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November 19, 2018, 08:47:56 AM
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Anyone who is of the opinion that bitcoin is created for money laundering is either deceiving himself or being economical with the truth and that is a fact. Long before now, the issue of money laundering has been a major concern and with the several controls put in place, I can say boldly it has reduced rather its just not announced in other to give credit to the various controls that have been put in place by the managers of the economy and encourage them to continue to do more. Bitcoin on the other hand is gradually losing its anonymity because of the KYCs policies which makes it even difficult to move huge amount of coin value without raising a dust.
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November 19, 2018, 09:13:55 AM
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For me you're not answering the claim at all.

What the article says is that banks already are laundering a hell amount of money.
Businesses are deep in that too.
In fact the more money you have the more likely you are to be deep in laundering.

But it doesn't change the fact that it's one of the main uses of btc. Saying "there are other ways to do money laundering" doesn't change the fact that btc is used for that, a lot.

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November 19, 2018, 02:31:49 PM
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 I think this polemic that makes price movements continue to experience correction, many negative news that hit crypto currencies including bitcoin, many issues that bitcoin is often used as a tool for money laundering, it is difficult to get rid of the presumption because it is the priority of bitcoin, one can know wherever the bitcoin flows but the bitcoin is known to come from and to whom
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November 19, 2018, 02:53:53 PM
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I think this polemic that makes price movements continue to experience correction, many negative news that hit crypto currencies including bitcoin, many issues that bitcoin is often used as a tool for money laundering, it is difficult to get rid of the presumption because it is the priority of bitcoin, one can know wherever the bitcoin flows but the bitcoin is known to come from and to whom
this is because of the anonymous nature of bitcoin. of course the decline in confidence in bitcoin is further shrinking with the many bad news. but clearly BTC will never bubble
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November 20, 2018, 10:01:02 AM
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A lengthy response to the claim that "bitcoin was only created to launder money"

Bitcoin’s Affect on US Banks Money Laundering

While the US banks are crying about over-regulation and Fox News reports that crypto increases money laundering to their viewers in America, we thought it would be fun to see how much money American banks have laundered over the last decade.

Since the taxpayers covered the $21bn cost to bailout the banks a decade ago, they’ve surely learned their lesson and changed their ways.

While there is dispute in the press and government about the cost of regulating the financial industry being between $1.2 trillion or $2 trillion annually, the costs could easily be brought down if taxpayers realized how much money laundering is continually being found in the banking system.

Money Laundering and Manipulation by US Banks

When JPMorgan paid $65 million for manipulating the benchmark for interest rate derivatives, it took regulators years to investigate and prove, while the bank was allowed to pay a fine and neither admit or deny the regulators “claims” of wrongdoing. Goldman Sachs paid $120 million for the same fraud investigated by regulators.

Bank of America paid $30m to settle charges it manipulated global interest rates for 6 years on customers purchased products from the bank.

In 2006, when Bank of America admitted to allowing $3 billion to be laundered through a single Manhattan branch, the bank claimed in a statement to “take seriously it’s anti-money laundering obligations.”

Years later Bank of America paid $17 billion in penalties for profiting off loans they knew would never be paid, while mocking the “due diligence” processes regulators required.

Their fine for not following money laundering procedures in 2017 was only $13 million. The “allegations” date back to 2010 and 2011, so the investigation and time for settlement negotiations must have cost the tax payers a lot for that one.

Citibanks Money Laundering Fines

Citigroup puts so much effort dealing with money laundering “allegations,” it’s hard to imagine they have time to manipulate global interest rates.

They still found the time to manipulate interest rates though and overcharge customers back in 2008 and 2009. Citibank paid a $100 million fine this year for the fraudulent activity. That’s almost ten years regulators and lawyers had to negotiate after a crime was committed for a settlement and story to tell the public.

They were also fined $70 million in 2018 for failure to comply with anti-money laundering laws.

In Ireland, Citibank was fined €1.33 million as well this year for loan breaches, we’ll stick to the US fraud with these global banking giants, for the most part though.

In 2015 Citibank were ordered to pay $700 million in consumer relief for illegal credit card add-ons charged to customers. If consumer fraud against 7 million banking customers isn’t a good way to market buying bitcoin, we don’t know what is.

In 2017 Citigroup kindly agreed to pay a $97 Million settlement for laundering money in Mexico after their Banamex USA federal investigation took years to uncover the banks misdeeds.

JPMorgans Illegal Activities

Some might say Citibank is just one bank that had some bad apples, it’s no reason to “bank on bitcoin” in the US. They never followed JPMorgan and their illegal activities over the last few years.

JPMorgan admitted no wrongdoing when paying $2.8 million in 2017, for eight years of lacking proper safeguards for customers.

In 2014 though, JPMorgan paid out whopping $2.6 billion to settle “allegations” that they helped Bernie Madoff rob people for 20 years. Then they settled other “claims” that they assisted Madoff with theft but it was only $218 million and $325 million to settle those.

Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme was estimated to have cost investors between $12 and $20 billion. He was on the board of governors of the National Association of Securities Dealers, now called Finra. He also helped create the Nasdaq stock market, where JPMorgan earned the $3 billion it paid to settled for their connection to him.

That was only a couple of months after their 2013 settlement, where JPMorgan paid $13 billion for selling fraudulent loans to customers.

JPMorgans CEO earned $20 million in 2014, $18 million in restricted stock, for helping the shareholders stop worrying about all the “illegal activities” they were caught for.

Wells Fargo Fraud Scandals

Wells Fargo has been a nightmare since it was caught creating fake bank accounts using their customers details. Their recent SEC settlement for $5.1 million was from 2009 to June 2013 “allegations” (they never admit wrongdoing, ever) they stole fee’s from customers like other banks do.

The $1 billion fine Wells Fargo agreed to pay in 2018 for “bad acts against customers,” along with the $2 billion fine from the decade old mortgage financial crisis.

They were also one of banks that banned buying bitcoin in the US with their credit cards.

Perhaps bitcoin having a controlled supply of 21 million coins conflicts with the banks and federal reserve belief, to create money and never be audited are benefits to everyone who values the US dollar.

Bitcoin wasn't created to help money laundering anymore than banks were created to pay fines and admit no wrongdoing.


Source: https://www.bestbitcoinbuyers.com/2018/11/14/bitcoin-will-save-us-taxpayers-millions-wasted-investigating-and-regulating-the-banks-money-laundering-schemes/


Even in FIAT money there would always be money laundering and using any currency to a bad thing and not only in Bitcoin.
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November 26, 2018, 12:25:47 PM
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I think it is just a false news spreading over the internet. It is to confused the mindset of the people connected to bitcoin.
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