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April 27, 2019, 08:30:58 AM
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Fear when others are greedy, greed when others fear - Buffett

Those who have had a trading experience will realize “fear and greed”, they will make you struggle in hesitation, whether should we take action? There is nothing wrong with “fear and greed” in trading. Buffett’s famous saying tells us that there should be a little more reverse thinking in the trading process.
 
Reverse thinking and herd mentality are correspond. In the stock market, when a small number of people notice the bull market, the market will not undergo qualitative change. When the majority of people are optimistic, the market will undergo qualitative changes. The same is true for bear markets. The stock market continues to fall, and the pessimistic atmosphere permeates the entire market. For some people with reverse thinking, it is the best time to invest. Buffett has a saying: When people are flocking, you should be careful; when people are afraid, you should try to be interested in it. Whether it is so-called investment or speculation, obtaining a high return on the final profit is the real motivation for people to invest in stocks.
Reverse thinking is embodied in the stock market:
1. The extremes of things must be reversed: the truth of the universe develops to the limit, and it will transform in the opposite direction. This is the general law of everything. When 99% of people see more, the market may peak, and when the vast majority of people are short, the market will change.

2. A small number of majority: In the bear market, when the stock price falls to the bottom of the valley, most people have already left the market, and the main funds have also been withdrawn. Most people think that the market will continue to fall, and the result will be that the market will gradually strengthen.

3. Most of the minority: In the bull market, when the stock price climbs to the peak, it can be said that more than 99% of the people are bullish, they think that the stock price will rise, and when the people who want to buy stocks buy the stock, So, who are they selling to?
Fear and greed in trading
There is nothing wrong with "fear and greed" in trading. It can be said that fear and greed are the driving force behind people's willingness to participate in speculative trading. Because you fear that your money will be less, so you have to speculate; because you want your money to get more and more, so you have to participate in speculation. Fear and greed are the inner nature of human beings, your inner "existence", how can you "success" your "existence".

The root cause of greed is because you are unaware. If you know that "meat" is hung above the trap, you will not greedily take the piece of meat.

Fear is the first personal experience since your birth, otherwise you will not cry when you are born. The only way to get rid of fear is not to “before fear” but to “get deep into fear” and “to accept fear”. Only when you accept "fear" completely, fear can disappear. Your biggest fear in trading is "to win and lose" and to lose money. So there is such a saying in the transaction: "Love your loss, let the profit grow naturally"; "Unless you can accept your losses, you are likely to make a steady profit" These statements are by no means nonsense.

So the point is not to stare at how you can overcome "fear and greed" but to be aware of what changes are taking place in the market.

When people face something new, there is always fear. Recently, the crazy skyrocketing platform token FOT has made many people lament that it is too late to get on the bus. People don’t dare to start when the platform currency is first released. The fear makes many people tremble. In two months, the price of FOT has risen from 0.03USD to 0.394USD. The earliest people who have started have earned more than 11 times. Some people are good at FOT, and they are prepared to start a lot of FOT, but the innate psychology makes him cautious to make transactions. On the one hand, he wants to catch up with the next surge of the FOT. On the other hand, he has various concerns and has a rush. I began to hesitate and doubt. It is not unreasonable to seek to avoid disadvantages, but to deal with this matter, it is still necessary to accept your own losses. If every day fear occupies your mind, the platform is a waste.

PlusFo has always been committed to creating a completely ecological platform, including mining, quantification, games and many other forms of application. In the future, PlusFo will gather all aspects of medical beauty, e-commerce and other applications, and become a new ecosystem. The platform currency FOT can be converted into four major currencies, which can also be obtained through mainstream currency exchange. Those who are good have become the VIP of PlusFo, and they will get a super bonus per month and enjoy monthly dividends.

A veteran player once said: "When I am optimistic about a project, I will definitely seize the opportunity. When most people are afraid, I will be greedy. When most people start greed, I become afraid. VIP is A lever on this road, he magnified the timing."
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April 27, 2019, 12:43:45 PM
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You should've really cut the chase on posting a very long introduction about Fear & Greed since most people who are trading are aware of it. You should've just posted links and details about Plusfo for people to read more about what you are marketing.

IMHO, people do not bother reading lengthy post, especially if it is not something major. Just go directly to your point and advertise your project.  Grin

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April 27, 2019, 02:55:50 PM
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Inspiration came out from different parts in different types for each and everyone in this field but how it can be portrayed in your trading journey is the matter of success to gain search anything to compromise your work and get the income from this field.

