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[tusandii]

Actually you are a little bit wrong.
They jackpot is not their money because it's 100% funded by the players. There are special jackpot tables where you pay more rake which goes into the jackpot.
On every other table other than these special tables this promotion doesn't count if you lose AAAKK or higher.

I know there is always some distribution, that's on any other site as well. But keeping 10% for absolutely no reason and then another 20% for the next jackpot is nonsense.

Anyway, it is what it is.

True, my friends agree with you and however the jackpot is the result of a pool of money that is given by players every time they play a game and at any casino, of course their jackpot system will have something in common, namely collecting money from players to fund the jackpot.
Regarding saving 10% for no reason and another 20% for the next jackpot is not the right thing because the jackpot is collected from player funds so whatever the nominal is, it must be clear about the details and the reasons for its use.
If we think about it, maybe the casino gives a distribution for a reason, but that reason must be clear and really said so that everything looks fair.
Not all gamblers can get the jackpot, but if there are gamblers who get the jackpot but the distribution is not clear, it will cause disappointment for the players.

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[pawel7777]

Actually you are a little bit wrong.
They jackpot is not their money because it's 100% funded by the players. There are special jackpot tables where you pay more rake which goes into the jackpot.
On every other table other than these special tables this promotion doesn't count if you lose AAAKK or higher.

Lol, on the same token you could say the site belongs to the players because it's funded by the rake paid by players.
Or that any business belongs to "the people" because it's their money that makes the profits of the business.

Playing jackpot tables means you have a chance to win the Jackpot and nothing more.

And if you think SwC does not own the Jackpot pool, then how do you expect them to change any Jackpot distribution or rules? Shouldn't you be appealing to the players instead? Come on.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Actually you are a little bit wrong.
They jackpot is not their money because it's 100% funded by the players. There are special jackpot tables where you pay more rake which goes into the jackpot.
On every other table other than these special tables this promotion doesn't count if you lose AAAKK or higher.

Lol, on the same token you could say the site belongs to the players because it's funded by the rake paid by players.
Or that any business belongs to "the people" because it's their money that makes the profits of the business.

Playing jackpot tables means you have a chance to win the Jackpot and nothing more.

And if you think SwC does not own the Jackpot pool, then how do you expect them to change any Jackpot distribution or rules? Shouldn't you be appealing to the players instead? Come on.

LOL. If you don't know the facts you should not comment here.

"Playing jackpot tables means you have a chance to win the Jackpot and nothing more.
", did you even ever play at SWC? Seems like you didn't.
Jackpot tables are taking more rake than normal tables.



For over 2 years people sit at these tables paying extra rake, and it never hits. And even if it hits only 70% paid out and the rest kept by the site, lol.

So next time please inform yourself before even trying to come at me.

[pawel7777]

Actually you are a little bit wrong.
They jackpot is not their money because it's 100% funded by the players. There are special jackpot tables where you pay more rake which goes into the jackpot.
On every other table other than these special tables this promotion doesn't count if you lose AAAKK or higher.

Lol, on the same token you could say the site belongs to the players because it's funded by the rake paid by players.
Or that any business belongs to "the people" because it's their money that makes the profits of the business.

Playing jackpot tables means you have a chance to win the Jackpot and nothing more.

And if you think SwC does not own the Jackpot pool, then how do you expect them to change any Jackpot distribution or rules? Shouldn't you be appealing to the players instead? Come on.

LOL. If you don't know the facts you should not comment here.

"Playing jackpot tables means you have a chance to win the Jackpot and nothing more.
", did you even ever play at SWC? Seems like you didn't.
Jackpot tables are taking more rake than normal tables.



For over 2 years people sit at these tables paying extra rake, and it never hits. And even if it hits only 70% paid out and the rest kept by the site, lol.

So next time please inform yourself before even trying to come at me.

What are you even talking about?

Extra rake is completely irrelevant. Paying rake (extra or not) does not make you an owner of the jackpot or any other site's funds. That's just not how things work. The pool belongs to SwC, not to you. That's why you're asking SwC (not players) to change the Jackpot rules and distribution, aren't you?

