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November 21, 2018, 02:31:11 PM
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OVERALL, THE SITUATION LOOKS HORRIFYING!

The policy of Mr. Xi, the Chinese President, is quite interesting. Find a nation across the globe that is in dire need of money, help them with the funds, and finally, in return, ask for their "best thing possible" at an extreme discount. That "best thing possible" may be a port or a big share of oil.

Take a close look at the top 10 countries with the most GDP from 1960 to 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wykaDgXoajc

Chinese growth after 2005 is awesome. According to the projection for the future, China will have the world's no. 1 economy by the year 2032, leaving the United States of America behind! IMO, it takes much more than just "good governance" to reach that level of greatness. It requires some grand strategies to pull out a growth like this. To me, it seems like China is actually influencing the world by going after the poor countries and buying off their "qualities" for "peanuts".

Check out the China-backed ports:



The ports like Hambantota Port of Sri Lanka, Djibouti port of Djibouti and Gwadar Port of Pakistan are now in complete control of China. Chinese can do whatever they want at these ports as Sri Lanka, Djibouti (and even whole African continent) and Pakistan have excessively been funded by China and now they're in Chinese "debt trap". Even Venezuela, looking at the short-term gain without having any long-term plan, is constant selling more and more oil shares to China.

What's next? Who's going to be the next victim of China?
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November 21, 2018, 05:50:14 PM
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Who's going to be the next victim of China?

I mean China didn't force their hand to take out loans from them... It's unfair to them. Don't hate the player, hate the game Wink Also, No matter how you look at it, In the long run, these countries will benefit from the development of their ports. Especially Pakistan. Pakistan Can really bank from this collaboration if they play their hands right. They aren't in the trap yet iyam but they are hanging by a thread. If Pakistan can work on its local industry and bring it to "exportable" standards. They will see a crazy growth in their economy in no time.
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November 21, 2018, 07:35:17 PM
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Who's going to be the next victim of China?

I mean China didn't force their hand to take out loans from them... It's unfair to them. Don't hate the player, hate the game Wink Also, No matter how you look at it, In the long run, these countries will benefit from the development of their ports. Especially Pakistan. Pakistan Can really bank from this collaboration if they play their hands right. They aren't in the trap yet iyam but they are hanging by a thread. If Pakistan can work on its local industry and bring it to "exportable" standards. They will see a crazy growth in their economy in no time.

I seriously doubt that. Yes, China didn't force these countries to have the loan; however, the Chinese government is playing the game very cleverly. The bad thing is, the countries with which Chinese government is dealing are not clever enough. Eventually, they'll realize that they've been left behind in dust and this includes Pakistan (of course, it's only my opinion, I hope it doesn't happen like that!)
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November 21, 2018, 10:51:51 PM
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Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Investing is not controlling. You may participate in an investment and even gain some influence, but that does not mean that you can do anything you like (at least in developed countries)
- If you owe China a dollar, you are owned by China. If you owe China 1 Billion, you own China?
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November 21, 2018, 11:46:55 PM
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CHINA is one of the best countries. Maybe not for everyone, but it' politically stable and strong economically. It is becoming stronger economically for the farmers.

If USA or big European countries what to compete with China in the next 100 years, those countries must "steal" from China. Why in China technology gets adopted so easily? It nearly happens overnight and POOF there are markets accepting contactless payments, POOF there is technology which allows you to do shopping from home and when you get to the market you go just to get your items.



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November 23, 2018, 02:37:18 AM
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According to the projection for the future, China will have the world's no. 1 economy by the year 2032

I read a different projection that has them overtaking the US in five years - by 2024.  Smiley
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November 23, 2018, 04:35:32 AM
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According to the projection for the future, China will have the world's no. 1 economy by the year 2032

I read a different projection that has them overtaking the US in five years - by 2024.  Smiley

I believe that’s an older projection. The current America First policies have had a major impact in this area.
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November 23, 2018, 04:49:43 AM
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According to the projection for the future, China will have the world's no. 1 economy by the year 2032

I read a different projection that has them overtaking the US in five years - by 2024.  Smiley

I believe that’s an older projection. The current America First policies have had a major impact in this area.

I can believe that.  Trump certainly prioritizes profit over anything else.

Does it really matter anyway?  Unless there is a sky fairy, economies will become irrelevant in just a couple decades due to climate change.
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November 23, 2018, 10:09:35 AM
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According to the projection for the future, China will have the world's no. 1 economy by the year 2032

I read a different projection that has them overtaking the US in five years - by 2024.  Smiley

I don't find it surprising. The US owes 1.15 Trillion dollars to China and this will only go up further...



