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October 24, 2018, 11:24:22 AM
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Hi guys,
In the last 4 months i noted that a lot of people are creating many accounts (fake accounts) to participate in the bounties as multi accounts per user and as we all know that one of the main rules for every bounty is to use only one accounts per user.

Cheaters are greedy and harmful
Cheaters are not greedy they are so greedy, in the beginning they starting with two or three fake accounts then after a while they became having many fake accounts per one user.
They are not only so greedy but also harming, because after a while they starting to harm other bounty hunters, as an example for the reddit campaign they are using their fake accounts to downvotes the other hunters in order to decrease their stakes which logically will go to them because they are using their fake accounts to get a lot of upvotes.
Another example is for the blog/article campaign, the campaign that are beeing attacked by a lot of cheaters in the last months, they are using fake bitcointalks accounts to steal hunters' articles and adding their wallets.

These cheaters are destroying the system, they collecting a lot of tokens for each project and then sell them immediately when the project hit the exchange causing a dump in the price which also causes another loss for the investors.

I had saw a lot of cheaters and i know a lot of fake accounts on twitter, facebook, reddit, medium and bitcointalk accounts. i have a big list of cheaters but then what? every time i report tens of them i see hundreds coming and if i continued doing that i'm losing a lot of time hunting them, we need a creative solution to stop the cheaters, we want a clear and perfect system to stop and prevent them from the beginning..

Why i'm writting this topic?
my purpose from this topic is to discuss with you guys how can we stop the cheaters, i hope everyone can share here his visoin on how to stop them and after that we'll clarify and filter all the replies to get the basic rules that can be used by the bounties' managers to prevent the cheaters from being exist.
Also what is your opinion for sharing here all the cheaters accounts so they'll we known by us, so everyone can reports them to the bounties' managers for the bounties that we are participating in.



Cheaters is educated people with low asset, they only need big reward from bounty program with easy way. They will kill the system soon as possible and create bad image about bounty hunter, not good but stop them it look's impossible. We need better device and technology to track them and of course big money will involved. Let's bounty manager decides and handle this problem, we can't do nothing.

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October 24, 2018, 11:39:37 AM
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by first educating yourself and second by giving that knowledge away to others and educating them.

if you hang around for a while you will gain enough experience you find out all the scumbag ways that people use to cheat others. and the only thing you need to do is to inform others, even if they don't listen.

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October 24, 2018, 11:45:30 AM
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Those components are very much present in this market. But that is life, they need to work harder to make more money. But in terms of efficiency, more and more people involved in a campaign will make the ICO project better. I only really hate spammers, who do not take the job seriously!
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October 24, 2018, 11:52:37 AM
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As I can see , forum administration intending to fight cheaters by tightening bounty campaign rules. For example : you can no longer participate in any campaign being a newbie. You have to be at least a Jr.member to participate , this is not so easy to do now because you need to prove your competence on the forum and get at least 1 merit to become elighible to participate in bounty campaigns. I think these changes will positively affect the number of cheaters , let's just wait and see how effective these changes will be.
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October 24, 2018, 11:53:03 AM
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Yes, I completely agree with you, moreover, many bounty managers abuse their power and blur the reward on their fake accounts, I wrote about them repeatedly, they harm and cutting the wood on which they sit. Such a system will not work with time because of such an appeal to it. For example, I no longer write anything about new projects in my blog. The only thing I do is wear a signature and a few tweets from bountyhive.

You yourself can see how many projects are now collected here for example, look at Enkidu, they have not collected anything, because they have a bounty Manager, does whatever he wants and has been seen in bad things.

There are a bunch of tools that allow you to weed out a significant portion of fake accounts and pay a reward to those who really benefit from their work, helping to promote the project. Not some faggot grab onto.
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October 25, 2018, 11:50:23 AM
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Hi guys,
In the last 4 months i noted that a lot of people are creating many accounts (fake accounts) to participate in the bounties as multi accounts per user and as we all know that one of the main rules for every bounty is to use only one accounts per user.

Cheaters are greedy and harmful
Cheaters are not greedy they are so greedy, in the beginning they starting with two or three fake accounts then after a while they became having many fake accounts per one user.
They are not only so greedy but also harming, because after a while they starting to harm other bounty hunters, as an example for the reddit campaign they are using their fake accounts to downvotes the other hunters in order to decrease their stakes which logically will go to them because they are using their fake accounts to get a lot of upvotes.
Another example is for the blog/article campaign, the campaign that are beeing attacked by a lot of cheaters in the last months, they are using fake bitcointalks accounts to steal hunters' articles and adding their wallets.

These cheaters are destroying the system, they collecting a lot of tokens for each project and then sell them immediately when the project hit the exchange causing a dump in the price which also causes another loss for the investors.

I had saw a lot of cheaters and i know a lot of fake accounts on twitter, facebook, reddit, medium and bitcointalk accounts. i have a big list of cheaters but then what? every time i report tens of them i see hundreds coming and if i continued doing that i'm losing a lot of time hunting them, we need a creative solution to stop the cheaters, we want a clear and perfect system to stop and prevent them from the beginning..

Why i'm writting this topic?
my purpose from this topic is to discuss with you guys how can we stop the cheaters, i hope everyone can share here his visoin on how to stop them and after that we'll clarify and filter all the replies to get the basic rules that can be used by the bounties' managers to prevent the cheaters from being exist.
Also what is your opinion for sharing here all the cheaters accounts so they'll we known by us, so everyone can reports them to the bounties' managers for the bounties that we are participating in.
Cheaters are always going to be part of every system as well as fraudulent activities. Even in the real life, banks themselves are involved in fraudulent activities just like some few banks recently involved in one with JPMorgan and the likes of Citibank being involved. The thing here is, as an individual, what are you doing on your own to be able to not get caught up in all of these.

This is where knowledge comes in. If you have no knowledge, you can never find it easy to even identify anything at all when it comes to scams. Cheaters are not the only ones damaging the system, gullible investors are too.
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October 25, 2018, 11:53:16 AM
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Over time, you begin to distinguish cheaters. fake projects aimed at pumping funds and draining into the pipe

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October 26, 2018, 06:53:41 PM
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Do not panic, in the first  you can always participate in companies with kyc, however, the moderators do not sit still, I'm sure after the latest updates on the site has become much less such users

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October 26, 2018, 08:57:00 PM
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I think that you are right and it is worth fighting with scammers, but now in addition to multiaccounts it has become fashionable to buy bots that will write for you any comment or make a repost.

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October 26, 2018, 09:18:26 PM
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Honestly, I think cheaters are stopping themselves.

Bounty hunting has grown so out of control that there is now was more supply than demand.
Basically, it just is flat out not profitable and can not be sustained.
When you have lots of people becoming bounty hunters, and each bounty hunter doing multiple accounts, it will come crashing down.
As people start to realize that bounty hunting is not profitable anymore. it will start to balance out.

Of course, for us that have done bounty hunting and made profit before, it totally sucks.
I have seen so many good projects absolutely destroyed by scammers.
They actually bring bad press to the project and then go and crash the value of the very token they were promoting.
So for now, I think it just needs to run it's course.

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