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October 30, 2018, 04:38:56 AM
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Im tired of listening to speculations ,ive been hearing bull run hype since september
Although im still believing that it will happen im just tired of getting hyped

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October 30, 2018, 05:13:08 AM
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Im tired of listening to speculations ,ive been hearing bull run hype since september
Although im still believing that it will happen i just tired of getting hyped

I guess the best that you can do now is just wait for it to happen. We know that there are market cycles and even if we know that there are many people who are taking advantage of controlling the market because of being unregulated, there may come a time when they would decide to just pump the market and if you are one of those retail traders who are waiting for those whales to act then it would be the best opportunity to act.

You may try to think like a whale and study their movements so that you may know if there is an impending major move that would happen soon.In this kind of market, patience is the key to be profitable.

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October 30, 2018, 05:34:03 AM
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Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.

Money, perhaps? Everyone has been talking about Bitcoin going to the moon for as long as I can remember, so this isn't exactly unique to our current circumstance.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..

Care to help me understand how you think this?

Some people are in it for the technology, believe it or not. They're simply not as vocal as the price fanatics. I mean, there's very little to talk about otherwise, with few people actually being specialized enough to understand the technology side of things.

A drastic change could cause a bull run to happen. The mainstream knows about Bitcoin, but a vast majority of them has no interest in it. If they develop an interest one way or the other, then there's massive potential for growth.

All i see in crypto is PURE speculation and everyone will agree with ANYTHING that helps them secure there beliefs in there own investment.

That's not exactly a hot take with speculators making up majority of the market, but I like to think that most who are in this actually believe that Bitcoin will play a major role in society in the future. Everyone can count their money in the meantime.

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October 30, 2018, 06:03:52 AM
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A friend of mine bought at $17 500 last year, so he hopes for a Bull run to get any kind of return on his investment. He has been waiting for nearly a year to see one cent profit from his investment in Bitcoin.

A lot of people are in the same boat with him and they have yet to see any profit from their investment into Bitcoin. Fortunately they are the lucky ones, because a lot of other people had to sell their coins at a loss, because they needed the money for something else.

There is nothing wrong with Hopes and Dreams for a Bull run.  Wink

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October 30, 2018, 06:08:19 AM
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Hoping for a bull run doesn't make it come,yeah most people may be desperate for it, and you cannot really blame them, as they bought at a very high price, and now the price is 2 times low their purchase price

This year hasn't been as favorable as last year,but it hasn't been that much terrible per se,we could just hope the factors that signal a rise in price appears on scene, so the bull run comes

But at the end all we're left with in this system is mere speculations as there's no real fact on the ground to go by
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October 30, 2018, 06:38:01 AM
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All of us have the same dream to see the bull runs to comes and happen in this year, and if it's not happen in this year, then we still have time to wait for this. I am sure that the bull run will come and I am sure that the price can reach more than $17k again and even more. One thing that we need to know is bitcoin will break every level of the price and it will on the top of the price which we think that the sky is limit. Be patient to wait for the bull runs and stay calm.


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October 30, 2018, 12:04:17 PM
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All of us have the same dream to see the bull runs to comes and happen in this year, and if it's not happen in this year, then we still have time to wait for this. I am sure that the bull run will come and I am sure that the price can reach more than $17k again and even more. One thing that we need to know is bitcoin will break every level of the price and it will on the top of the price which we think that the sky is limit. Be patient to wait for the bull runs and stay calm.
Yes of course if not this year, next year the possibility of bull run, will coming true, but this quit a tedious wait the question is how long you will not give  up. Patience is a virtue but  it seems necessary, because loosing is not an option.

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October 30, 2018, 12:59:38 PM
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Last year, when only few had known cryptocurrency, was the biggest increase in the coin's prices. These early investors really got rich in an instant. This year, when a lot of new investors join in the party, become a down market. They don't even know what hit them. Bull run will happen when it happens. It's hard to predict.

   A lot of experts say's a lot of things about possible Bull Run yet, all are just Speculation, if we look on the market preview, we've seen the sadden drops of Bitcoin as posted on the market, the good news, it didn't drop further, the market remains stable, the fundamentals, and clear market structure remain stable, all news or what ever information about crypto will always be as Speculation as of this time.
Speculations will be an advance thing with crypto nowadays and thinking in positive was the least priority, and if you're not strong enough to handle your emotions you'll tend to give up. Don't be like that, because as long as the community of crypto will still be active at trading and bitcoin will always be used for crypto transactions we will see a good results to give us a break as surprise.

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October 30, 2018, 04:25:25 PM
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Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.
Obviously, crypto is a speculative assets, that's why people are hoping for a bull run to get a better returns for their investment.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..
Well, this is not a get rich scheme, and those who are here to get rich is already out of the market when the bears took over. And its hard to replicated what we have witnessed last year.

