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October 17, 2018, 11:17:40 PM
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There is only one thing to be said, which also suprisingly describes western foreign policy pretty good:

MBS may be a son of a bitch, but he is our son of a bitch.


Btw. How do you win hearts and minds?

Bomb them to the stoneage.
The best that can be done is to sanction them and I would like to see the stance that the EU takes towards the Saudis since they put some sanctions on Russia when they allegedly killed one of their former spies in Europe.

 
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October 18, 2018, 02:10:06 AM
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LOL fuck off with the world police shit already I don't need to pay more at the pump in Canada because some moron dissident was stupid enough to go into a dictators embassy.

US consume lots oil, Saudi Arabia sells lots of oil, US makes Arms, Saudi Arabia buys Arms, Trump sells lots of apartments, Saudi's buy lots of apartments from Trump!  Hmm not hard to see that the only people that will end up being hurt by this is the poor sacks of shit like me at the pump... Any fucking sanctions aren't going to hurt anyone but "me".

Did this commie just say he wants higher gas prices?

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October 18, 2018, 02:51:40 AM
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LOL fuck off with the world police shit already I don't need to pay more at the pump in Canada because some moron dissident was stupid enough to go into a dictators embassy.

US consume lots oil, Saudi Arabia sells lots of oil, US makes Arms, Saudi Arabia buys Arms, Trump sells lots of apartments, Saudi's buy lots of apartments from Trump!  Hmm not hard to see that the only people that will end up being hurt by this is the poor sacks of shit like me at the pump... Any fucking sanctions aren't going to hurt anyone but "me".

Did this commie just say he wants higher gas prices?

YOUR GAS PRICES ARE HIGH BECAUSE OF TAXES, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE YOU COMMIE <3 - https://retail.petro-canada.ca/en/fuelsavings/gas-taxes-canada.aspx link here for taxes related to gas in Canada.



I know why they are high right now, I am saying I don't want them higher because of this situation and America playing world police could make the price I pay higher than it is now.  America and Saudi Arabia have a little tiff and I pay more than I do already so I don't like that and I say fuck off already.

Sheeesh you Fascists have a problem with reading comprehension!  One would think you were the one enjoying legal marijuana but alas your not lucky enough to live in Canada!  Cool  Wink

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October 18, 2018, 03:55:28 AM
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LOL fuck off with the world police shit already I don't need to pay more at the pump in Canada because some moron dissident was stupid enough to go into a dictators embassy.

US consume lots oil, Saudi Arabia sells lots of oil, US makes Arms, Saudi Arabia buys Arms, Trump sells lots of apartments, Saudi's buy lots of apartments from Trump!  Hmm not hard to see that the only people that will end up being hurt by this is the poor sacks of shit like me at the pump... Any fucking sanctions aren't going to hurt anyone but "me".

Did this commie just say he wants higher gas prices?

YOUR GAS PRICES ARE HIGH BECAUSE OF TAXES, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE YOU COMMIE <3 - https://retail.petro-canada.ca/en/fuelsavings/gas-taxes-canada.aspx link here for taxes related to gas in Canada.



I know why they are high right now, I am saying I don't want them higher because of this situation and America playing world police could make the price I pay higher than it is now.  America and Saudi Arabia have a little tiff and I pay more than I do already so I don't like that and I say fuck off already.

Sheeesh you Fascists have a problem with reading comprehension!  One would think you were the one enjoying legal marijuana but alas your not lucky enough to live in Canada!  Cool  Wink

Two words - ENERGY INDEPENDENCE!

But in all honesty, I did know what you meant -- I just think that it is fair for this death to be questioned. Though I don't think a world police action (invasion, etc) is needed.




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October 18, 2018, 09:32:14 AM
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The best that can be done is to sanction them and I would like to see the stance that the EU takes towards the Saudis since they put some sanctions on Russia when they allegedly killed one of their former spies in Europe.
Made an attempt at killing.
And if you believe the media, an inept one: using substance Novichok instead of well-known specialized poisons, poisons that leave no traces in the body nor in the environment, resulting in unclear cause of death like heart attack.
And somehow they escaped cameras and curious eyes in a very quiet, rich neighbourhood.

