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October 25, 2018, 10:38:53 AM
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Oh please do keep pretending this is not a RESIST™ branded Hollywood production.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-25/suspicious-package-found-outside-nyc-home-actor-robert-de-niro

This is their calling card. Their hubris reeks and covers every thing they do. They never know when enough is enough and insist on jumping the shark over and over.
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October 25, 2018, 11:54:24 AM
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Until people realize the left is the right.

Until people realize the right is the left.

There is no hope for us all.

Republican vs Democrat is a silly game that rich people play to keep us fighting against each other instead of fighting them

There is a reason they keep it pretty close to 50%/50% for 200+ years... it is not an accident that the control keeps swapping back and forth between parties every 8 years... this is all by design

If one party was truly better than the other, we wouldn't have such a 50/50 split... they both try to be evil enough that they only get 50% of the vote

More people hate the other party more than they like their own... everyone knows their own party lies to them (unless they are completely ignorant)... it is never a choice between the best person for the job... it is always a choice between the lesser of two evils... because both parties always nominate someone evil
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October 25, 2018, 12:37:12 PM
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I would say shame on those in this thread who are attempting to politicize this act of terrorism.  

You should tell that to your pussy grabbing megalomaniac who doubled down on his attack on the media today on twitter.

Why did you only quote the shameful politicizing by those of us on the left?  I guess calling it a false flag isn't politicizing it because it helps Trump, LOL fucking hypocrite.

Even Trump had the self-awareness to not go full retard before all facts are known.

Well that lasted only a few hours LOL, Trump is back and blaming this now on the media!
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October 25, 2018, 12:42:45 PM
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Trump was right to quickly condemn this act of terrorism, and he was right to describe this as an attack on our democracy. This type of behavior has no place in our society.

I can't say if this is a "false flag" or not, however it is very shameful for those on the left to claim this is somehow Trumps fault, when it has been many on the left actively advocating for what can reasonably be described as acts of violence on the right.

"Enemy of the people" ring a bell? "Anybody that can do a body-slam is my guy"?

Trump stokes violence because it plays well with his base and supports his "tough guy" image. A few nice words later he was still attacking the media at his rally in Wisconsin last night.
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Trump was right to quickly condemn this act of terrorism, and he was right to describe this as an attack on our democracy. This type of behavior has no place in our society.

I can't say if this is a "false flag" or not, however it is very shameful for those on the left to claim this is somehow Trumps fault, when it has been many on the left actively advocating for what can reasonably be described as acts of violence on the right.

"Enemy of the people" ring a bell? "Anybody that can do a body-slam is my guy"?

Trump stokes violence because it plays well with his base and supports his "tough guy" image. A few nice words later he was still attacking the media at his rally in Wisconsin last night.


Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence, I don't want to spam up the thread with a huge list of examples. Hey you are concluding this MUST be some one on the right attacking the left, suddenly people who disagree with you can not make similar conclusions?

Conservatives have been biting their lips and not reacting to violence from the left for a LONG time, because they, unlike the left, really understand what results from solving political issues with violence. They would rather be repeatedly attacked than start a violent civil war.

For you to suggest that Trumps QUITE REASONABLE criticism of the press is equivalent to calling for violence is juvenile. You know who has been calling for violence over and over though? The Democrats and the left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzBEeVOw4q0

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I didn't dismiss it, I said it was done for an ulterior motive, likely not even by their enemies. Also, as I said the conclusion they were actually explosive devices has not been stated by the FBI or ATF, only that they "appeared to be." As I explained the standard procedure is to blow the device in place, so chances are we will never know for sure. It could have simply been a box off unassembled components of a bomb, no one would ever be able to tell the difference after it is detonated with added explosives used to deactivate it.

