I don't want to use the marketplace - auctions board.

[Jet Cash]

I was going to list some Bitcoin related domain names for sale, and it appears that the popular place for such sales is the marketplace-auctions board. However, about half of the sales that I saw there were for Bitcoin Talk accounts, and I don't want to support or frequent a board that promotes these transasctions. Is there a board that can be used exclusively for "honest" Bitcoin related products?

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[Marshall14]

Apparently the marketplace(altcoin)happens to be the appropriate board for such advert..
And I don't see how your "honest" advert would mean you promoting the "dishonest" transactions that go on in such boards

[Jet Cash]

I've got a traditional English attitude, and I don't want to be seen to be in the midst of a load of account sales. Maybe it's a stupid attitude, but we have to live by our own standards of morality.

[YOSHIE]

Is there a board that can be used exclusively for "honest" Bitcoin related products?

I am more sure you made the Bitcoin board yourself, (Is there a board that can be used exclusively for "honest" Bitcoin related products?).
Like you make a board: (I've added a new board to the Fit to Talk forum).
If there is an idea you are implementing an exclusive Bitcoin transaction, I registered the first and Bitcoin Transactions.

[mk4]

Wouldn't it actually help improve the marketplace - auctions board if you create a topic there on what you're selling, as it actually adds something to that board that's not bitcointalk accounts? I don't know, it depends on the point of view I guess.

[LTU_btc]

Wouldn't it actually help improve the marketplace - auctions board if you create a topic there on what you're selling, as it actually adds something to that board that's not bitcointalk accounts? I don't know, it depends on the point of view I guess.

Agree. Legit deals would help to improve marketplsce. We shouldn't let account sellers to completely takeover this board. Unfortunately, account sales is allowed here and we are forced to share marketplace board with all these shady sellers.
Also, you can use Digital goods sub-board if you're going to sell domains for fixed price:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0

[OgNasty]

You want theymos to create a new auction section for you because you don’t want to use the existing one? 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I've got a traditional English attitude, and I don't want to be seen to be in the midst of a load of account sales. Maybe it's a stupid attitude, but we have to live by our own standards of morality.

I'm surprised you have an account on bitcointalk at all if those are your standards (lol). 

I'd say just go ahead and do your selling in the Marketplace or Auctions sections.  Yes, those sections are loaded with shady individuals, but perhaps you can bring your couth British bearing to the slums and show 'em how to do things properly. 

[Highpitched10]

I've got a traditional English attitude, and I don't want to be seen to be in the midst of a load of account sales.

Firstly you're on bitcoin talk, in the midst of tons and tons of spammers,scammers,account sellers/buyers ETC....

And you posting in the marketplce--auctions,would simply be you doing business,no strings attached whatsoever,you could self moderate the thread to keep it clean and free from those you're trying to avoid in the first place..

And you're @Jetcash,no ones gonna think you're in there spamming or trading accounts..
Now that's the good part of being a reputable member of this forum 

[Quickseller]

If you want to auction something, you can optionally use the auctions sub. You can otherwise use the sub you would normally list items for sale to auction these items.

In your case, you can list your domains in the Digital Goods sub. This is also filled with a lot of junk, however without commenting on your domains specifically, most domain listings are going to be junk.

[Direwolve735]

Wouldn't it actually help improve the marketplace - auctions board if you create a topic there on what you're selling, as it actually adds something to that board that's not bitcointalk accounts? I don't know, it depends on the point of view I guess.

In addition, Jet Cash is quite recognizable authority on the forum. Such a move would really help improve the marketplace - auctions board and attract other "honest" users. After all, this would mean that the branch is used not only to sell bitcointalk accounts, but also for other purposes that the respected members of the forum try to realize.

[hugeblack]

Try Digital goods , I have purchased and sold some domains in that section without a little spam.
Also, this section does not contain selling accounts as much as scam attempts.

Auctions: Good section if you have an account with a distinguished name and not to sell many domains"Regardless of your principles."

[bitmover]

Try Digital goods , I have purchased and sold some domains in that section without a little spam.
Also, this section does not contain selling accounts as much as scam attempts.

I was going to suggest that board...

Also, I believe there is no problem to post your topic on services board.

I know it is not a service, but that board is very active . There are not many spammers, and you will have the best chances of selling your domains there. I have already seen some domains sellers there btw

[jademaxsuy]

I've got a traditional English attitude, and I don't want to be seen to be in the midst of a load of account sales. Maybe it's a stupid attitude, but we have to live by our own standards of morality.

I know what you feel OP since auction board is good for nothing with those thieves, hackers, or scammers in that section. Well, if it is like that then there should be some regularization that should be done in that section. Anyway, with or without restrictions on that part, we have already get used to it. I came to visit that section but I am not interested seeing things  that are being auction in that section.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

You can leverage the signature feature for this. Respecting your decision

don't want to support or frequent a board that promotes these transasctions.

maybe you can change your signature to an advert creating awareness of your intention to sell those bitcoin related domain names, including a link to a blog or site (that's if you have one) with sale details. I believe this will create more exposure bringing in more customers due to your reputation on forum.