Obviously, there will be no sanctions, in this case. Who is that journalist, compared to Skripal the 4-way spy?

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I believe he is a US citizen,

Hes a permanent resident, not a citizen of the US.  Hes a Saudi citizen although he does have 2 children that are American Citizens.
That weakens the case for action a little bit. Although I would probably still want action considering he worked for a US company in the US as a reporter.

He has fairly strong ties to the US and isn’t accused of doing anything that would threaten anyone’s safety.
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Trump has asked the free market to ignore those who inaccurately and unfairly report on him. He hasn’t caused any form of violence or otherwise attempted to use force to compel any reporters to say certain things.


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Trump has asked the free market to ignore those who inaccurately and unfairly report on him. He hasn’t caused any form of violence or otherwise attempted to use force to compel any reporters to say certain things.

Ah, someone with a little sense that knows that simply calling out fake news isn't an 'unfair attack on the media by the President of the United States' Thank god....

I don't understand why people will 'protect' the media from their lying. I'm not going to say that all media has to be unbiased, as they're able to do as they please -- but for godsake we should be able to call them out on what they do.




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Trump has asked the free market to ignore those who inaccurately and unfairly report on him. He hasn’t caused any form of violence or otherwise attempted to use force to compel any reporters to say certain things.


Ah, someone with a little sense that knows that simply calling out fake news isn't an 'unfair attack on the media by the President of the United States' Thank god....

LOL calling the free press that doesn't agree with Trump the "enemy of the people" on literally dozens of occasions would probably be classified at least by most reasonable people as being a little harsher than "simply calling out fake news".  Do you know how many dictators have called the free press "the enemy of the people"? Literally every single dictator that has ever reigned has said exactly the same fucking thing that the POTUS has been saying for a few years now.  If that doesn't give Americans a reason to think then you guys are retards.

No one has accused the president of causing violence or trying to use force to compel the American press but he has waged a verbal and social media war against everyone but FOX.  And like LOL they won't even carry his lame rallies hahahahahahaha.
LOL after making this post I saw the rally this evening where trump praised a GOP Rep for "body slamming" a reporter, almost sounds like hes endorsing violence or something against the enemy of the people, errrr, I mean reporter..!!  The president endorsing violence against reporters could probably be considered causing violence now LOL

I don't understand why people will 'protect' the media from their lying. I'm not going to say that all media has to be unbiased, as they're able to do as they please -- but for godsake we should be able to call them out on what they do.

Of course people can call them out, again most reasonable people use facts to call out fake news, much like the free press does about the State Sponsored TV station and Trump's fake news.

But I know the right can't understand it even though the majority of Americans do.

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October 19, 2018, 04:50:02 PM
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don’t think the US should go into full world police mode over something like this.

"world police" and "don't react" are not the only options. There is no logical reason why the US should continue to support the terrorism-sponsoring Saudi regime that is engaging in extrajudicial killings. Business deals can be replaced, it's not like there is a lack of money elsewhere in the world. Peace and stability in the Middle East might even benefit if Saudis are cut off from arms deals etc.

LOL fuck off with the world police shit already I don't need to pay more at the pump in Canada because some moron dissident was stupid enough to go into a dictators embassy.

I'm not sure if buying oil from murderous dictatorships is really the best strategy for maintaining low prices at the pump. Or to put it another way, the US has been sponsoring your lavish lifestyle by pouring trillions of dollars into assorted wars to keep the cheap oil flowing... man up, go get some oil wells in the Middle East yourself, or dig your own tar sands Grin

So the US should stay the fuck out of it over there cause they ain't fixin it anytime soon!

Precisely. Perhaps they could stay just outside of Saudi ports and make sure the oil tankers don't overcrowd the shipping lanes.

Trump has asked the free market to ignore those who inaccurately and unfairly report on him. He hasn’t caused any form of violence or otherwise attempted to use force to compel any reporters to say certain things.

Of course he hasn't, he's just supporting and inciting violence like any other fascist coward...

Trump hails body slamming Congressman Greg Gianforte in Montana
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45913921

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don’t think the US should go into full world police mode over something like this.