When a bunch of Republicans got sent ricin a few weeks back you didn't see me here blaming Democrats over it. Also everyone knows now days these high profile people are like the 10th person to check out their mail. There was never any risk to any of them. This is exactly the kind of Hail Mary move they would make out of desperation. They constantly must fill the role of victim to sell their narrative. Also exactly the kind of movie script people who live in TV land would suck up and ask for more. In reality, things almost never have such a clear narrative.

Also all of these people are complicit in very serious federal crimes, and they know prosecution is on the way. What better way to elicit sympathy than looking like they are under physical attack as they literally call for incivility themselves, and support the mass invasion of our country. This was very carefully timed, it was not a coincidence.

Ask some simple questions like any investigator...

Who benefits from this?
Who has the ability and means to pull this off?
What does this accomplish?
What possible motivations could be behind this?
Why is the timing so close to midterm elections?
Who has traditionally occupied the rhetoric of victimization?
What could this serve to distract from?

Totally agree with this. I just don't know how none of these bombs actually succeeded in killing their targets. It seems like something that was so idiotic that it couldn't have been done by someone who ACTUALLY wanted to do the job.

I'm not going to say that this was done internally, nor was it done by Republicans.

For god sake folks, this could have been done by the Russians to try to strike fear and divide in the country. It seems like they're succeeding. As you have the right calling this an inside job and you have Democrats (like flying hellfish) saying that the entire Republican party supports this.

We're better than this folks, come on. If this is them (or someone else trying to divide the country) they're doing a good job.




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October 25, 2018, 02:11:06 PM
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I just don't know how none of these bombs actually succeeded in killing their targets.

Rich people don't open their own mail, it's that simple

High profile people like Obama and the Clintons probably get hundreds if not thousands of letters every day... a lot of it will be hate mail and death threats... they don't open any of that themselves, who has the time?  They have plenty of money to hire someone to open their mail, read it, and tell them if anything is worth looking at.

Kings have always employed food tasters to check for poison in their dinner before eating.  This is no different

For god sake folks, this could have been done by the Russians to try to strike fear and divide in the country. It seems like they're succeeding. As you have the right calling this an inside job and you have Democrats (like flying hellfish) saying that the entire Republican party supports this.

We're better than this folks, come on. If this is them (or someone else trying to divide the country) they're doing a good job.

I'll admit the timing is suspicious.  It is an October Surprise.  Realistically it could be anyone... to quote myself from earlier, "Republican vs Democrat is a silly game that rich people play to keep us fighting against each other instead of fighting them"
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October 25, 2018, 03:24:47 PM
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I would say shame on those in this thread who are attempting to politicize this act of terrorism.

I agree, and I am ashamed of myself for jumping into the politicization of this event.  It is terrorism, and there's no other way to describe it.  Even if the bombs turn out to be fakes, the intent was obviously to intimidate.  Regardless of the perpetrator's political motives, this is terrorism and we should all be condemning it.

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October 25, 2018, 03:27:39 PM
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Former CIA director John Brennan essentially blames Trump for the mailing of the bombs. It is statements like this that remove the credibility of the condemnations of this act of terror.

His employer should absolutely immediately fire Brennan for this, especially considering that he is not in any actual danger from these packages, it is the employees of the mailroom who these packages are most likely to hurt.
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October 25, 2018, 03:34:38 PM
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I would say shame on those in this thread who are attempting to politicize this act of terrorism.

I agree, and I am ashamed of myself for jumping into the politicization of this event.  It is terrorism, and there's no other way to describe it.  Even if the bombs turn out to be fakes, the intent was obviously to intimidate.  Regardless of the perpetrator's political motives, this is terrorism and we should all be condemning it.

Quickseller really has no business shaming anyone frankly. You see you have the good sense to moderate yourself. This is some thing I am not seeing a lot of on the left. Coming to a conclusion based on motives is not unreasonable or equivalent to "politicizing" it. We all condemn the behavior no matter what narrative it was, but it is not yet obvious what the intent truly was.

