posts newbie is a solid proof of alt abusing.

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November 03, 2018, 06:34:46 AM
Last edit: November 03, 2018, 09:24:16 AM by xtraelv
 #65

Mdayonliner, I was refering to xtraelv's post, #41 where it shows you posted the same likes & shares links as nguyenthanhhieu did the day prior.  I don't know if you explained that or if I missed the explanation or what.  

In any case, after reflecting on this I suspect this is an error you made when copying the report format from another post, which I've seen many bounty hunters do.  That was the basis for the feedback I left you.

I'd like to hear the opinions about this from xtraelv and any of the other members I generally trust who've posted in this thread.  Just about the possible bounty abuse and the credibility of the evidence presented here.

phantiennghia - post is incomplete an just looks weird. It would not benefit Mdayonliner in a bounty.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1999151;sa=showPosts

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I haven't looked at this one closely yet.
There social media accounts are blocked / banned / suspended.
https://twitter.com/SDCulinaryInfo?lang=vi



nguyenthanhhieu
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2145313;sa=showPosts
Follows Creative designs with their twitter.
https://twitter.com/HieuNt2995/following


So it is possible that they were following Mdayonliner and used his post before he did.

I'm on the fence about that one. There are not enough posts on nguyenthanhhieu profile to compare posting style.

nguyenthanhhieu looks like part of an account farm. Look at the time between posts.


Currently there is not a lot of evidence to support it other than that link.

I'd be tempted to give him the benefit of doubt since he did expose a lot of account farmers through his activities on here. It is quite possible that it is either a template copy or deliberate attempt to discredit him.
His reaction to the accusation makes me think that they are not his alts.

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November 06, 2018, 02:02:08 AM
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I'd be tempted to give him the benefit of doubt since he did expose a lot of account farmers through his activities on here.
Yeah, I already removed the neg I had on him after some consideration of the possibilities of what could have happened.  I know a lot of folks disagree with me on this, but I never thought mdayonliner had any scammy intentions though I admit I cannot know what his intentions are/were. 

I'm somewhat aware of the Ponzi accusations against him, and I've already expressed my opinion about that and about Ponzis as they're conducted as a form of gambling on bitcointalk.  Mdayonliner has always struck me as an individual who's trying to make a lot of money very quickly and tried to establish a reputation for himself here waay too quickly.  The escrow offer was ill-advised, and he paid for that with a neg from hilariousandco.

Whatever the case may be, I don't see enough evidence that he used alt accounts to abuse a bounty.  I thought I did, but now I'm not comfortable with that "evidence" or with leaving him a neg.  If any concrete proof comes along, I will definitely consider it and act accordingly.

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November 25, 2018, 12:41:07 PM
Last edit: November 25, 2018, 12:55:16 PM by mdayonliner
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Whatever the case may be, I don't see enough evidence that he used alt accounts to abuse a bounty.  I thought I did, but now I'm not comfortable with that "evidence" or with leaving him a neg.  If any concrete proof comes along, I will definitely consider it and act accordingly.
Thanks The Pharmacist. I never thought to have an alt, never wanted to make big money (which compromise basic human morals) using the forum, never wanted to break any rule(consciously). I gave my best to respect the rules, to respect the community, to keep things in order to help the community. I fell for Bitcoin long ago. Then when I found the community, I felt the urge to do something for the community to help the concept of decentralized currency economy. I wanted to have a good impression of my image, I wanted to create a good brand for my name. I guess it's a very common motivation.

This is for the readers:
I promoted some business in the past (before joining the forum like I said all the time and that's truth) which are not acceptable for some groups (here in this forum, they have different opinions and views) but those who know the industry, know (knew me while I was involved) me, know the business model, know how to sell online products (like anything), know how to learn skills - they always expressed their gratitude, we respected each others, many of them still ask for guidelines from me even though they know I left the industry. I was involved with advertising (precisely online marketing) industry. I promoted several affiliate products (like Ledger products, different hosting services, eBooks, digital educational materials, physical products along with all those online businesses which marked as ponzi business here for some groups) and that requires skills. Try to sell a pen online (not just list it on ebay or AliExpress, think how ebay got their name, think how AliExpress got their name - create an eCommerce brand)  and see for yourself what it takes. These days production is easy but creating marketplace, finding customers to sell your products is the hardest part.

I realize, offering the escrow of 20BTC was very ambitious and that was a mistake I made.

Anyway, I do not have any regret for what I did in the past, I always knew/know my intentions which were/are not to harm anyone and that matters for me. If you can not align with me then it's not my problem, perhaps it's not your problem too. It's the different life experience, different social status, different motivations between you and me. I am proud of what I achieved, I am proud of myself.

Lately, I have decided to change my mind. If I quit then no one will ever know who was mdayonliner, who was me. Perhaps people will conclude me as a ponzi promoter or someone who wanted to scam big money (perhaps this 20BTC escrow deal) and when failed, he left. I don't want to put this bad label next to me. From now on, I will continue with mdayonliner and will keep doing that I was doing all those days. I missed my days on bitcointalk.

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November 30, 2018, 10:15:22 PM
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I realize, offering the escrow of 20BTC was very ambitious and that was a mistake I made.
Thanks that you realized. But it's too late. I am not your hater, I just want to repeat TP reply. You always try to argue and convince second party. You had not tried to convince yourself. I can't remember who quoted that, but it's true,
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However welcome back. Hope you will correction yourself, not just this account. Change should be on person behaviour, it could be this account or others account  Wink Best of luck ...

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December 08, 2018, 05:52:49 AM
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People most of the time are very judgmental, i know you just want to let everyone know, and it's up to use to believe it anyway... But it would be nice to see other people that deals with you will testify that you're not a scammer just what other thinks of you. 
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