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Actually you are a little bit wrong.
They jackpot is not their money because it's 100% funded by the players. There are special jackpot tables where you pay more rake which goes into the jackpot.
On every other table other than these special tables this promotion doesn't count if you lose AAAKK or higher.

Lol, on the same token you could say the site belongs to the players because it's funded by the rake paid by players.
Or that any business belongs to "the people" because it's their money that makes the profits of the business.

Playing jackpot tables means you have a chance to win the Jackpot and nothing more.

And if you think SwC does not own the Jackpot pool, then how do you expect them to change any Jackpot distribution or rules? Shouldn't you be appealing to the players instead? Come on.

LOL. If you don't know the facts you should not comment here.

"Playing jackpot tables means you have a chance to win the Jackpot and nothing more.
", did you even ever play at SWC? Seems like you didn't.
Jackpot tables are taking more rake than normal tables.



For over 2 years people sit at these tables paying extra rake, and it never hits. And even if it hits only 70% paid out and the rest kept by the site, lol.

So next time please inform yourself before even trying to come at me.

What are you even talking about?

Extra rake is completely irrelevant. Paying rake (extra or not) does not make you an owner of the jackpot or any other site's funds. That's just not how things work. The pool belongs to SwC, not to you. That's why you're asking SwC (not players) to change the Jackpot rules and distribution, aren't you?

OK, you are talking nonsense again, no need to reply to you again. Like I ever said the jackpot belongs to me. I even wrote that I NEVER played these tables.
I didn't ask for anything, I just critisized the rules and pointed out that they are making it extremely difficult to hit the jackpot (which benefits them). Also if they shut down the site they are basically stealing a 100% funded by players jackpot. They didn't add 1 cent like any other site does. You don't think it's strange that the jackpot isn't hit in over 2 years? Just wow.
You have for sure never played at SWC, so I don't bother anymore to explain things to you. You didn't even know about the rake, that shows that you have no idea how this site works.

Lets leave it that way.
Wish you a great week and much success in whatever you do. Good bye

[pawel7777]

OK, you are talking nonsense again, no need to reply to you again. Like I ever said the jackpot belongs to me. I even wrote that I NEVER played these tables.

You did say "They jackpot is not their money because it's 100% funded by the players". I couldn't care less what tables you play (if any), but you implied that if you had played jackpot tables - you would be (co)owner of the jackpot pool. This is 100% false.
You want to end the discussion? Just admit that you were wrong, rather than waffling around the subject. The pool is owned by SwC, not the players. Period.

Also if they shut down the site they are basically stealing a 100% funded by players jackpot. They didn't add 1 cent like any other site does. You don't think it's strange that the jackpot isn't hit in over 2 years? Just wow.

The only way they'd be stealing is if they didn't pay out to the jackpot winners. Got evidence of that? Bring it on and post it. Otherwise, they can't steal from themselves. You just can't comprehend reality and keep thinking that the rake paid by the players is somehow theirs. Having a special purpose rake doesn't mean the ownership is somehow shifted to players. SwC is still the owner and they can change the rules and requirements. Again, that's why you DID ask THEM (not the players) to change the requirements.

I didn't ask for anything,

What's this then?:

Question to SWC, is there a play to change the bad beat jackpot requirements anytime soon?

You have for sure never played at SWC

Care to put your money when your mouth is? A little wager on that statement? You're not just a whiny faggot talking out of your ass, are you?

Wish you a great week and much success in whatever you do.

Don't try to fake being classy. Your "wish" is as dishonest as anything else you wrote. Stop talking shit, it's not going to work well for you.

[SwC_Poker]

RECORD 6.45 BTC BAD BEAT JACKPOT HIT!

The Bad Beat Jackpot was hit on SwC Poker for over 6,450,000 chips! Congratulations to the winners!

halonoob lost the hand with Aces Full of Kings and won 2,258,194 chips (2.258194 BTC) from the jackpot!

wtfjusthapnd won the pot with Quad Kings and collected 1,290,396 chips from the jackpot.