Now public figures on the other hand, I agree completely. They have a larger voice and people respond to their words. The idea you should mute yourself while these talking heads and politicians go wild is asinine.
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Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence, I don't want to spam up the thread with a huge list of examples. Hey you are concluding this MUST be some one on the right attacking the left, suddenly people who disagree with you can not make similar conclusions?

You can unbunch your panties. Make any conclusions you want and I'll laugh at them any chance I get, as I would with anyone who pretends to have "opinions" and "conclusions" and rejects basic facts.

For you to suggest that Trumps QUITE REASONABLE criticism of the press is equivalent to calling for violence is juvenile. You know who has been calling for violence over and over though? The Democrats and the left.

"Enemy of the people" is not reasonable criticism. Look at how media is treated by Trump rally participants if you're in any doubt as to what's going on here.
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People were put in danger and a lot are dismissing it just because they do not like those people. It's disgusting.
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I heard 9 pipe bombs was sent to different addresses all DEMS     I find it was funny the fact no stamps on parcels to trace back to sender Roll Eyes ..
But the dems didn't think they said some was sent by courier  OK so how did this terrorist send them by courier? ..

If you send by courier they still need to be signed for and the persons needs to go to a post office of some sort ..
You cannot flag a courier down and pull it up at the side of the road and say POST THIS..

Go and try and pull over a courier van and say post this at such and such address with printed stamps on the parcels  Wink Roll Eyes Cheesy..

The news said the stamps that you see on the parcels was printed and then a courier service delivered them  HOW ?..
Even if the courier service never noticed they must have cameras in the building of the courier service?..

I have never ever known a courier service to post something unless it come from the office..So where is the terrorist on camera asking the courier service to deliver this parcel
and also the terrorist must of paid some how..?  so where is the terrorist receipt for the use of the couriers service delivery ..

You cannot pull a courier service van over and ask for a parcel to be sent  you must go to a office of some sort to pay for the delivery..

Now if the FBI CIA CRONIES  who are a total gangsters crew  should of easy find out by now..

The USA     FBI  CIA   are scum of the earth RATS  not the little guys in the FBI or CIA  the top of the tree needs cutting down to size..
As in STOP  using people for your own gains   YOU BUMS..

It wouldn't surprise me if the FBI set some poor fucker up..  WE GOT HIM    yeah right Cheesy..

Lets just say  YOUR secret services in the USA  are SCUM BAGS   rats..  the top brass send the small CIA dudes to do their dirty work so they benefit  not the little CIA dude but the top ASS HOLE   RATS   who clinton obama and the likes have in their pockets ..

dON'T GET ME WRONG I COULD BE WRONG 1% WRONG ..I know i am right and so do most of the planet KNOW what RATS  you political elite are like..

The funny thing is the internet  MADE US SEE THE LIGHT Grin Cheesy...I bet the politicians HATE THE INTERNET Cheesy Cheesy...I FUCKING LOVE IT..
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Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence....

You can unbunch your panties. Make any conclusions you want and I'll laugh at them....

Laughing and ridiculing these events is way, way improper.
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October 25, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
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Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence....

You can unbunch your panties. Make any conclusions you want and I'll laugh at them....

Laughing and ridiculing these events is way, way improper.

Reading matters. I'm laughing at Tecshare's "conclusions" (more like conspiracy theories) as well as the ridiculous assertion that I'm somehow trying to prevent said "conclusions" from being made.

Bolding random shit and cutting posts up to make it seem like I said something I didn't is indeed improper, and I'll ridicule that too. I hope that's ok with you but I don't really give a shit if it isn't.
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Right wing extremism is a scary thing.

I'm pretty sure the person or people that are mailing these bombs through the mail are mentally ill in at least some way. There's no way that a mentally competent person would think this was a good idea in anyway, shape, or form.

As a democratic supporter, I feel as though I could be next personally, if a certain individual really wanted it so.

