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The suspect has been arrested. Try to keep up. Do you have at least an updated conspiracy theory? I see, because it was filmed last night all of his arguments are automatically invalid. Good point.
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October 27, 2018, 02:25:25 AM Last edit: October 27, 2018, 02:43:24 AM by GreenBits |
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend. If this act of terror outrages you, then you probably weren't going to vote for 45 anyway most folks have already picked a side. This is either freaking you the fuck out, or you are absolutely loving this. And the partisanship from all sides just makes everyone double down. This won't fix itself. And going by Breitbart comments, half of the board still thinks this is all a Soros funded false flag. Like the caravan Dammit, when did we get so damned stupid? I cant denounce my fellow countrymen for their beliefs, we are all entitled to them. BUT DAMMIT. WAKE UP.
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October 27, 2018, 04:06:41 AM |
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend.
What about the rhetoric by the likes of Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and others? Sometimes explicitly calling for violence and in others implicitly calling for violence. How do you feel about liberal Mayors ordering police to stand down for political purposes, resulting in danger to many innocent lives? What about either condoning or ignoring violence when it happens? All that is okay, right? The double standard of the left is sickening and removes their credibility. Frankly many on the left with these double standard are outright bad people.
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October 27, 2018, 04:49:22 AM |
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend.
What about the rhetoric by the likes of Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and others? Sometimes explicitly calling for violence and in others implicitly calling for violence. How do you feel about liberal Mayors ordering police to stand down for political purposes, resulting in danger to many innocent lives? What about either condoning or ignoring violence when it happens? All that is okay, right? The double standard of the left is sickening and removes their credibility. Frankly many on the left with these double standard are outright bad people. what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about What about not sending bombs to them and not blaming them for getting bombs in the mail. That would be a good start. If any of those people actually called for violence (tenuous assertion at best) then they deserve to be criticized. Just as Trump deserves to be criticized for his incessant villainization of anyone who doesn't praise him.
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October 27, 2018, 05:14:09 AM |
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend.
What about the rhetoric by the likes of Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and others? Sometimes explicitly calling for violence and in others implicitly calling for violence. How do you feel about liberal Mayors ordering police to stand down for political purposes, resulting in danger to many innocent lives? What about either condoning or ignoring violence when it happens? All that is okay, right? The double standard of the left is sickening and removes their credibility. Frankly many on the left with these double standard are outright bad people. But none of these people are the POTUS. I would hope that the highest office in our country was held to a higher regard. I don't like Trump, but he is the president and I respect the office and consequently the man. Americans should have a role model in the POTUS, as he is the literal representation of our nation on a global stage. Is this behavior acceptable to you, sincerely? And finally, if it's enough to criticize on the other side, why condone the behavior from your own?
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October 27, 2018, 10:15:50 AM Last edit: October 27, 2018, 12:26:34 PM by TECSHARE |
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend.
What about the rhetoric by the likes of Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and others? Sometimes explicitly calling for violence and in others implicitly calling for violence. How do you feel about liberal Mayors ordering police to stand down for political purposes, resulting in danger to many innocent lives? What about either condoning or ignoring violence when it happens? All that is okay, right? The double standard of the left is sickening and removes their credibility. Frankly many on the left with these double standard are outright bad people. what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about what about What about not sending bombs to them and not blaming them for getting bombs in the mail. That would be a good start. If any of those people actually called for violence (tenuous assertion at best) then they deserve to be criticized. Just as Trump deserves to be criticized for his incessant villainization of anyone who doesn't praise him. Tell me, when did Trump call for violence? You talk about rhetoric, but it was all there before Trump got into office, except hes not a pansy and fought back against those attacking him. He didn't foster this environment, it was IMPOSED upon him, and anyone else who supports him in public. Trump supporters have been getting attacked since before 2016, now the left is crying about the hostile environment after two years of nonstop violence against conservatives any time they organize in groups, or even alone. What about Scalise? Rand Paul? ANTIFA? Tell me more about how the left is peaceful and innocent and Trump started this. If the right is responsible for unhinged people on the right then the left has A SHITLOAD of unhinged people being violent over the past 2 years to account for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcmUur019LY
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October 27, 2018, 02:15:28 PM |
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Tell me, when did Trump call for violence?