The other players dealt into the hand won a table share of 161,299 chips each.

WINNERS:

halonoob 2,258,194
wtfjusthapnd  1,290,396
GGsqual  161,299
Marwyn  161,299
jjjjjj  161,299
Transparent  161,299
Maldoror13   161,299
Tassie279   161,299

Jackpot has been reseeded and is currently over 1,310,000

https://twitter.com/SwCPoker/status/1645631752214392834

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Hmmmmm.

The 2 "winning" accounts are both baby seals nobody ever really saw playing before. Basically new accounts with almost no history.

SWC users in the chat are having a bad taste in the mouth about this and I can totally understand. This will be a topic in the chat for while now, I just checked it in and they were still talking.
Would not be surprised if we never saw these 2 accounts again on the site, I wonder why. 


PS: @ pawel

It's called being the bigger man and end things, guess you never heard about that.
Well, you know about class, 2 direct insults in 1 post.

You can play me HU 5 card OMAHA or BigO if you really want to "bet" on something. Bet on your skills. Anyway, you insults are ignored now, if you want to setup a game write on TG, if not, I couldn't care less.

Enjoy your life. Will not address you in this thread any further since all you want to do is argue and fight. We both have better things to do, at least I do. Ignored.

[iv4n]

Hmmmmm.

The 2 "winning" accounts are both baby seals nobody ever really saw playing before. Basically new accounts with almost no history.

SWC users in the chat are having a bad taste in the mouth about this and I can totally understand. This will be a topic in the chat for while now, I just checked it in and they were still talking.
Would not be surprised if we never saw these 2 accounts again on the site, I wonder why. 

Well, sounds a little suspicious, to be honest. I understand why it's a topic in the chat, it takes a lot of luck for this to happen to someone who is just starting... but it's not impossible. It's gambling after all. And Poker especially has those crazy twists, like in this "BadBeat" hand, aces vs kings, and crazy flop for both.

By the way, there's just an image on Twitter... it seems to me that we could see the replay of that hand before, or I mixed something up. It would be nice to see the replay.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Hmmmmm.

The 2 "winning" accounts are both baby seals nobody ever really saw playing before. Basically new accounts with almost no history.

SWC users in the chat are having a bad taste in the mouth about this and I can totally understand. This will be a topic in the chat for while now, I just checked it in and they were still talking.
Would not be surprised if we never saw these 2 accounts again on the site, I wonder why. 

Well, sounds a little suspicious, to be honest. I understand why it's a topic in the chat, it takes a lot of luck for this to happen to someone who is just starting... but it's not impossible. It's gambling after all. And Poker especially has those crazy twists, like in this "BadBeat" hand, aces vs kings, and crazy flop for both.

By the way, there's just an image on Twitter... it seems to me that we could see the replay of that hand before, or I mixed something up. It would be nice to see the replay.

You are right, everything could happen at any moment.

Though regulars playing for years and 2 total newbie accounts are both involved in the deciding hand, these odds are quite small to be honest. I mean both!

Let's see if they will ever be seen again or both just disappear.

About the replay, all I see is a screenshot on twitter, didn't see a video of it, now or in the past.

[iLike2Button]

RE: Recent Rake Increase, April 2023

I understand that an increase or decrease in rake caps may be necessary due to a dramatic rise or fall in the price of Bitcoin, but a change in the rake percentage represents a huge fundamental change in SWC rake policy.  A change in the percentage has nothing to do with a change in the price of Bitcoin.  Can you please explain why you are making these changes to the rake percentages?

The archived SWC rake is here: https://swcpoker.club/old-rake

I will post a few examples of the changes made to SWC rake policy

NL PL Games:

10/20 and under April 2023 to present: 5%
25/50 and up April 2023 to present: 4.5%
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10/20 and under Jan 2021 to April 2023: 4%
25/50 and up Jan 2021 to April 2023: 3.6%
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Too many rake changes from Aug 2020 to Jan 2021 to mention
There was a lot of confusion by SWC team regarding how to make changes
This is when the 1st fundamental shift in rake percentage policy takes place
A lot of very angry players
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10/20 and under Nov 2018 to Aug 2020: 2.5%
25/50 to 500/1000 Nov 2018 to Aug 2020: 2.5%
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I looked around the internets and found an old rake chart from SWC in 2016 where the NL/PL rake was 2.5% for all stakes.