"world police" and "don't react" are not the only options. There is no logical reason why the US should continue to support the terrorism-sponsoring Saudi regime that is engaging in extrajudicial killings. Business deals can be replaced, it's not like there is a lack of money elsewhere in the world. Peace and stability in the Middle East might even benefit if Saudis are cut off from arms deals etc.
hehe I knew you were funny but didn't know you were hilarious.  If you think for a second westerners are ever going to understand and bring peace and stability to a region on earth that has been embroiled in religious conflicts about some holy sand dune for thousands of years then I think you're pie in the sky dreaming.  You can't reason with religious Zealots, you will always be wrong and they will always be right, never have been able too never will be able too.

If I'm completely honest the reason I don't think the US should get involved is because it's lip service bullshit.  If I actually thought for a second any American "response" would actually address or change the situation than I could probably be convinced its the right thing to do.  But since MBS will be the leader of SA no matter what its a lavish blow job for the public.

While I do agree that there is a big scale between world police and no action the stuff in between hasn't been effective IMO.  If you're gonna be the cops shit or get off the pot IMO.

LOL fuck off with the world police shit already I don't need to pay more at the pump in Canada because some moron dissident was stupid enough to go into a dictators embassy.

I'm not sure if buying oil from murderous dictatorships is really the best strategy for maintaining low prices at the pump. Or to put it another way, the US has been sponsoring your lavish lifestyle by pouring trillions of dollars into assorted wars to keep the cheap oil flowing... man up, go get some oil wells in the Middle East yourself, or dig your own tar sands Grin

Why not westerners have been buying oil from murderous dictators for several generations now.  Sometimes Americans go to war for oil with a murderous dictator they previously installed and bought oil from for years!

BTW speaking of the tar sands, in 2017 the US imported approx 10 mil barrels of oil a day, surprisingly enough 4 mil barrels a day comes from Canada, yay!  The US imports approx 1 mil barrels a day from Saudi Arabia (Can and SA are the 2 largest importers of oil to the US)
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6

So the US should stay the fuck out of it over there cause they ain't fixin it anytime soon!

Precisely. Perhaps they could stay just outside of Saudi ports and make sure the oil tankers don't overcrowd the shipping lanes.
You mean like a "police" blockade of sorts with warships, that doesn't sound like staying out of it hehe?  If you guys could be so kind as to let me know a little before that happens I would appreciate it so I can go buy some stocks in Canadian oil companies, an extra 1 mmb/d for us should have a nice gain on the market yay Canada!  Unfortunately it would still mean an increase at the pump for me but I could offset it with some tasty gains from Canadian oil stocks!

Trump has asked the free market to ignore those who inaccurately and unfairly report on him. He hasn’t caused any form of violence or otherwise attempted to use force to compel any reporters to say certain things.

Of course he hasn't, he's just supporting and inciting violence like any other fascist coward...

Trump hails body slamming Congressman Greg Gianforte in Montana
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45913921

Dictator 101, control the press any way you can.  Kill em if you can, if not call them the enemy of the people and convince normal folks of that!  Trump literally wants to be president for LIFE, we have a word for that if only I could remember it...

Precisely. Perhaps they could stay just outside of Saudi ports and make sure the oil tankers don't overcrowd the shipping lanes.


You mean like the Americans have allowed the Saudis to do to the ships bringing food to the people starving in Yemen?

Maybe send your war ships up to remove the blockade so people can eat, fuck the people of Yemen are more concerned with food than oil ATM.  To bad Yemen didn't import a million barrels of oil a day to the US then they might be able to eat!

American foreign policy is so fucking hypocritical and as much as I would love to blame Trump for it that would be quite silly as this problem pre-dates Trump by a few generations!

And because its so hypocritical I can't support actions agaisnt SA while they sell arms to them for the war in Yemen and allow a blockade to starve millions of civilians.  So yes I still say you guys should stay the fuck out of it.

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October 19, 2018, 07:26:12 PM
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Peace and stability in the Middle East might even benefit if Saudis are cut off from arms deals etc.
hehe I knew you were funny but didn't know you were hilarious.  If you think for a second westerners are ever going to understand and bring peace and stability to a region on earth that has been embroiled in religious conflicts about some holy sand dune for thousands of years then I think you're pie in the sky dreaming.  You can't reason with religious Zealots, you will always be wrong and they will always be right, never have been able too never will be able too.