Care to help me understand how you think this?

All i see in crypto is PURE speculation and everyone will agree with ANYTHING that helps them secure there beliefs in there own investment.
As I have said, this whole crypto thingy is now a big speculative asset. Everyone has its own prediction to totally fit what they need. The question is how the market will react based on those predictions?

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October 30, 2018, 05:13:32 PM
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Not everyone is hoping for a bull run if you're looking hard enough... this unexpected slowdown and decline in price has given a lot of people on the sidelines opportunities to go in with much lower capitals, while those like me who only "started" building up never reached our goals in 2017 as price just meant that we were earning less and less coin (since most people earn in dollar value).

I think many people are hoping for SOME form of recovery, sure. Even 50% of ATH and stabilising there would be roundly seen as very positive - that's a solid $10k for Bitcoin. But not a bull run, I don't think. Plenty of time left to consolidate, and the longer it takes before we make another go at ATH, the better Bitcoin will be able to hold on to gains.

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October 30, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
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Not everyone is hoping for a bull run if you're looking hard enough... this unexpected slowdown and decline in price has given a lot of people on the sidelines opportunities to go in with much lower capitals, while those like me who only "started" building up never reached our goals in 2017 as price just meant that we were earning less and less coin (since most people earn in dollar value).

I think many people are hoping for SOME form of recovery, sure. Even 50% of ATH and stabilising there would be roundly seen as very positive - that's a solid $10k for Bitcoin. But not a bull run, I don't think. Plenty of time left to consolidate, and the longer it takes before we make another go at ATH, the better Bitcoin will be able to hold on to gains.

Great post bro, $10,000 would be great to see again. A period of consolidation in & around that figure for a year or so would be great. The next halving would the come into play as we look to maybe see the beginning of the next bull run in Jan 2020 or thereabouts.

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October 30, 2018, 10:33:04 PM
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Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.

That "everyone" is not the key for bull run to happened so just let that people hope for it. I assumed that "everyone" you are talking about are those people or users here that is posting "they want bull run to happened". Mostly average cryptocoiners (crypto people) or newbies.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..

There is always a large institutions or persons who will put money on crypto especially at bitcoin no matter what. What happened last year is pure hype and others go with the flow without understanding the risks they are entering. It's not a reason why people shouldn't trust again bitcoin.

Just trust the process.

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October 30, 2018, 11:29:28 PM
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If its anything like 2015 then it will most likely keep trading sideways and then some exchange will get "hacked" and it will cause support to break and then a few hours later it will end up closing as a long doji or wick.

People will get stopped out because there will be huge liquidations and basically withdraw their funds and give up. And the only people left will be the true Hodl'er.

Basically since everybody thinks there will be a new ATH in November 2018 is the reason why there will not be an ATH. The bears are no different. They are expecting something like $1-2K BTC and that will neither happen. It will mostly trade sideways. Margin longs and margin shorts will eventually quit because they are losing on the funding cost and then the next cycle will start.

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October 30, 2018, 11:45:33 PM
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Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..

Care to help me understand how you think this?

All i see in crypto is PURE speculation and everyone will agree with ANYTHING that helps them secure there beliefs in there own investment.


The price today is $6kish, next year possibly $4kish for a bottom this time around, but probably not lower. The price 2-4 years ago was less than 1/10th these figures. The price 4-6 years ago was less than 1/100th these figures.
Get the picture?
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October 31, 2018, 11:14:57 AM
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Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..

Care to help me understand how you think this?

All i see in crypto is PURE speculation and everyone will agree with ANYTHING that helps them secure there beliefs in there own investment.
This is how assets market operate.  After the bull run we should expect some corrections that do push the market backwards.  In 2017 many investors, invest into cryptocurrencies market because of the hope and what the future hold and that is the most important! The market cycle is what we can not do without and like a saying goes " whatever go up must come down" since bitcoin and the overall general market is down now we should expect another bullish trend very soon. 
Money is going to flow from the both money market and capital market into cryptocurrencies market as investors are seeing it as the alternative to stock market now.
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October 31, 2018, 02:31:47 PM
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Not everyone is hoping for a bull run if you're looking hard enough... this unexpected slowdown and decline in price has given a lot of people on the sidelines opportunities to go in with much lower capitals, while those like me who only "started" building up never reached our goals in 2017 as price just meant that we were earning less and less coin (since most people earn in dollar value).

I think many people are hoping for SOME form of recovery, sure. Even 50% of ATH and stabilising there would be roundly seen as very positive - that's a solid $10k for Bitcoin. But not a bull run, I don't think. Plenty of time left to consolidate, and the longer it takes before we make another go at ATH, the better Bitcoin will be able to hold on to gains.

Great post bro, $10,000 would be great to see again. A period of consolidation in & around that figure for a year or so would be great. The next halving would the come into play as we look to maybe see the beginning of the next bull run in Jan 2020 or thereabouts.