[LoyceV]

And you posting in the marketplce--auctions,would simply be you doing business,no strings attached whatsoever,you could self moderate the thread to keep it clean and free from those you're trying to avoid in the first place..

You can't create a self-moderated topic in Auctions (to prevent manipulation of auctions). Just like you can't edit or remove posts on that board.

[jackg]

I've got a traditional English attitude, and I don't want to be seen to be in the midst of a load of account sales. Maybe it's a stupid attitude, but we have to live by our own standards of morality.

Do we all do that, I thought it was just me....
And then there’s the point where they talk to you and you have to discretely find an exit. I’m sure a lot of these traditions stem from us finding stuff to do to waste time.

And you posting in the marketplce--auctions,would simply be you doing business,no strings attached whatsoever,you could self moderate the thread to keep it clean and free from those you're trying to avoid in the first place..

You can't create a self-moderated topic in Auctions (to prevent manipulation of auctions). Just like you can't edit or remove posts on that board.

You can in the “goods” section...

[asche]

I totally understand your unwillingness to be an OP among all of these scambies selling accounts.

I'd like to see some moderation on these boards as well, including tagging/deleting every single account selling threads. However I don't see that happening any time soon.
It the mean time, all we can do is post as much legitimate stuff in it to make it better.

I'm not sure if this would be very efficient tho, I myself don't set mouse or keyboard in it anymore because of what you stated...

[krishnapramod]

Suggestions would end up theymos creating "exclusive honest boards" for everything. Let's suck it up. IMO, I haven't seen much of account sales on marketplace, maybe one or two in a week. Things are getting better. If we are going to find a fault in every board, what's done would be a wastage when it simply could be fixed with reporting and tagging (with the +1 restrictions).

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Pardon me jet cash, On a totally unrelated note, why is reporting those thread of account selling considered to be a BAD report? Don't want to create a new thread asking this question but the very first day I visited the marketplace board then saw those thread of account selling, I reported almost all and it resulted to 30+ bad reports
with such feedback I'm sure any chances of getting a reports badge (when introduced) is dead Also i created a new reply so I can get a quick answer

[mk4]

Pardon me jet cash, On a totally unrelated note, why is reporting those thread of account selling considered to be a BAD report? Don't want to create a new thread asking this question but the very first day I visited the marketplace board then saw those thread of account selling, I reported almost all and it resulted to 30+ bad reports
with such feedback I'm sure any chances of getting a reports badge (when introduced) is dead Also i created a new reply so I can get a quick answer

If I remember correctly, account selling is NOT illegal in this forum, unfortunately. The best thing you could do is probably to just give the seller a bad trust rating. It's better than nothing I guess.

If you want people's opinions on this topic, I suggest reading this thread from 2016: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1582500.0

[Jet Cash]

All of the account sellers and the accounts if they are listed seem to be red4 or worse. I don't know why people buy them. I wouldn't have one if you gave it to me.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Jet Cash what domains do you own? I bought some 3 or 4 years ago, some are quite shit but 2 or 3 I reckon could go for a half decent amount in a few years.

You have to pay £3.99 a year to list them for sale on GoDaddy, I haven’t listed mine yet, I’m just HODLING them.

[Bttzed03]

If I remember correctly, account selling is NOT illegal in this forum, unfortunately. The best thing you could do is probably to just give the seller a bad trust rating. It's better than nothing I guess.

I always thought that selling of accounts is illegal until I read some topics yesterday. Now I am confused, if there is no specific rule against buying/selling accounts, then why does red-tagging these sellers even allowed?

Sorry if this is off-topic.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

If I remember correctly, account selling is NOT illegal in this forum, unfortunately. The best thing you could do is probably to just give the seller a bad trust rating. It's better than nothing I guess.

I always thought that selling of accounts is illegal until I read some topics yesterday. Now I am confused, if there is no specific rule against buying/selling accounts, then why does red-tagging these sellers even allowed?

Sorry if this is off-topic.

Account selling is not a bannable offence but you could say it’s frowned upon. DT members don’t like it & usually paint ‘for sale’ or ‘sold’ accounts red.

The reason for this is bought accounts are normally used for shady activities or shit posting in sig campaigns.

[Harlot]

Agreeing with what others have said, you can actually improve the thread by auctioning the domains in the auction board. But if you really insist on what you believe you could try and sell the domains in the digital goods section and from what I know some people are conducting auctions there as well, I don't know the specific rules in that board but it may be like the Collectibles section where they do auctions as well.

[Jet Cash]

I always thought that selling of accounts is illegal until I read some topics yesterday. Now I am confused, if there is no specific rule against buying/selling accounts, then why does red-tagging these sellers even allowed?

Sorry if this is off-topic.