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April 27, 2019, 03:06:53 PM
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This sounds easy in theory, but hard on practice. Take this forum as example - it's always permabullish on Bitcoin, for every comment that tries to make a somewhat educated prediction there are dozens of comments saying "bitcoin will rise a lot, it's a good project". Similarly, you can't just listen to what the mainstream media are saying, because they all hate and don't understand Bitcoin and always say that it is dying, regardless of what is happening with the price. If you really want to know investor's mood, you have to come up with some sort of scientific measurement, like the ones that sociologists do, and that would probably cost a lot.

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April 27, 2019, 06:20:32 PM
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For me controlling the fear is the most important because it will collapse everything that we we are not in your control to position when fear is came to our life so it will affect the currency investment also when you are not making the proper decision it will always be not useful for the future.

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April 28, 2019, 11:51:00 PM
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Fear when others are greedy, greed when others fear - Buffett

Those who have had a trading experience will realize “fear and greed”, they will make you struggle in hesitation, whether should we take action? There is nothing wrong with “fear and greed” in trading. Buffett’s famous saying tells us that there should be a little more reverse thinking in the trading process.

For sure. That's why I personally tend to go contrary to what the prevailing market sentiment is when it is obvious that an asset is currently in a bubble or that it is clear people have unsubstantiated fear due to a bear market.

One of the best indicators for what market sentiment is at currently would be looking at what stuff the mainstream media is putting out, because usually, they go along with whatever the hot takes are at the moment.

Of course, this won't always work out in the best possible way. It is very possible for you to miss out on potential gains, as well as potentially entering the market in an inopportune time. That's why I think averaging both your sells and buys is extremely important in any facet of investing.

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April 29, 2019, 07:30:20 AM
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This sounds easy in theory, but hard on practice. Take this forum as example - it's always permabullish on Bitcoin, for every comment that tries to make a somewhat educated prediction there are dozens of comments saying "bitcoin will rise a lot, it's a good project". Similarly, you can't just listen to what the mainstream media are saying, because they all hate and don't understand Bitcoin and always say that it is dying, regardless of what is happening with the price. If you really want to know investor's mood, you have to come up with some sort of scientific measurement, like the ones that sociologists do, and that would probably cost a lot.
I disagree. There are a plethora of naysayers in this forum who are permabearish on Bitcoin and hate it completely. Positive Bitcoin supporters and negative Bitcoin haters exist everywhere(Not just in this forum).

In my opinion, as adoption grows with time, the supporters will bypass the haters by a huge margin. Its just a matter of time.




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April 29, 2019, 09:06:17 AM
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This sounds easy in theory, but hard on practice. Take this forum as example - it's always permabullish on Bitcoin, for every comment that tries to make a somewhat educated prediction there are dozens of comments saying "bitcoin will rise a lot, it's a good project". Similarly, you can't just listen to what the mainstream media are saying, because they all hate and don't understand Bitcoin and always say that it is dying, regardless of what is happening with the price. If you really want to know investor's mood, you have to come up with some sort of scientific measurement, like the ones that sociologists do, and that would probably cost a lot.

If you like trading, you are better off looking at the bitcoinmarkets subreddit:


https://old.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/

They have a daily trading discussion thread and they delete posts that are emotional rather than reasoned. So they have a lot of TA posts, a few fundamental analysis posts, but are thankfully free of people just pumping or pushing fear stories.

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April 29, 2019, 10:43:08 AM
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No need to copy the whole article.
This is the easy way to understand it,
BUY THE FEAR, SELL THE GREED.

When you are able to read the volume and the chart as a trader, you will know how those trader goes the same way but as an experienced trader, you will not fall for it. Greed will just mess up everything together with fear and that was I proved so many times.

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When people face something new, there is always fear.

You got it right. A fear is always associated with new changes especially when the market didn't go on with your way. I guess when you felt the fear, you are not too confident with your TA and with your knowledge. I sometimes doubt my TA but at the end of the day, it just proved me that i just got fear and my TA was still correct.




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April 29, 2019, 05:49:47 PM
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I don’t literally follow that theory without a proper analysis. Buying and selling is a matter of decision, patterns in the markets are not always the same usual. Sometimes its most likely driven by emotions but you need to analyse every signals first before you get in.

