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October 23, 2018, 03:19:42 PM
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@Vod what does "profile has been autobanned" mean?
Autobanned from bpip?
Autobanned from sending you PM?
German word for highway Huh
It just means that the account was banned on the forum.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

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October 23, 2018, 03:30:38 PM
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The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ?

No lol
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October 23, 2018, 03:37:00 PM
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@Vod what does "profile has been autobanned" mean?
Autobanned from bpip?
Autobanned from sending you PM?
German word for highway Huh
It just means that the account was banned on the forum.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
Oh, that wasn't a question Tongue

Alt account has been banned because of plagiarism: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5048642.0 which means they are evading ban at the moment(obviously  Roll Eyes)

I have questions for OP:

Why are you evading ban with alt account? Why have you sent merit to alt account? Why are you cheating bounties? Why spamming forum with meaningless zero value posts? Why did you try to sell something pretending it is collateral?

The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ?

No lol
Oh, another honest person who lost his account duo loan default and tried to reclaim it.

This thread is full of honest people.  Cheesy

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October 23, 2018, 03:47:01 PM
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The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ?

No lol
Oh, another honest person who lost his account duo loan default and tried to reclaim it.

This thread is full of honest people.  Cheesy
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October 23, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
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German word for highway Huh

I guess you confuse this with Autobahn Cheesy

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October 23, 2018, 05:16:51 PM
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Unfortunately this shotgun type approach to leaving negative feedback is just designed to enhance the social status of the leaver by making it appear they are doing more, at the expense of simply uninformed users making simple mistakes. It happens constantly. The real problem is scammers will come back with a bought account in 30 seconds, people who made an honest mistake will just not return, leading to an increasingly scammer saturated environment.

These specific circumstances could go either way, I could see this just being an honest mistake. Often these higher ranking users have no respect for the time invested in creating a reputation and will default on destroying it rather than erring on the side of caution. After all to keep track of the user is an actual investment of time. Shotgunning negatives to make yourself look good is easy.

Well said.  I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that), so long as there is less competition for their nefarious activities (fake ICOs, signature campaigns full of their alts, etc.) and they can pretend they're being helpful.

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October 23, 2018, 05:51:48 PM
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In my opinion, they are not mafia. But even if they are mafia I don't mind at all. Ever heard of the Japanese Yakuza patrolling and helping people from disasters? The community needs some degree of order to function. As long as they benefiting the community by tagging scammers and abusers, why you complain? We don't have the official police anyway (and usually the official body will abuse you more).

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October 23, 2018, 06:07:47 PM
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I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that), so long as there is less competition for their nefarious activities (fake ICOs, signature campaigns full of their alts, etc.) and they can pretend they're being helpful.
And I would say it's even easier to criticize members who are actually doing something about the scamming and spamming that's rampant on the forum--a forum where scamming and account sales aren't even disallowed, I might add. 

I'm sure you weren't referring to me in the part I've bolded above, since I have nothing to do with ICOs and don't have alts in campaigns.  It'd be nice if you would actually accuse whoever it is you're talking about by name instead of being nebulous. 

Some of us actually are trying to help the forum.  None of what I do is a perfect solution, but if you've got a better one you should put your money where your mouth is and share it with the community.  Some potential customers for you and TECSHARE might get scared away, but that amount is trivial compared to how many spammers, scammers, and shitbags join bitcointalk daily. 

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October 23, 2018, 06:48:24 PM
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I could see this just being an honest mistake.
I completely agree with you. This really IS honest mistake.
TECSHARE clearly has no clue what he is talking about here, thus his input on the matter can be safely ignored. OP is a good case-example of someone on the other end of the scale, opposite of "honest mistake".

As long as they benefiting the community by tagging scammers and abusers, why you complain? We don't have the official police anyway (and usually the official body will abuse you more).
You actually need (certain) strong incentives unless you want inactive, semi-useless DT members (which most nowadays are). However, some people are more than satisfied with investing countless, thankless hours just for the common good (you can easily figure out who some of these are; hint: read title). Truly bad people, those which are rotten to their core (as is the case of OP) would rather have nobody benefit from anything (and let a countless number of people get hurt along the way) if they can't be on the benefiting end of the scale.


