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October 17, 2018, 01:29:52 PM
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Thanks for the numbers!

Errors to fix first Sad It seems to fail on users with many posts.
Update: you have 9 less pages of post history when I'm not logged in (which is what my scraper gets). Vod misses 10 pages. That caused the errors. Here's yours:

Posts in Investigations etc? Not sure if there could be that many though. Sorry that my shitposting broke your code Smiley

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October 17, 2018, 05:39:34 PM
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Do me! And, if it's not too much to ask, the members of the Vulpine Order of Merit whom you haven't already done or are going to do (Jet Cash, achow101, gmaxwell, and o_e_l_e_o). I'm interested to know if my high expectations for the Order are justified.


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@LoyceV can you list the users who awarded the most number of merits for the deleted posts?
No, unfortunately I can't. That would require scraping all posts from all merited users.

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Btw why you specifically chosen Alex_Sr for your list in the OP? Is he the member who has the most merits for the post that are now deleted?
I took him as an example because I remembered his name. He's one of the users who received a lot of Merit from xandry, who used to give Merit for reporting spam or plagiarism (I don't remember exactly), which was deleted after taking Mod action on the offenders. There's a thread about it somewhere, and he stopped doing this. It's not necessarily abuse, but it was debated and made a nice example of a user with many deleted posts. See xandry's full Merit history for a long list of Merit sent to posts that are now deleted.

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I'm somewhat confused to understand whether this number is positive indicator or negative indicator when comparing stats Huh
It depends on the reason the posts were deleted. In general, I don't think it's a good thing. But it also depends on the board, I can imagine some good posts disappeared when the entire thread was trashed. Or posted on a board that I can't scrape.

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October 17, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
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Source merits are a constant flow, and not a monthly update. They are replaced 30 days after being awarded. If they aren't awarded instantly, they aren't lost, it just means a slight delay in their replacement.

True, but technically the delay means some sMerits are "lost" (not generated at the full capacity) if you don't drain your source to 0 at least once every 30 days.

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October 19, 2018, 12:20:44 PM
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Uh, #metoo?
Can you do the same for sent merit as well? idk, I am just trying to put your mind at more work which would lead have no actual IRL use.  Undecided

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October 19, 2018, 01:26:00 PM
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Uh, #metoo?

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Can you do the same for sent merit as well?
I can't really calculate a percentage for sent Merit, as there's no way I can know how many posts you've read.

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idk, I am just trying to put your mind at more work which would lead have no actual IRL use.  Undecided
Lol Cheesy

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October 19, 2018, 06:02:25 PM
Last edit: October 22, 2018, 03:59:13 PM by Heisenberg_Hunter
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Merit/New Post Toppers so far :  Grin

1. gmaxwell [7.1000 Merit per new post]
2. johank [5.5714 Merit per new post]
3. theymos [3.3760 Merit per new post]
4. satoshi [2.2671 Merit per old post]
5. achow101 [1.0991 Merit per new post]
6. nullius [1.0669 Merit per new post]
7. DdmrDdmr [0.9981 Merit per new post]
8. Foxpup [0.7747 Merit per new post]
9. hilariousetc [0.5845 Merit per new post]
10. LoyceV [0.3737 Merit per new post]
11. Piggy [0.3560 Merit per new post]

Seems like gmaxwell's in-depth replies to each of the technical questions he replies receives a lot of merits. Almost all the Core devs (except very few like gmaxwell and achow101, though achow101 doesn't have commit access to the core) stopped responding in this forum and have been inactive for more than a year or 2 leaving maxwell and Andrew the only devs to reply back to some really difficult bitcoin issues which pops up occasionally in Tech Board.



LoyceV can I have mine please?  Cheesy

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October 20, 2018, 12:42:17 PM
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Merit/New Post Toppers so far :  Grin

1. gmaxwell [7.1000 Merit per new post]
2. theymos [3.3760 Merit per new post]
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This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future Smiley

Now he is currently at the position 2 in the Merit/New post toppers list, but not theymos

1. gmaxwell [7.1000 Merit per new post]
2. johank [5.6428 Merit per new post]
3. theymos [3.3760 Merit per new post]
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October 20, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
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LoyceV can I have mine please?  Cheesy

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This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future Smiley

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October 20, 2018, 01:50:05 PM
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This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future Smiley

The average is skewed heavily by 50 merits from theymos for this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4980960.0

This might be not sustainable.

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October 20, 2018, 02:42:44 PM
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This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future Smiley

The average is skewed heavily by 50 merits from theymos for this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4980960.0

This might be not sustainable.
Fair enough, but theymos has also received 5 Txn. of 50 merits, 1 Txn. of 45 merits, 1 Txn. of 42 merits and 2 Txn. of 40 merits. That means total of 417 merits in just 9 transactions.