Unlike these victims, I don't have a security detail. They're obviously getting a basic hit-list from some place. So far, there's been wild accusations that it's some left-wing person targeting their own people as some false-flag operation. "Hey guys, I'm going to risk my freedom by spreading fear through bombs in the mail to well guarded people". That's some nutbag crazy conspiracy tbh. Eventually, the perpetrator will be caught. There's plenty of lessons of that. What person in their right mind would even think to do something.

Now, onto the actual perpetrator. The hit-list comes from Trump himself, as so far, only the individuals targeted have criticized them. The victims are all registered democrat voter, as far as I'm aware. There were political and cultural people victims.

A few questions; was this a state-sanctioned act? is America under attack?

Sadly, without evidence, we can't even rule this out. It's obviously an internal attack, and I'm sure our borders are safe. I don't feel as though it'd be a nation-state level of events, even though Putin does hate some of these individuals (including Clinton).

The only supporting evidence this is foreign to me, is they fucked up the envelope. That could have just been a way to bypass security, however it was off. Even that seems a bit far-fetched, at least to me.

So, assuming the attack in internal, what can we leverage from the information we have. Let's look at the consumption of media by the individual.

I don't really follow right wing extremist (eg. Alex Jones) but I know of it. I know there was calling of violence, anger, hate, pretty much everything that breeds political incitement. I caught some AM radio news and holy hell, the way people talk about stuff. It's absolutely mindnumbing. The amount of mental gymnastics people make. Paint Obama as the devil for years, but then say "don't criticize the president, it's unamerican". Anyway, back to my point, the right. I'm assuming these people are mentioned frequently in right wing media. I'd imagine they need some sort of mental scapegoat for problems they're facing.

The targets are democrats that haven't been mentioned in months by moderate left media. Also, as a moderate left member of democrats, I feel some disdain towards the DNC for failing at security procedures and Clinton especially for being in bed with the lobbist. But Biden aint done nothing wrong, nor has any of the other individuals listed. To be honest, if we never find out who the perpetrator is, and all these individuals run for office, I'll put on my tin hat and call this whole mess a left-wing conspiracy. However, I don't forsee Clinton trying another run at Trump. I don't see De Niro going for it either.

I'm not sure about the moderate left or right to be honest. I think they're mostly keeping their heads down and staying out of it. I'd like to rule those people out.

Now, looking at the evidence, we can probably assume the individual was a right-wing extremist with mental issues.

Mental issues stem from a variety of problems, such as poverty and drug addiction, other are more natural. America does have a drug problem, too much black market, not enough regulation. Legalization of weed is coming along as progress in a few states, but myth and heroin has been taking this nation by storm. Rural towns are meth'd up, cities are heroin'd down from my perspective. I think it was probably someone myth'd up, to be honest. It seems as though someone listening to AM radio while doing some meth (and I bet you there are hundreds across America doing this now, in our land of 330 million (with only 300 million free currently [rofl 10% incarceration]) could be reasonable of suspicion of committing a crime or two. I mean, smoking, injecting... consuming meth is against the law, as far as I'm aware. But the larger issue is they're sending bombs through the mail.

A meth-head with a stolen laptop searches internet bomb and prints off a couple labels, drops them off at random sections, and them damned evil doers will be dead.

If the individual's a gaming man:
I'd bet he'd gamble on the next target. De Niro being the odd ball no one picked or some bullshit. I'm not sure, I don't gamble, but goddamned, cheating the system Wink

Anyway, until the FBI releases more details, I'm making the assumption it's some rural meth addicted right wing extremist executing his wild aggressive fantasies without regard to reality.

My assumption could be wrong pretty quickly if all of a sudden political allies to Trump were targeted next, not individuals that he has attacked.

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October 25, 2018, 09:24:34 PM
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Pretty sure the person or people that are mailing these bombs through the mail are mentally ill in at least some way. There's no way that a mentally competent person would think this was a good idea in anyway, shape, or form.