Let me google that for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=when+did+Trump+call+for+violence%3FAll the Times Trump Has Called for Violence at His Rallieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0Knock the crap out of him I'd like to punch him in the face I woulda been boom boom boom, beat the crap outta him I don't know if I'll do the fighting myself, or if other people will Maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of him I'd like to punch him in the face Try not to hurt him, if you do I'll defend you in court In the good old days this doesn't happen, because they used to treat them very very rough... we've become weak And you know what? The audience swung back, and I thought it was very very appropriate Nobody wants to hurt each other anymore I've instructed my people to look into it (referring to paying the legal fees of of someone who assaulted a protester)
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October 27, 2018, 02:36:36 PM |
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This is ridiculous. Political rhetoric is not likely to die anytime soon, but attempting to link the words of a politician to the acts of a mad man is mad in itself. No body attempted to blame Bernie Sanders for the acts of James Hodgkinson. The media is not helping the situation. They continue to blame the president. A continuation of this hyperbolic rhetoric is likely to incite yet more violence. 613 incidents of Democrats being violent, or calling for violenceVideo archive of Violence Against Trump Supporters
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October 27, 2018, 02:51:55 PM |
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Tell me, when did Trump call for violence?
Cute selectively edited out of context clips, unsourced quotes and a shotgun of search results. Not out of context at all... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgPABV-UJvk
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October 27, 2018, 05:11:58 PM |
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This is ridiculous. Political rhetoric is not likely to die anytime soon, but attempting to link the words of a politician to the acts of a mad man is mad in itself. No body attempted to blame Bernie Sanders for the acts of James Hodgkinson. The media is not helping the situation. They continue to blame the president. A continuation of this hyperbolic rhetoric is likely to incite yet more violence.
Did Bernie say violent things? (not trying to be a smartass here - I'm genuinely not sure, haven't heard the man since ~2016 I think and he was fiery but not violent as I recall) Trump likes to be portrayed as a tough guy. He says a lot of stupid shit that would not be acceptable in a polite company. There is way to escape that, if he's not on traditional media then he's on Twitter making shit up about rapists and terrorists invading the country and he has a list of perceived enemies whom he repeatedly attacks on a personal level. Rhetoric matters a lot when it comes from such a position of power. He could stop at any time if he doesn't like the optics of it. The bar is set very very low for him. Look how everyone media is fawning when he reads a few sentences off a teleprompter. But he doesn't want that.
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October 27, 2018, 05:42:17 PM |
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Did Bernie say violent things? (not trying to be a smartass here - I'm genuinely not sure, haven't heard the man since ~2016 I think and he was fiery but not violent as I recall)
Trump likes to be portrayed as a tough guy. He says a lot of stupid shit that would not be acceptable in a polite company. There is way to escape that, if he's not on traditional media then he's on Twitter making shit up about rapists and terrorists invading the country and he has a list of perceived enemies whom he repeatedly attacks on a personal level. Rhetoric matters a lot when it comes from such a position of power.
He could stop at any time if he doesn't like the optics of it. The bar is set very very low for him. Look how everyone media is fawning when he reads a few sentences off a teleprompter. But he doesn't want that.
In polite company, what are you a Victorian housemaid? People voted for him because he says things that PC culture forbids, things that resonate with the majority of people. Part of that is not kissing everyone's ass. Good leaders aren't fucking pansys, they are often forceful and say things like they are, even if some people might be upset by that reality. What exactly is he making up, please tell me. Your little out of context snippits don't cut it. Trump and his supporters have been nonstop targets since 2016 over and over again by unhinged leftists, Democrats have been openly calling for harassment and incivility, over the course of years... but yep all Trump's fault cause he says things you think are naughty. If you say something to some one and they freak out and physically attack you for it, is it their fault for attacking you or your fault for upsetting them? I would love to hear your answer.
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October 27, 2018, 06:21:48 PM |
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If you say something to some one and they freak out and physically attack you for it, is it their fault for attacking you or your fault for upsetting them? I would love to hear your answer.