Aye, Koppite! Just because most alt holders are lamenting their mistakes and hoping for moon and bull, don't mean the rest of Bitcoiners are too. I'm small fish, a little bigger than some but chum for most others... but we actually really don't need another bull run so soon. That 5-figure BTC price would be so welcome, for sure, and I'll be first to crack a smile if that happens, and holds right there for a good year or so - minus the inevitable spikes and slides.

Be good to enjoy ourselves for the remainder of the year and 2019, work hard to have something significant to look at come 2020, come halving, come full-blown Lightning Network Wink

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October 31, 2018, 04:16:32 PM
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If its anything like 2015 then it will most likely keep trading sideways and then some exchange will get "hacked" and it will cause support to break and then a few hours later it will end up closing as a long doji or wick.

Nah. People should stop looking at 2015 because of how it was MtGox largely responsible for the horrible sentiment.

If you add that most people involved in this space weren't sure if Bitcoin was here to stay, it only further accelerated the sales going on back then. We are way past that stage, and I'm sure that most people finally have come to the point of acknowledging that Bitcoin isn't going anywhere.

Another bullish factor is that we're in the process of sucking market share out of USDT, which is slowly but surely flowing into other (more reputable) stablecoins. By the time USDT implodes, it will be a fart instead of a nuclear explosion. Life is good here, more so than ever before. Stacking BTC's is what people should be doing now, not waste time worrying about 1-5% movements.

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October 31, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
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Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..

Care to help me understand how you think this?

All i see in crypto is PURE speculation and everyone will agree with ANYTHING that helps them secure there beliefs in there own investment.


The mega run was last year yes, and in 2013, and in 2011. There wasn't one mega run and now it's done, it is a pattern of booms and busts that bitcoin goes through. 2017 was just the boom part of one of these cycles.

People aren't hoping for a bull run, we are guessing WHEN it will happen, not hoping that it might happen.

Why would any money come into Bitcoin after the crazy run and crash in 2011? Why after the early 2013 same thing? why after the late 2013 same thing?

My guess if you've never looked at the history of Bitcoin and had never heard of it before 2017 and only know about what happened in 2017. Bitcoin has been on an S-curve of adoption, each boom bringing in exponentially more people. With this most recent 2017 boom Bitcoin reached like 0.5% of the world population, which is nothing. So now that the crash has seemingly ended two months ago and the next bull run will almost certainly start within a few months people like to predict when exactly when it will start, cuz its fun to predict things.

If you don't know why people expect Bitcoin to continue going up and continue doing the boom-bust cycles that have defined its entire lifetime, well I'd suggest to just start learning about Bitcoin. There is a reason why in 7 years it went from less than one cent to $20k, and that reason didn't all of a sudden disappear after 2017.
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October 31, 2018, 08:44:58 PM
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Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..

Care to help me understand how you think this?

All i see in crypto is PURE speculation and everyone will agree with ANYTHING that helps them secure there beliefs in there own investment.
This is how assets market operate.  After the bull run we should expect some corrections that do push the market backwards.  In 2017 many investors, invest into cryptocurrencies market because of the hope and what the future hold and that is the most important! The market cycle is what we can not do without and like a saying goes " whatever go up must come down" since bitcoin and the overall general market is down now we should expect another bullish trend very soon. 
Money is going to flow from the both money market and capital market into cryptocurrencies market as investors are seeing it as the alternative to stock market now.

Expectations always come at the right time and when bullish will come don't be over excited but remain calm. Don't rush out on your holdings and have strong faith with crypto. This is one way of showing gratitude with your holdings, and yet be decisive on most certain cases that will affect your way of protecting a precious asset.
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November 01, 2018, 05:30:31 AM
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Im curious as to why many people "hope" for a bull run? How is this bull run gunna happen if everyone is hoping for a bull run.

I essentially think the mega run was last year, why would any new money come into it after what happened last year? People saw the rise and the crazy fall and loss it does. No one is in it for technology its all about wanting to get rich. I don't see how people think a bull run is coming..

Care to help me understand how you think this?

All i see in crypto is PURE speculation and everyone will agree with ANYTHING that helps them secure there beliefs in there own investment.
Hardest part about the bull run is that it happens at once. Right now, we are in a market where everything is looking stable, some drop off than some come up but in the end its always about the same price. When bitcoin went up last year it went up so quickly that most people didn't have time to react and that is why many people got in during the $15k+ times and right now they are not happy with that decision.

The only option we have right now is to keep our money in bitcoin until it goes up and never get it out of there. It is really hard when you have your money stuck somewhere for months and not moving even dropping couple points and you see it going to waste and not sure if it will ever go up again. Sometimes people say "enough" and get out sometimes they hang around but in the end if bitcoin jumps in price you need to have your money ready in it to make decent returns.

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