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April 30, 2019, 12:59:51 AM
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Both fear and greed exist on each trader, but we have a way to control that feeling. I am sure that actually, we can control that feeling and we can trade without a problem.
But greed will come to us in the bull market since we want to make a big profit, but that is hard to happen if the price does not continue to increase. Fear will come for us for the first time, but after we try to enter to the field, we will see that there is nothing to be afraid because we can get something from that. The important thing here is we need to control ourselves to prevent fear and greed.


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April 30, 2019, 03:03:15 PM
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PlusFo has always been committed to creating a completely ecological platform, including mining, quantification, games and many other forms of application.
If this is the goal of your post, believe me, No one will not notice your site. I do not know why I read all these words but everyone will be distracted before they reach that line.
With regard to fear and risk, it is relative. You have to control your emotions, not your fears. Fear may lead you to avoid a huge loss but your passion(emotions) will lead you to that loss.

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This is the easy way to understand it,
BUY THE FEAR, SELL THE GREED.

If it was that easy, people would be filthy rich by now. There is a reason smart money is an elite in basically ANY market.

In all cases, the average person buys what pumps, sells what dumps. People think all the tips and tricks they read here are new. They are not. In the same way that people rehash them on this forum and other social media platforms, the same was and still is the case with stocks.

After decades of the same "easy" tips and tricks in the stock and forex market the average person still hasn't got a clue about how markets work, and probably never will. Those who are serious about it will dig into the technical side of markets themselves. The rest will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

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April 30, 2019, 09:35:06 PM
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I disagree. There are a plethora of naysayers in this forum who are permabearish on Bitcoin and hate it completely. Positive Bitcoin supporters and negative Bitcoin haters exist everywhere(Not just in this forum).

In my opinion, as adoption grows with time, the supporters will bypass the haters by a huge margin. Its just a matter of time.

No way, you can count all the fudders on this forum on one hand. The general sentiment is very optimistic, and in my opinion it's too optimistic. People wait how Bitcoin will soon become adopted by everyone, how it will change the world, how governments will adopt it and all banks will go out of business, but this is an utopia, it won't happen.

Bitcoin already has more supporters than haters, because haters are actually a tiny minority, and most people simply don't care about Bitcoin.

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April 30, 2019, 10:35:47 PM
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Indeed there are a lot of fudders on forums, but in my opinion i think some people invest because they want to get a profit and more coins and other not invest because they have fear will happen something and lose money, in my opinion the price will grow but no one should expect a fast grow.

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Imagine how early investors and skeptical people were there when bitcoin was created. Fear was eminent and those who saw the potential of bitcoin grabbed the chance to adapt early. Now, that the hype on bitcoin due to it's popularity and potential is eminent, people are panicking to buy even those who don't have knowledge about crypto.

As long as you have knowledge you will never hesitate and ask what ifs or seek what might, you will always be on the right track. You will not hesitate when you know what is coming, and you will not grab something that might left you with nothing. Crypto market is all about timing and psychological warfare.

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May 04, 2019, 03:31:09 AM
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For me controlling the fear is the most important because it will collapse everything that we we are not in your control to position when fear is came to our life so it will affect the currency investment also when you are not making the proper decision it will always be not useful for the future.

It doesn't need to be either/or. If you are worried you have too much investment in bitcoin, then it makes sense to take some profts. Rockerfeller, one of the richest men of all time, said that "nobody got poor by taking profits".

Forget about aboslute values - that depends on your entry point. Look instead at percentage gains. As the price goes up, take reasonable profits. If the price subsequently goes back down, buy back in again. Just recognise there are no rules, and that anything can happen.

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May 04, 2019, 03:52:36 AM
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This is the easy way to understand it,
BUY THE FEAR, SELL THE GREED.

If it was that easy, people would be filthy rich by now. There is a reason smart money is an elite in basically ANY market.

In all cases, the average person buys what pumps, sells what dumps. People think all the tips and tricks they read here are new. They are not. In the same way that people rehash them on this forum and other social media platforms, the same was and still is the case with stocks.

After decades of the same "easy" tips and tricks in the stock and forex market the average person still hasn't got a clue about how markets work, and probably never will. Those who are serious about it will dig into the technical side of markets themselves. The rest will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Trading is not an easy thing to do based on my own experience. Even professional traders can commit big blunders and can sometimes cost them or their companies millions of dollars. There are a lot of components in trading that one has to take into account every time doing the thing. This can be the big reason why many gave up doing trading...but the allure of good money is always there that is why new traders keep on sprouting like mushrooms making this industry always alive and kicking. Just like anything in life, fear and greed are two human traits or emotions that can push someone to perdition or to greater heights of success...this is very much quite true and evident in trading.


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