Bitcoin was made by CIA or NSA

[steampunkz]

I dunno what to believe but in my opinion, Satoshi created Bitcoin in the year that people in the whole world are on the financial crisis. He didn't even profit from the start, But now if look at the price of BTC, If Satoshi is in the government then he should instantly come out immediately because he will become an instant celebrity and famous all around the world.

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[cellard]

@QuestionAuthority You're right about cryptography and other tech stuff being useful for us.

But about Bitcoin, i feel it's something controlled by the gov, in that they they can:

- plug it off whenever they want, for the reasons i outlined at the end of my first post

- control its price via centralized exchanges like Bitstamp, Coinbase, etc. That's one of the things Natalya Kaspersky said

So i don't see BTC as a tool for monetary freedom anymore, as i used to do.
BTC is not value that is fully in our hands like gold/silver are.

It may be fun and useful for speculators and the many crypto-based applications that are coming out, for sure.

But it is not as "rebellious" against the monetary sovereignty as i thought it to be.

You do know that bitcoin is open source, right? Not just the wallet software but also the protocol that controls the network.

I agree with the fact that the US Government/Army department and overall Intelligence has create some powerful tools that are now helping freedom of speech, such as Tor, and even some privacy based OS like Tails based on Tor. Thanks to these we have people like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden leaking disgraceful things that governments do and we can be safe at least on the code side since it's open source.

However you are omitting a small detail with Bitcoin... If the NSA really created it, then it must mean that they have 1 million BTC (since they would be satoshi basically). This is the first ever the creator matters because the creator got a fuckton of the "share" of the open source project.

The good news is Bitcoin is now big enough to deal with it ad it continues being a tool of freedom. The NSA having 1 million coins just means they are big players in the game and have skin on it, but you can't deny that they influence things if they put some agent to act as satoshi and then start moving some coins to brainwash the masses into a fork when they lose control of the way the project is developing (as a theory, see Craig Wright being a NSA agent for instance, even if thus far he is just a conman)

[mocker001]

Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy

I could not find anything about Russia banning the bitcoin on the internet, Russia has only threatened to do so, in fact, i saw a post here in bitcoin forum  some days ago about merits and the country that has earned more merits is Russia. Check it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3093768. Although  with China’s ICO ban and China’s exchange ban the Chinese got the 4th place in merits soo I disagre, there is no such thing as banning the bitcoin anywhere

[cellard]

Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy

I could not find anything about Russia banning the bitcoin on the internet, Russia has only threatened to do so, in fact, i saw a post here in bitcoin forum  some days ago about merits and the country that has earned more merits is Russia. Check it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3093768. Although  with China’s ICO ban and China’s exchange ban the Chinese got the 4th place in merits soo I disagre, there is no such thing as banning the bitcoin anywhere

Russia has been going back and forth about bitcoin for ages now. They even threatened people involved on bitcoin with jail time:



I really like this picture. You can see the OTC market growing as the threats of the government happen. It shows they just can't stop it.

[bagsat]

We can't really tell if that was made by them because we dont even know how it exist. Yet whom ever made that make a good and a right decision for it helps people gain profits.

[DigitalCyberius]

A very interesting theory. Alternatively, what if Bitcoin was created by (perhaps rogue) AI and/or quantum computers, with perhaps other unknown influencers, as a first step in taking over the world. Hopefully not, lol, but if you look into some of the AI happenings in recent times, it's pretty creepy, combined with the explosion of a highly erratic and volatile market with mysterious origins, and claims of high price manipulation... it gets you thinking

Have a great day!
The Cyberius team.

[MMS2017]

Bitcoin is not a secret currency it has many features all over the world and there is no need of bitcoin for CIA and NSA but if they want to use bitcoin it is accessible to every one in the world and for me crypto is valuable because we can travel this every where.

[entebah]

I think there is a connection in the creation of Bitcoin by the CIA, the FBI, and also the NSA at this time in my opinion it can happen, because irregularities in the creation of Bitcoin are very interesting to talk about, the whole world believes that who made Bitcoin is Satoshi Nakamoto from Japan, but until now he does not dare to show the public who he really is, so in this case I believe more in the world ruling group that plays behind the scenes in the creation of Bitcoin.

[daarul50]

I don't care who created Bitcoin because I can only thank the person for creating Bitcoin and its technology. Even though you assume that an intelligence agency from America that creates bitcoin does not mean we should not use that technology.

[Freecoin Hunt]

That's really ridiculous. it's more like a conspiracy theory.

[rikybrosh]

Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy

That's only your theory and oppinion, as I know China ban bitcoin because it's government afraid that their peoole will move their wealth to outside country. there is no relation between CIA or NSA, even why one of them create a currency which be used by criminals in deepweb??.

[Swap2Cash]

What would be the point?

[btyco]

If you look at the massive coincidence of hal finney living near a satoshi nakamoto there must be something going on there. This wasn't nsa created, but hal must have had a bigger part than he claimed

[Yara1]

I totally agree with you on this, despite the fact that I don't 100% agree with the ops point of bitcoin being created by the US government. It very simple since bitcoin is giving us an edge above what we use to have then I think we should be cool with it. All we want is a working system and bitcoin is giving us that system so if it is developed by the US government or any other individual it all a welcomed development.

[creeps]

I don't care who created Bitcoin because I can only thank the person for creating Bitcoin and its technology. Even though you assume that an intelligence agency from America that creates bitcoin does not mean we should not use that technology.

I have the same thought, I don't need to hide anything from the government because I'm just a normal citizen who makes money through cryptocurrency and because of bitcoin I'm slowly becoming a financially free. This technology is really amazing, and If the CIA or NSA or whatsoever created this platform, we should all be thankful for everything.

we are still not sure about this one, this is just an speculation and no one really knows. Maybe CIA agents really wants to free themselves from paying huge taxes from the government, or to do something that is not controlled by their government. Let's just live simple in a world of cryptocurrency, and do nothing wrong in this market, and we will be more blessed later on.

[PlusOne88]

How useful would it be to use bitcoin for surveillance or spying? Well I just think this is just a misinformation or misleading thoughts that could have gone wild. If I am the CIA or NSA I would rather choose a different method of looking through other countries movements. Not this because the whole network is very much complicated to trace transactions and the anonymity is part of bitcoin which means we can never really know who really is the person doing the transaction. And granting if it would be so easy to get the information, what will they get out of bitcoin transactions and how will they manage to look at every individuals account? If this is the method then it isn't worth I'd rather use my satellites better than spying over the cryptocurrency market.

[Pursuer]

Russia has been going back and forth about bitcoin for ages now. They even threatened people involved on bitcoin with jail time:

to be fair most of the news from Russia has been similar to the news from China. it is always exaggerated in English news media for some reason and the bitcoin news sites always make it even worse by adding fake information to the same news.
most of the times it is some low ranking government official who is expressing their opinion about bitcoin and the news sites report it as an official statement or law!

[munareal]

CIA and NSA are government agencies. Why will they invent a digital cash that will not be controlled by the government?

[TBboys]

I have heard too much about Bitcoin's various conspiracy theories. It is time to stop. No matter who the real creators of Bitcoin are, Bitcoin has nothing to do with it. Bitcoin is now marketized, and the price is now More depends on market demand, neither CIA nor NSA is important, it is important that Bitcoin is now independent.

[zhanyiguai261315]

No one has seen the real atoshi Nakamoto until now, which may be a fictional figure in the US intelligence agency!
The actual founder of BTC may be a CIA or NSA person trying to achieve some purpose through cryptocurrency!