I have no objection to account selling being discussed in this thread. In fact, I would welcome it.

You can discuss the selling of domain names as well if you like, guys.

[jackg]

Jet Cash what domains do you own? I bought some 3 or 4 years ago, some are quite shit but 2 or 3 I reckon could go for a half decent amount in a few years.

You have to pay £3.99 a year to list them for sale on GoDaddy, I haven’t listed mine yet, I’m just HODLING them.

He used to use namesilo but now they don’t allow him to withdraw bitcoin is the message I got.
They weren’t a great system anyway from what he was saying, there was a three day offset so the value could change between the time you clicked the withdraw button and the time you finally got the funds to go into your bitcoin wallet.

Jetty must have a few hundred domains also, he showed me a list of them a while back and it was quite extensive (although I didn’t read them all).

£3.99 is different from paying nothing also.
I’m not entirely sure whether domain name sales are particularly considered welcome here. Theey’re not as unwelcome as account buys or sells but you’ll still get people moaning about them going on around here (although people moan at everything at thee moment so I wouldn’t let that put you off)...

[Jet Cash]

He used to use namesilo but now they don’t allow him to withdraw bitcoin is the message I got.
They weren’t a great system anyway from what he was saying, there was a three day offset so the value could change between the time you clicked the withdraw button and the time you finally got the funds to go into your bitcoin wallet.

In my 20+ years of domaining I think I've used all of the major registrars, and Name Silo is the best for a variety of reasons, and I moved my whole portfolio of names over to them about a year ago ( over 500 names ).They accept Bitcoin inpayment for registrations and purchases, and they used to pay out using Bitcoin, and I suspect that they batched pyments which is why it could take up to 3 days to receive payments. They made no charge for this, and the price was around the mid-price quoted by XE.com. I suspect they may be holding Bitcoins in the expectation of a price increase.

I have taken not of the comments in this thread, and I will create a crypto names for sale list, and addit to my signature. I will also post a link on a board where that is permitted.

[pugman]

I was going to list some Bitcoin related domain names for sale, and it appears that the popular place for such sales is the marketplace-auctions board. However, about half of the sales that I saw there were for Bitcoin Talk accounts, and I don't want to support or frequent a board that promotes these transasctions. Is there a board that can be used exclusively for "honest" Bitcoin related products?

I don't have anything against you but you realize you're asking for something stupid and well, stupid.

We peasants are here are still waiting here for a new forum and dare you ask for a new auction board, that fits your need? Hell people paid more than a million dollars(VIP rank ,for the dumbnuts who don't get it) and got nothing in return, and you ask a new board for FREE?

Also, people use bitcoin for auctioning accounts and in your words ,"it promotes such transactions", now would you leave bitcoin too?

[Jet Cash]

I'm not asking for a new board. I'm asking for a board that doesn't allow the sale of undesirable and disreputable products. It seems madness to me to allow the sale of accounts, only to red tag them once they have been sold, and to red tag the sellers. Wouldn't it make more sense to ban the listing of such products, and not to give mixed messages.

I'm not sure why the concept of peasants has been brought into the topic either. The other point is that I like this forum and the current software, and I like Bitcoin. A lot of changes that are introduced for the sake of change are not benerficial, and some others can be destructive. ETFs in the case of Bitcoin for example.

[asche]

Again it depends of the ETF. The ones that are actually backed by BTC aren't bad for bitcoin. They would just increase volume.

[Jet Cash]

They would just increase volume.

Bypassing the mining procedure to increase the circulating volume of Bitcoin is against some of its fundamental principles. It is the start of moving control into the hands of the bankers, if they start to introduce fractional reserves and rehypothecation.

[detector]

If there is a demand for the account, it means that he/she still can earn money or ROI after purchasing.
If there is no auction for the account ,it means that there is no point for he/she to stay on this forum

[asche]

I think you got me wrong.
Simply some ETFs are not just based on the value of Bitcoin but involve BUYING bitcoin when someone uses the ETF.

So it is basically the same thing than if you just make a long or a short yourself, it is just handled by a broker.

[vit05]

Your request is extremely valid. There are several sections that offer exactly the opposite. subsections that serve only to offer schemes that are illegal in several countries.

Even worse, these schemes damage the image that Bitcoin has. Ponzi schemes undermine the understanding of newbies about the real function of cryptocurrencies. However, there is a section just for that. In addition to this section, there are several other sections in the marketplace which are of no use, since very few people use it and most are newbies trying to scam someone.

It is not a matter of transforming moderators into police. It is just a matter of organizing the forum in a way that its users can have a more pleasant experience. There could be a single section in the marketplace that would allow for everything without restraint. And other sections extremely moderate and with many rules for users with a ranking higher than full member.

It could have a reorganization of these sections in addition to a reorganization of the altcoins. Separate what is trade in the top 100 exchanges of the other thousands of altcoins and ICOs that are created daily.