As you can see from the no limit and pot limit rake changes listed above, over the course of approximately 3 years the rake percentage has doubled.  Why?  The limit games rake percentage has also increased substantially.  I will post regarding those separately.


Here is a quote from SWC 2019:

Bitcoin fluctation price should not affect to rake. Rake is paid based on a % of the pot so the price of bitcoin in $ have no relation..

We don't adjust rake %, only the cap. If we never changed the rake cap and bitcoin increased significantly we would no longer have the lowest rake in the industry. The inverse is true when the price falls, if we didn't raise the cap we wouldn't make enough to pay our bills.

Most players won't ever notice these changes because SwC is committed to always offer games with rakes much lower than the industry.

What happened to SWC in 2020?  Can you please justify this dramatic shift in policy?  Many of us have been playing at SWC for along time.  This isn't the SWC we originally signed up for.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

RE: Recent Rake Increase, April 2023

I understand that the increase or decrease in rake caps is may be necessary due to a dramatic rise or fall in the price of Bitcoin, but a change in the rake percentage represents a huge fundamental change in SWC rake policy.  A change in the percentage has nothing to do with a change in the price of Bitcoin.  Can you please explain why you are making these changes to the rake percentages?

The archived SWC rake is here: https://swcpoker.club/old-rake

I will post a few examples of the changes made to SWC rake policy

NL PL Games:

10/20 and under April 2023 to present: 5%
25/50 and up April 2023 to present: 4.5%
-------------------------------------------------
10/20 and under Jan 2021 to April 2023: 4%
25/50 and up Jan 2021 to April 2023: 3.6%
-------------------------------------------------
Too many rake changes from Aug 2020 to Jan 2021 to mention
There was a lot of confusion by SWC team regarding how to make changes
This is when the 1st fundamental shift in rake percentage policy takes place
A lot of very angry players
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10/20 and under Nov 2018 to Aug 2020: 2.5%
25/50 to 500/1000 Nov 2018 to Aug 2020: 2.5%
-------------------------------------------------
I looked around the internets and found an old rake chart from SWC in 2016 where the NL/PL rake was 2.5% for all stakes.

As you can see from the no limit and pot limit rake changes listed above, over the course of approximately 3 years the rake percentage has doubled.  Why?  The limit games rake percentage has also increased substantially.  I will post regarding those separately.


Here is a quote from SWC 2019:

Bitcoin fluctation price should not affect to rake. Rake is paid based on a % of the pot so the price of bitcoin in $ have no relation..

We don't adjust rake %, only the cap. If we never changed the rake cap and bitcoin increased significantly we would no longer have the lowest rake in the industry. The inverse is true when the price falls, if we didn't raise the cap we wouldn't make enough to pay our bills.

Most players won't ever notice these changes because SwC is committed to always offer games with rakes much lower than the industry.

What happened to SWC in 2020?  Can you please justify this dramatic shift in policy?

Oh wow, I didn't see there was another rake increase yesterday. Thanks for pointing that out!
20-25% more rake is ...... , well I don't even find words.

This time they raised the % AND the cap, what a greedy move.

Even before the raise they were by far not the lowest rake in the industry after all those rake increases in the past.

Raising the rake/or cap would only make sense ( be necessary for swc as a company ) of the price of bitcoin goes down and the earnings are not enough anymore.But even then it's not an argument to explain rake increases with the change of bitcoin price. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Guess they will loses 2 or 3 players of the 200 people player base now. 

[IsisSWCcell]

Dear SWC,

The stud games were being raked even if they didn't get to 4th street.  I see this has been fixed.  When will we be receiving refunds for this?