So if we removed those 417 from 1266, his average of Merit/New post would also reduced from 3.3760 to 2.2640 Wink
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October 20, 2018, 04:17:49 PM
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This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future Smiley

The average is skewed heavily by 50 merits from theymos for this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4980960.0

This might be not sustainable.
Fair enough, but theymos has also received 5 Txn. of 50 merits, 1 Txn. of 45 merits, 1 Txn. of 42 merits and 2 Txn. of 40 merits. That means total of 417 merits in just 9 transactions.

So if we removed those 417 from 1266, his average of Merit/New post would also reduced from 3.3760 to 2.2640 Wink

It would be interesting to see a ranking of users who received no more than 2 merits from other users and no more than 10 merits for a given post. That is, users who are constantly receiving merits for common posts. Which are neither extraordinary nor outlier, but still produce content interesting enough to receive some merits.
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October 21, 2018, 06:31:44 PM
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Source merits are a constant flow, and not a monthly update. They are replaced 30 days after being awarded. If they aren't awarded instantly, they aren't lost, it just means a slight delay in their replacement.
Looks like theymos didn't agree with your explanation, but with the @suchmoon Wink

If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.
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October 23, 2018, 09:37:27 AM
Last edit: October 23, 2018, 10:05:31 AM by LoyceV
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It would be interesting to see a ranking of users who received no more than 2 merits from other users and no more than 10 merits for a given post. That is, users who are constantly receiving merits for common posts. Which are neither extraordinary nor outlier, but still produce content interesting enough to receive some merits.
That would be an interesting list indeed, but I'm not going to make it. Feel free to use Full Merit history to make this list. It should be pretty straight forward to do, if needed I can add usernames to the list of userIDs.




I've slightly updated my script, it now counts how many individual posts received Merit:

User LoyceV (full history)
  • Received a total of 1135 Merit up to last Friday.
  • Received 88 Merit (7.75%) for 9 (0.26%) of 3404 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0258 Merit per old post).
  • Received 1045 Merit (92.07%) for 282 (10.45%) of 2696 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3876 Merit per new post).
  • Received 2 Merit (0.17%) for posts that are now deleted.


I've updated satoshi's en theymos' stats in the OP.

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October 27, 2018, 10:18:33 AM
Last edit: November 01, 2018, 09:10:11 AM by LoyceV
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(this statistic was needed as a reference for another post of mine)


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  • Received a total of 67 Merit up to last Friday.
  • Received 3 Merit (4.47%) for 3 (0.08%) of 3745 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0008 Merit per old post).
  • Received 62 Merit (92.53%) for 24 (2.79%) of 858 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.0722 Merit per new post).
  • Received 2 Merit (2.98%) for posts that are now deleted.


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User OgNasty (full history)
  • Received a total of 391 Merit up to last Friday.
  • Received 130 Merit (33.24%) for 13 (0.20%) of 6226 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0208 Merit per old post).
  • Received 254 Merit (64.96%) for 93 (8.01%) of 1161 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2187 Merit per new post).
  • Received 7 Merit (1.79%) for posts that are now deleted.


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November 19, 2018, 04:44:16 PM
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could i please also be added to the list? would very much like to see some details Smiley

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November 20, 2018, 11:37:09 AM
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could i please also be added to the list?
Here's yours:

User mole0815 (full history)
  • Received a total of 431 Merit up to last Friday.
  • Received 2 Merit (0.46%) for 2 (2.15%) of 93 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0215 Merit per old post).
  • Received 429 Merit (99.53%) for 162 (9.92%) of 1632 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2628 Merit per new post).
  • Received 0 Merit for posts that are now deleted.


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November 20, 2018, 11:55:14 AM
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If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire

If you can only find 3 merit worthy posts in a month, then you shouldn't be a merit source in my opinion. I often find more than 3 in a day, but I can still end the day with a few source merits available for the next day's reading. I try to keep my personal sMerits for rewarding Fit to Talk projects that are moved into Bitcoin Talk, but this has been a bit slow recently, so I've got a total approaching 200 sMeits waiting for some good political translation posts.

Also, I think it would be a bit excessive to give a brand new member 50 points for his first post. I would rather give one or two points each to 25-50 new members to encourage them.

££&$$>  Find out about rail biking in the Jet Cash coffee lounge thread on the Ivory Tower board. <££&$$.
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November 20, 2018, 03:45:14 PM
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could i please also be added to the list?
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  • Received a total of 431 Merit up to last Friday.
  • Received 2 Merit (0.46%) for 2 (2.15%) of 93 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0215 Merit per old post).
  • Received 429 Merit (99.53%) for 162 (9.92%) of 1632 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2628 Merit per new post).
  • Received 0 Merit for posts that are now deleted.


perfect thanks a lot Smiley

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