Market manipulation?

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I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

At the moment, you do not need to be a cryptography guru to see the manipulations in the crypto market. These people do not stop. The market continues to be wild. Institutional investors do not want to invest that is why. Too much risk. Too many manipulations ...

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I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

Market manipulation is possible, whales are driving the price crazily. I think whales agree to pump or dump the price for them to take advantage of it and become even more rich. Cryptocurrency price is driven by the market demand, and price increase and drop also affects the market activity. So, whales or big investors has a huge role on the market price.

[purplemoon]

The market is very much subject to manipulation. This is a consequence of very poor regulation. But this is only the beginning. I am sure that next year the market will become much stronger. We look forward to the launch of the Bakkt trading floor and the commencement of Nasdaq exchange futures trading. I think that this will give impetus to the development of the market.

[PG13]

I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

People are greedy for their personal interest and they will use their power to get what they wanted. This is the reason that they will create FUD to distract the attention of the small time investors to sell their coins and those manipulators will be happy to buy it at cheaper price.

[arifteguhr]

It seems that indeed today the market conditions are purely manipulation. of course this is very sad. because nowadays when many people hope that price increases will actually occur, the market will experience a significant decline

[Altryist]

My opinion is that the market at this stage of development is completely subject to manipulation and until we fix it, the big trust from investors and ordinary users will not achieve cryptocurrency. Most likely that this can be used if you are able to analyze and predict the moves of the manipulators, but this is more an adventure than making a profit.

[usticiann]

It could be market manipulation. Who knows? I've heard  plenty of buzz around the net about it. But you know what? I don't want to know if it's true or not. I just don't want to get my head around things like that. I'm sticking to my theory that the market will evolve and eventually stabilize.

[bamb]

Manipulations in different class of trading asset like bitcoin can loud or subtle, the bottomline here is that market manipulation happen everywhere. It's hightime we start resisting people that demonize bitcoin. Many criminal activities were been carriedout by fiat not bitcoin!

[baricuri]

If any force is strong enough to push the market up again then that is a great thing, but now we will not have any chance they are always afraid of too many people holding. Hold and wait for the opportunity to sell

[DoubleShow]

If any force is strong enough to push the market up again then that is a great thing, but now we will not have any chance they are always afraid of too many people holding. Hold and wait for the opportunity to sell

Growth will occur, but when it happens it is very difficult to say. It seems to me that due to the manipulation of many investors to sell their BTC for very small money. Although we all know that the market will grow , but when growth will begin no one can answer. I think BTC will long be around $ 5,000 .

[JealousCup]

If any force is strong enough to push the market up again then that is a great thing, but now we will not have any chance they are always afraid of too many people holding. Hold and wait for the opportunity to sell

Growth will occur, but when it happens it is very difficult to say. It seems to me that due to the manipulation of many investors to sell their BTC for very small money. Although we all know that the market will grow , but when growth will begin no one can answer. I think BTC will long be around $ 5,000 .

Of course growth will occur, but when it'll happen, the people who are gonna be making money off them will be the always powerful top 1%. But it's up to us to decide whether we're gonna let it happen or do something about it by choosing our own payment circuits.

[JealousCup]

Manipulations in different class of trading asset like bitcoin can loud or subtle, the bottomline here is that market manipulation happen everywhere. It's hightime we start resisting people that demonize bitcoin. Many criminal activities were been carriedout by fiat not bitcoin!

I don't think tat the point is to demonize bitcoin but rather warn others that in the near future, the average Joe won't be able to make money from trading cryptos. We gave that right to the banks and the corporate moguls.

[mbluxs]

I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

research is not necessarily uncertain, do not be affected by the news because such news is sometimes true and sometimes wrong.
more amenable, we just follow the path in front of us, get rid of negative thoughts and instill positive thoughts

[Agapelove]

We can evaluate, assess, and speculate about the issue of price manipulation, but there's no way to prove without doubt its truth. This is what could be most probably true, there are people who hold huge amount of coins. From economics point of view, they can become price manipulators.

[JealousCup]

We can evaluate, assess, and speculate about the issue of price manipulation, but there's no way to prove without doubt its truth. This is what could be most probably true, there are people who hold huge amount of coins. From economics point of view, they can become price manipulators.

Who do you think has enough financial means to manipulate cryptos' prices?

[adzino]

Yup. The bitcoin/cryptocurrency market can actually be manipulated. Whales can manipulate the price of the market buy dumping or pumping a coin. There are trade bots on exchanges that can really play a vital role in price manipulation. Tether can be used to bend the price of bitcoin. There are some conspiracies which states that bitcoin price has been manipulated in 2017 with the help of tether.  Not sure if it is true, but is indeed possible.

[papagravel]

I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

So that no one will tell you, but those who invested in Bitcoin at the time when it was very cheap were the first to become millionaires. Those who invest in Bitcoin at a price of ten thousand dollars and higher, will not become millionaires, they are late.

[JealousCup]

I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

So that no one will tell you, but those who invested in Bitcoin at the time when it was very cheap were the first to become millionaires. Those who invest in Bitcoin at a price of ten thousand dollars and higher, will not become millionaires, they are late.
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Yes, but isn't the price dropping? My take on it is that is it's gonna drop low enough for those who want to gain control of the market to buy them all.

[plr]

I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

Well care to drop the files here or the links to that study I'm pretty sure many will be interested on how they are doing that and if they can do that to Bitcoin it can be done to any coin as well, and in fact there are so many pumped and dumped coins in the market right now.

[BitcoinCazh]

there is have the proof, market bitcoin is pure growth with community, but i just know when some people with manybitcoin them can just make price goin to up or down not manipulation