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Dear SWC,

The stud games were being raked even if they didn't get to 4th street.  I see this has been fixed.  When will we be receiving refunds for this?

They recently created a telegram group for these kind of questions and requests. Plenty of other people already voiced it there.
It shows the message when you login into your swc account, if it doesn’t show anymore here is the name of the telegram group: @swc_support

They are really fast in addressing players concerns, you should give it a shot.

[IsisSWCcell]

Dear SWC,

The stud games were being raked even if they didn't get to 4th street.  I see this has been fixed.  When will we be receiving refunds for this?

It's been 3 weeks. When will I be getting a refunds for this?  Some players have claimed they have gotten refunds for this already.  Why haven't I? Why are you not responding here?  

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Dear SWC,

The stud games were being raked even if they didn't get to 4th street.  I see this has been fixed.  When will we be receiving refunds for this?

It's been 3 weeks. When will I be getting a refunds for this?  Some players have claimed they have gotten refunds for this already.  Why haven't I? Why are you not responding here?  

Instead of complaining you should read my reply above. They are not really active here.
You should contact them via their telegram support group, that's why they made this group to they can replay and deal with player's problems fast.

Don't expect a reply here, message them on tg and send them an email.

[IsisSWCcell]

Dear SWC,

The stud games were being raked even if they didn't get to 4th street.  I see this has been fixed.  When will we be receiving refunds for this?

It's been 3 weeks. When will I be getting a refunds for this?  Some players have claimed they have gotten refunds for this already.  Why haven't I? Why are you not responding here?  

Still no refund. Still no response here either.

[ronaldo1223]

Who here is excited for the Bitcoin Series of Poker 2023? https://swcpoker.club/posts/bitcoin-poker-tournaments/2023-bitcoin-series-of-poker-5-btc-guaranteed

I sure wanna win a bracelet.

$10,500 guaranteed for the main event, not too shabby at all

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Who here is excited for the Bitcoin Series of Poker 2023? https://swcpoker.club/posts/bitcoin-poker-tournaments/2023-bitcoin-series-of-poker-5-btc-guaranteed

I sure wanna win a bracelet.

$10,500 guaranteed for the main event, not too shabby at all

It looks ok.
In my opinion it's still to NLH heavy, would love to see more mixed games as more tournaments of all the Omaha variants.
1 good thing though, happy to see they added 2 drawmaha tournaments, even if one is only a 15$ one.

Most tournaments have 3-4 rebuys, which is a bit too much I think. I know often enough at other sites you have unlimited rebuys but I prefer freezeouts or 1, max 2, rebuys.

Let's see if we find some overlays, with the rebuys and long late registration periods I doubt it though.

[ronaldo1223]

Who here is excited for the Bitcoin Series of Poker 2023? https://swcpoker.club/posts/bitcoin-poker-tournaments/2023-bitcoin-series-of-poker-5-btc-guaranteed

I sure wanna win a bracelet.

$10,500 guaranteed for the main event, not too shabby at all

It looks ok.
In my opinion it's still to NLH heavy, would love to see more mixed games as more tournaments of all the Omaha variants.
1 good thing though, happy to see they added 2 drawmaha tournaments, even if one is only a 15$ one.

Most tournaments have 3-4 rebuys, which is a bit too much I think. I know often enough at other sites you have unlimited rebuys but I prefer freezeouts or 1, max 2, rebuys.

Let's see if we find some overlays, with the rebuys and long late registration periods I doubt it though.

Haha I could guess your screen name in 3 guesses probably. You mixed omaha player scandis are pretty tough these days

I agree that there probably won't be overlays, though maybe in the high roller or heads up championship with no late reg

The worse would be if tourneys don't even run. I like to late reg but if i see one isn't going cuz not enough entrants to run I'll hop in. The mixed ones are probably in more danger of this.

Truly is a good start and something to build from, past tourney series have been decent but this really has a lot of good guarantees overall. And they do seem to have the tourney players.

Can't wait for the drawmaha and nl 2-7 events

And the 12 game championship is mine. Come at me