German word for highway Huh
I guess you confuse this with Autobahn Cheesy
Yes, OP got confused and lost somewhere on the Autobahn. Grin

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October 23, 2018, 07:03:57 PM
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Yes, OP got confused and lost somewhere on the Autobahn. Grin

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October 23, 2018, 07:10:41 PM
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I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that)

And I would say it's even easier to criticize members who are actually doing something about the scamming and spamming that's rampant on the forum--a forum where scamming and account sales aren't even disallowed, I might add.  

I'm sure you weren't referring to me in the part I've bolded above, since I have nothing to do with ICOs and don't have alts in campaigns.  It'd be nice if you would actually accuse whoever it is you're talking about by name instead of being nebulous.  

Some of us actually are trying to help the forum.  None of what I do is a perfect solution, but if you've got a better one you should put your money where your mouth is and share it with the community.  Some potential customers for you and TECSHARE might get scared away, but that amount is trivial compared to how many spammers, scammers, and shitbags join bitcointalk daily.  

I literally said in the quoted post it wasn’t about you. Is helping the forum only what you think is the best way to police others?

You are now making the OP’s argument as anyone who shares a differing opinion is regarded as clueless. That wasn’t my intent and I apologize. I’ll politely leave the discussion now as I don’t want to have someone continue to insinuate I haven’t done massive amounts of good for this forum and it’s members over the last 7 years and continue to do so. Pretty typical that anyone who supports users who speak out against injustice is made a target to switch the focus through a bully fest in an attempt to find a reason to discredit that person.  I don't feel like playing today guys.  I'm sorry.

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October 23, 2018, 07:23:45 PM
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I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that)

And I would say it's even easier to criticize members who are actually doing something about the scamming and spamming that's rampant on the forum--a forum where scamming and account sales aren't even disallowed, I might add.  

I'm sure you weren't referring to me in the part I've bolded above, since I have nothing to do with ICOs and don't have alts in campaigns.  It'd be nice if you would actually accuse whoever it is you're talking about by name instead of being nebulous.  

Some of us actually are trying to help the forum.  None of what I do is a perfect solution, but if you've got a better one you should put your money where your mouth is and share it with the community.  Some potential customers for you and TECSHARE might get scared away, but that amount is trivial compared to how many spammers, scammers, and shitbags join bitcointalk daily.  

I literally said in the quoted post it wasn’t about you. Is helping the forum only what you think is the best way to police others?

You are now making the OP’s argument as anyone who shares a differing opinion is regarded as clueless. That wasn’t my intent and I apologize. I’ll politely leave the discussion now as I don’t want to have someone continue to insinuate I haven’t done massive amounts of good for this forum and it’s members over the last 7 years and continue to do so.

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so long as there is less competition for their nefarious activities (fake ICOs, signature campaigns full of their alts, etc.) and they can pretend they're being helpful.
I am interested in bold part. It sounds like some DT member(I suppose this thread is about DT members) is running fake ICO and/or signature campaign for fake ICO and it is full of alt accounts of particular member.

Which member is tagging people because of competition and at the same time is running or participating in signature campaign which is full of their alt accounts?

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October 23, 2018, 11:01:08 PM
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I could see this just being an honest mistake.
I completely agree with you. This really IS honest mistake.

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Wait...another honest mistake:

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Ether Adress: 0xB736C103FB759c310A184e1ab05b010B20420c38

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I wonder what AUTOBAN is. Bpip is confusing me.

@Vod what does "profile has been autobanned" mean?
Autobanned from bpip?
Autobanned from sending you PM?
German word for highway Huh
I tried to help m'y local Friend to get some money je sais un Bad situation that corpice mybe just coppied m'y auth cuz hé post another link

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You talk about Me spamming arent you spamming this thread ? Cuz u are talking out of this thread goal

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October 23, 2018, 11:51:12 PM
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I could see this just being an honest mistake.
I completely agree with you. This really IS honest mistake.


I tried to help m'y local Friend to get some money je sais un Bad situation that corpice mybe just coppied m'y auth cuz hé post another link

I see , you have so many friend to help. you are such a nice guy helping each of your friend. I think your friends are also good guy but forum moderator  decided to ban them to show that they have power.
I think forum is very unfair to the nice guys like you and your friends. I will suggest you to leave the forum to protect your self-esteem.

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October 24, 2018, 05:05:55 AM
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I tried to help m'y local Friend to get some money je sais un Bad situation that corpice mybe just coppied m'y auth cuz hé post another link
Okay, that's it. marlboroza remove your rating. I was wrong, and so were you. OP is clearly innocent. Roll Eyes Gotta love the hilarious (&& pathetic) leftist victim card.