You seem to be confused. Trump isn't being attacked physically, he's being rightfully ridiculed for saying stupid shit. If someone attacks him physically or sends a bomb to him that would not be ok.
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October 27, 2018, 09:10:47 PM |
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If you say something to some one and they freak out and physically attack you for it, is it their fault for attacking you or your fault for upsetting them? I would love to hear your answer.
You seem to be confused. Trump isn't being attacked physically, he's being rightfully ridiculed for saying stupid shit. If someone attacks him physically or sends a bomb to him that would not be ok. Trump has made him self an ICON with lots of enemies who just want to see him burn!! but i feel there strategy never seems to get to the man.. sometimes I don't know if to like or dislike trump, I feel the man got is style and not all can love you.
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October 27, 2018, 09:20:17 PM |
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If you say something to some one and they freak out and physically attack you for it, is it their fault for attacking you or your fault for upsetting them? I would love to hear your answer.
You seem to be confused. Trump isn't being attacked physically, he's being rightfully ridiculed for saying stupid shit. If someone attacks him physically or sends a bomb to him that would not be ok. Instead of assuming who is who in this hypothetical, maybe answer the question.
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October 27, 2018, 09:40:54 PM |
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If you say something to some one and they freak out and physically attack you for it, is it their fault for attacking you or your fault for upsetting them? I would love to hear your answer.
You seem to be confused. Trump isn't being attacked physically, he's being rightfully ridiculed for saying stupid shit. If someone attacks him physically or sends a bomb to him that would not be ok. Instead of assuming who is who in this hypothetical, maybe answer the question. I'm not assuming anything. You're the one ranting about Trump being incorrectly faulted. I already answered your stupid question but in case the answer was not good enough for you to twist it into your narrative here is a more generic one: it's not ok to physically attack anyone for any reason.
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October 27, 2018, 09:43:49 PM |
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I already answered your stupid question but in case the answer was not good enough for you to twist it into your narrative here is a more generic one: it's not ok to physically attack anyone for any reason.
And it's entirely okay to call someone out on their bullshit. It's crazy how the right winger's victim complex went wild the other day, thinking they were personally being attacked. or you are absolutely loving this.
It's pretty sickening that people "love" domestic terrorism. Unpatriotic, sick fuckers.
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October 28, 2018, 01:22:25 AM |
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend.
What about the rhetoric by the likes of Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and others? Sometimes explicitly calling for violence and in others implicitly calling for violence. How do you feel about liberal Mayors ordering police to stand down for political purposes, resulting in danger to many innocent lives? What about either condoning or ignoring violence when it happens? All that is okay, right? The double standard of the left is sickening and removes their credibility. Frankly many on the left with these double standard are outright bad people. THAT'S ALL DIFFERENT BECAUSE, shut up! >>> attitude of leftists and media already burying the attempt to assassinate Scalise and many others But hey, I am cool with these rabid leftists finding a common ground of acceptable and unacceptable behavior. But I doubt we'll see that.
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October 28, 2018, 02:54:14 AM |
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If you say something to some one and they freak out and physically attack you for it, is it their fault for attacking you or your fault for upsetting them? I would love to hear your answer.
You seem to be confused. Trump isn't being attacked physically, he's being rightfully ridiculed for saying stupid shit. If someone attacks him physically or sends a bomb to him that would not be ok. Instead of assuming who is who in this hypothetical, maybe answer the question. I'm not assuming anything. You're the one ranting about Trump being incorrectly faulted. I already answered your stupid question but in case the answer was not good enough for you to twist it into your narrative here is a more generic one: it's not ok to physically attack anyone for any reason. Are you sure its not ok to punch a "nazi"?
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October 28, 2018, 03:18:11 AM |
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Are you sure its not ok to punch a "nazi"?
No, I'm not gonna punch you, don't worry.
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In fact, the United States may split in this century and the next century. Please note that this is a country with a history of 300 years. There are still many problems that have not yet been resolved, such as the rudeness of black people. This is the stupidest behavior of white Americans. So now Americans, do you think the crisis is coming?
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