Hey, the second part of the sentence matters too - the benefit I was thinking of would be mainly due to the US not supporting one side or another. Granted that might result in Israel eventually nuking everybody else off, yay Darwin.

You mean like a "police" blockade of sorts with warships, that doesn't sound like staying out of it hehe?  If you guys could be so kind as to let me know a little before that happens I would appreciate it so I can go buy some stocks in Canadian oil companies, an extra 1 mmb/d for us should have a nice gain on the market yay Canada!  Unfortunately it would still mean an increase at the pump for me but I could offset it with some tasty gains from Canadian oil stocks!

I was gonna say "buy a Tesla" or "buy some Tesla stock" but maybe not. Ride a bike perhaps. Or ski, or whatever hippies do up there.

Dictator 101, control the press any way you can.  Kill em if you can, if not call them the enemy of the people and convince normal folks of that!  Trump literally wants to be president for LIFE, we have a word for that if only I could remember it...

The thing that's probably most perplexing for me in this whole murder-a-journalist-you-don't-like story is the pretzel logic of some Republicans trying to justify any stupid shit coming out of Trump's mouth. This is not a new phenomenon in general, but quite new in the context as it's not about Hillary, Putin, NorK, tariffs, brown people, it's about Muslims but this time it's the ones with lots of money so... these ones are cool? Or is it because they hate WaPo (or journalists in general) more than Muslims? Puzzling.

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The Saudi government has already acknowledged this event.
But I think there are two doubts about this event.

1. Saudi intelligence agencies should be professional, they can kill Megathread anywhere outside the embassy, It is very stupid and unprofessional to commit crimes in the embassy.
2. Megathread's activities are very wide, and Saudi agents can completely create some abnormal deaths, such as "car accidents", "heart disease", "falling buildings" and other accidents. There is no need to directly kill and even dismember, This technique is very poor for agents.

So I think Saudi Arabia’s approach is too arrogant and too stupid. Of course, an evil regime is usually very arrogant and stupid.
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they can kill Megathread

Ok now you got me worried. Are we all in danger here?

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they can kill Megathread anywhere outside the embassy...
2. Megathread's activities are very wide, and Saudi agents can completely create some abnormal deaths

Ok now you got me worried. Are we all in danger here?
Yeah we are. Moron Ben Salman gonna hunt us all with his mercenary and put us in the roasted chicken position inside his castle oven then of course cut the hell outta us. Too bad.

Saudis (politicians ofc) think they are talking to a bunch of dummies with IQ level similar to them.
Ok "we" killed him after a fight and boom there is no body? The best part is hunting/killing his (MBS) closest friends, he will be left alone and will pay...one-day.

 
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they can kill Megathread

Ok now you got me worried. Are we all in danger here?

OMG this made me laugh so hard Grin. There is someone walking around thinking Megathread is the name of the journalist...

Anyway, the whole world is reacting. US may not want to lose some deals and that is fine, but to not strongly condemn such actions becase - taxes? C'mon.
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October 20, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
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they can kill Megathread

Ok now you got me worried. Are we all in danger here?

~snip~

OMG this made me laugh so hard Grin. There is someone walking around thinking Megathread is the name of the journalist...

Well,the journalist name is Jamal Khashoggi, I admit that my thoughts at the time was forked.   LOL
If you think this is funny, laugh out loud.  Grin
Ok, I have to go now, because I am also part of "Megathread", Moron Ben Salman is hunting me now, and you better run now too, or you will be found and killed.


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~snip~
And what about the Journalist Sagor-Runi Murder case which was happened back in 2012 and still unsolved? Have you ever heard of this? Sorry, for quite off-topic.
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The way I see it:
- Well, I don't know, oh Mahmoud ...
- Muhammed.
- Who cares? How did I advise you? Carefully with polonium, Novichok as a last resort but not in your own consulate!
- Anyway, they will find out ...
- Well, say they have come to see the minarets, accused of Saudophobia ... Why did you fess up??
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