Mentally ill < Yes i bet hillary is mentally ill after losing to TRUMPS Cheesy..
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October 26, 2018, 03:48:07 AM
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I just don't know how none of these bombs actually succeeded in killing their targets.

Rich people don't open their own mail, it's that simple

High profile people like Obama and the Clintons probably get hundreds if not thousands of letters every day... a lot of it will be hate mail and death threats... they don't open any of that themselves, who has the time?  They have plenty of money to hire someone to open their mail, read it, and tell them if anything is worth looking at.

Kings have always employed food tasters to check for poison in their dinner before eating.  This is no different

For god sake folks, this could have been done by the Russians to try to strike fear and divide in the country. It seems like they're succeeding. As you have the right calling this an inside job and you have Democrats (like flying hellfish) saying that the entire Republican party supports this.

We're better than this folks, come on. If this is them (or someone else trying to divide the country) they're doing a good job.

I'll admit the timing is suspicious.  It is an October Surprise.  Realistically it could be anyone... to quote myself from earlier, "Republican vs Democrat is a silly game that rich people play to keep us fighting against each other instead of fighting them"

I didn't even know there was a term for this sort of news, thanks for that by the way!.

But yes, I do fully understand the whole rich people don't open their mail thing. You would just think whoever was sending this, if they were ACTUALLY TRYING TO SUCCEED, would do their research into that and it would foil their plan in their head. This person is either incompetent/dumb, or this was planned to create chaos. Who knows which one though.




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I didn't even know there was a term for this sort of news, thanks for that by the way!.

But yes, I do fully understand the whole rich people don't open their mail thing. You would just think whoever was sending this, if they were ACTUALLY TRYING TO SUCCEED, would do their research into that and it would foil their plan in their head. This person is either incompetent/dumb, or this was planned to create chaos. Who knows which one though.

There is no shortage of right-wing nut jobs who listen to people like Alex Jones, then shoot up a pizza shop because they think it is a secret child sex slave shop run by Hillary Clinton herself... seriously, this happened
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory#Comet_Ping_Pong_shooting

Another right-winger ran into a bunch of protesters, killing 1 girl... after he watched a clip on Fox News promoting running over protesters with your car like the Muslims were doing
https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/15/media/daily-caller-fox-news-video-car-crashing-liberal-protesters/index.html

There have also been 42 abortion clinic bombings since 1977, so right-wingers are not new to bombs:

Since 1977 there have been eight murders, 17 attempted murders, 42 bombings, and 186 arsons targeted at abortion clinics and providers across the United States

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Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence, I don't want to spam up the thread with a huge list of examples. Hey you are concluding this MUST be some one on the right attacking the left, suddenly people who disagree with you can not make similar conclusions?

You can unbunch your panties. Make any conclusions you want and I'll laugh at them any chance I get, as I would with anyone who pretends to have "opinions" and "conclusions" and rejects basic facts.

For you to suggest that Trumps QUITE REASONABLE criticism of the press is equivalent to calling for violence is juvenile. You know who has been calling for violence over and over though? The Democrats and the left.

"Enemy of the people" is not reasonable criticism. Look at how media is treated by Trump rally participants if you're in any doubt as to what's going on here.

Please, don't impose your imaginary emotional states upon me. Yeah, laugh it up, because this is a hilarious topic. You know what I am using here that you lack completely? Critical thought. You believe the world is as it presents itself and the TV tells you so, so it must be true. You act like  "conspiracy theories" have never been proven true, and the media doesn't CONSTANTLY lie to us. There is nothing unreasonable about these conclusions.


Regarding your "enemy of the people quote, lets look at what he ACTUALLY said:

 "The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"

"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @CNN, @NBCNews and many more) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American people," he wrote. "SICK!"

LOOK HOW THE MEDIA IS TREATED BY TRUMP? LOL what poor poor victims. They certainly don't deserve this! The media has been totally civil and never calls for violence or makes up lies about Trump. Nope... never.