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The bad thing is, the countries with which Chinese government is dealing are not clever enough.

Lol, Are you sure about that? I mean fooling people to get into power is no easy task. They got in power through manipulation lets not pretend that 9 years olds are running the country.
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November 23, 2018, 06:45:58 PM
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Does it really matter anyway?  Unless there is a sky fairy, economies will become irrelevant in just a couple decades due to climate change.

Why do you think they will be irrelevant? Different yes.

One example: There are quite a few regions in Canada and Rusia that would be much more economically active with 5 to 10 degrees more.
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November 23, 2018, 11:59:50 PM
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One example: There are quite a few regions in Canada and Rusia that would be much more economically active with 5 to 10 degrees more.

5 to 10 degrees!!!!!

The human race will go extinct before we hit 10.   The environment is going to change radically just with a couple degrees.
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November 24, 2018, 04:08:46 PM
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Chinese people work very hard and try to make their country more strong. It is all about mentality. Many of them dont think just about how to make money and to live for themselves. They are patriotic and think about their homeland.
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November 25, 2018, 01:23:55 AM
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One example: There are quite a few regions in Canada and Rusia that would be much more economically active with 5 to 10 degrees more.

5 to 10 degrees!!!!!

The human race will go extinct before we hit 10.   The environment is going to change radically just with a couple degrees.

5 to 10 degrees average per year would make siberia and ample regions of the artic circle habitable. I don´t have sources, is just an idea.

I don´t see why the humans as a species would be dead. Climate has changed quite a few times and humanity has managed to survive. I do agree that it would have mostly dis-likeable consequences for most people.
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November 25, 2018, 02:27:43 AM
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China controls more than 90% of the gold in the world. We should expect to see a gold backed yuan in the future.
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November 25, 2018, 08:35:57 AM
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It is horrifying that a country with such low quality products and services can actually hope to take over. I avoid dealing with anything Chinese. Now that UK is out of the game I think Europe should focus their trades on US (Trump won't rule forever with his trade wars).
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November 25, 2018, 09:23:07 PM
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Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Investing is not controlling. You may participate in an investment and even gain some influence, but that does not mean that you can do anything you like (at least in developed countries)

>>at least in developed countries

But in third world countries, large investments almost always mean control in the political life of the country.
Recently, China has been investing huge amounts of money in Africa, and given the level of corruption there, they will most likely influence certain political decisions of these countries.
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November 29, 2018, 07:39:57 AM
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What's next? What's next is China might start an all out war with the United States if Trump didn't comply. Remember they hired recently graduated high school students to make AI weapons for them, including harmful chemicals they can release into the atmosphere that will be fatal to their enemies. It's not just US either. China is also invading the Philippines little by little. In a few years time the Philippines will become a state of China. It's already happening now.
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November 29, 2018, 11:50:20 PM
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Or if you look at the Big Picture, after the blip caused by the Industrial Revolution, normal service (Chinese world dominance) is being resumed..



note x axis compression.
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November 30, 2018, 06:44:47 PM
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The victim of China will slowly become at least the whole of Asia and part of Europe. China is taking all sectors of the economy by leaps and bounds. For 10 years, China's production has grown to obscene proportions.
China is no longer just a country, but a leading investor and leader of the world economy.
At least look at their automotive industry.. Yes perhaps many still consider Chinese cars number 2, but you look at their quality today! At the presentations of the leading motor shows on the front pages everywhere Shine Chinese cars and I'm sure with them they will soon conquer the whole of Europe.
This is not the only example. All because of their mentality and quality of government. Be prepared that the United States quietly surrender their positions and not someone namely China.
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November 30, 2018, 07:24:32 PM
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China is clearly superseding the US as the global power number one
the shift has been happening for quite some time  and maybe you can look at the empty , fully built chinese ghost cities from another perspective now
there are communications and infrastructure, just waiting for the specialists from around the world to be brought in
https://www.businessinsider.com/these-chinese-cities-are-ghost-towns-2017-4

they are investing in ports and the most famous and ambitious Second Great Silk road as well:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/06/china-new-silk-road-explainer/

China and Iran are appointed as the new global centres, while Iran is way behind the schedule, China has everything it needs to dethrone the US
the time has not come yet, let us wait and see how the things evolve
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