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October 24, 2018, 05:57:49 AM
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Unfortunately this shotgun type approach to leaving negative feedback is just designed to enhance the social status of the leaver by making it appear they are doing more, at the expense of simply uninformed users making simple mistakes. It happens constantly. The real problem is scammers will come back with a bought account in 30 seconds, people who made an honest mistake will just not return, leading to an increasingly scammer saturated environment.

These specific circumstances could go either way, I could see this just being an honest mistake. Often these higher ranking users have no respect for the time invested in creating a reputation and will default on destroying it rather than erring on the side of caution. After all to keep track of the user is an actual investment of time. Shotgunning negatives to make yourself look good is easy.

Well said.  I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that), so long as there is less competition for their nefarious activities (fake ICOs, signature campaigns full of their alts, etc.) and they can pretend they're being helpful.
A select few people in power around here seem to be very power hungry.

Further, many on both Blazed's and hilariousandco's trust lists have little to no trading experience (yet interestingly have a decent amounts of trust ratings Roll Eyes ), and as such, they reasonably do not have any real incentives to maintain a marketplace with accurate trust ratings, nor do they have the experience necessary to distinguish between someone "not knowing any better" not to do something shady, and someone who is likely to be an actual scammer (someone who will actively attempt to steal money from others, or otherwise fraudulently obtain money from others). Also, these people have little to lose in their own business when they go around giving out unjust trust ratings.

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A select few people in power around here seem to be very power hungry.

I think there's very few people who craved more power here than you and you tried to get a lot of it as quickly as you could. My only wonder is if you tried to do this for nefarious/scammy reasons and/or for purely monetary gain or not. You tried your best to get numerous positions of power here starting with default trust and then escrowing and you were even gunning for a staff position, one which you probably would have got eventually. People seem to love the default trust system here and look to achieve it and once they're on it and they have that 'power' it's great for them, but then as soon as they're removed or fall foul of it it's suddenly the worst system in the world and full of tyrants and abusers. I don't doubt that there's some people here who get off on leaving feedback, but I think the vast majority of people are just doing what they think is right and trying to protect other users, but one thing I do know is it's more hassle than it's worth and you get little in return from it and as I just said:

Honestly, sometimes I think we should just get rid of the trust system and just let users leave feedback that doesn't effect a score, but of course this would really only benefit scammers who would then have a field day without their red paint, but maybe we should just let people be reckless with their own money. Whatever we do to try curb abuse people will just abuse that or find a way to game it so there's nothing we can really do to please everyone.

Further, many on both Blazed's and hilariousandco's trust lists have little to no trading experience (yet interestingly have a decent amounts of trust ratings Roll Eyes ),

I don't usually look for people who have lots of trading experience, but for people who can leave what I believe to be accurate ratings. I have done very little actual trading here in the grand scheme of things, and was put on DT initially by BadBear probably for my ratings on scammers which he must have thought were accurate enough. At the time of that I'd probably only engaged in one or two actual trades here other than earnings from signature campaigns etc. 


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October 24, 2018, 10:26:00 AM
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You talk about Me spamming arent you spamming this thread ? Cuz u are talking out of this thread goal
What is goal of this thread?
Is it:

a) DT members are mafia and criminals?
b) DT members are trying to control bitcointalk?
c) I received negative because I have tried to take loan with collateral I was trying to sell?
d) The Pharmacist, actmyname, Vod.. didn't tag all scammers on this forum?

What do you really want to accomplish with this topic? To get rid of negative trust, showing that you have changed and this was really honest mistake and at the same time you are accusing DT members of being criminals and taking bribe to "close their eyes":

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October 24, 2018, 10:34:03 AM
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I don't usually look for people who have lots of trading experience, but for people who can leave what I believe to be accurate ratings. I have done very little actual trading here in the grand scheme of things, and was put on DT initially by BadBear probably for my ratings on scammers which he must have thought were accurate enough. At the time of that I'd probably only engaged in one or two actual trades here other than earnings from signature campaigns etc. 

This is kind of at the essence of the problem, the people the rating system effects the most, traders, are pushed to the side and lots of political games are played to the point it becomes less useful for those that need and use it the most. IMO there needs to be a requirement of some kind of material loss that can be documented to leave valid ratings. Either this or some other form of feedback that is purely for anything OTHER THAN trade.

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