As you can see he was specifically calling FAKE NEWS the enemy of the people, but of course the media, like with everything, has to take it out of context and sell it as the most extreme angle possible. Thanks for this public demonstration on your inability to even check the source material before making a claim, and just believing what the TV says. Also for the convenient example of what Trump was talking about when he made that statement.




Reading matters. I'm laughing at Tecshare's "conclusions" (more like conspiracy theories) as well as the ridiculous assertion that I'm somehow trying to prevent said "conclusions" from being made...

Again, a hilarious topic for you I am sure. Who said you were trying to prevent anything? As I predicted it is starting to come out that the devices were not even explosive, and this was all a hoax to elicit sympathy for these people.





As a democratic supporter, I feel as though I could be next personally, if a certain individual really wanted it so.

Get over yourself. You aren't important enough for anyone to attack with bombs. You wanna talk about being afraid as an individual? Put on a MAGA hat and walk around LA, Seattle, or NY and tell me how long it takes before you are assaulted.


Unlike these victims, I don't have a security detail. They're obviously getting a basic hit-list from some place.
Oh its obvious is it? Is it even obvious they were intended to actually be targets? Nope, the FBI and ATF will not even say the devices were explosive, only that they "appeared to be explosive". Watch this little detail get glossed over again and again and the story fades to black as people find new pictures of Kim Kardashian's butt.



Now, onto the actual perpetrator. The hit-list comes from Trump himself, as so far, only the individuals targeted have criticized them. The victims are all registered democrat voter, as far as I'm aware. There were political and cultural people victims.

It comes from Trump himself now directly does it? I mean really, what are you doing wasting your time here, you should be working at the FBI with those investigative skills to have figured this out so quickly with zero information related. You don't think it is at all coincidental that these people are largely irrelevant, EXCEPT for the fact that they are a perfect little sample summary of people Trump has criticized?



A few questions; was this a state-sanctioned act? is America under attack?
Sadly, without evidence, we can't even rule this out. It's obviously an internal attack, and I'm sure our borders are safe. I don't feel as though it'd be a nation-state level of events, even though Putin does hate some of these individuals (including Clinton).

Is it really obvious though, or are you just drawing conclusions that fit your narrative and filling in the gaps as you go? Yes, our borders are TOTALLY safe xD right. Now you are making assumptions about who Putin hates (based on nothing but your confirmation bias ofc).


I don't really follow right wing extremist (eg. Alex Jones) but I know of it. I know there was calling of violence, anger, hate, pretty much everything that breeds political incitement.

He never called for violence. This is again just another example of parroting what you see on TV without checking any source material. If you think I am wrong, please do find me an unedited, un-cropped, quote of his calls for violence on video. However I know you can't because it doesn't exist.



The targets are democrats that haven't been mentioned in months by moderate left media....I'm not sure about the moderate left or right to be honest. I think they're mostly keeping their heads down and staying out of it. I'd like to rule those people out.

Yep, quite interesting so much supposed rage would be focused on largely irrelevant people isn't it?


Now, looking at the evidence, we can probably assume the individual was a right-wing extremist with mental issues. A meth-head with a stolen laptop searches internet bomb and prints off a couple labels, drops them off at random sections, and them damned evil doers will be dead.

Oh can you? Can you assume? A meth head trying to build a bomb is only going to have one result, horrible catastrophic failure. If you think it is THAT easy to build mail bombs then you should go back to watching 24 or something.


Anyway, until the FBI releases more details, I'm making the assumption it's some rural meth addicted right wing extremist executing his wild aggressive fantasies without regard to reality. My assumption could be wrong pretty quickly if all of a sudden political allies to Trump were targeted next, not individuals that he has attacked.

Yeah, because this meth head you have in your imaginations, he is smart enough to coordinate a national level organized attack without being immediately caught, but not smart enough to know that these people don't even open their own mail. Yeah. Ok. This is an extremely odd and skilled meth head you have here.





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