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November 10, 2011, 03:00:56 PM
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All info and pictures at http://www.intervalworld.com/web/cs?a=1503&resortCode=HAN&parentResortCode=HAN.

Just over 14 hours to go, high bid is currently 30 btc! This could go for peanuts!

Can I resell this? I know someone who sell's timeshares, she may be interested.

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November 10, 2011, 07:59:50 PM
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ok, since no one seems to want it, I'll bid 40 BTC.

Shoot me a PM if I'm the lucky one here.
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November 10, 2011, 07:59:57 PM
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I bid up to 36 BTC

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November 10, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
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omfg why did I not see this thread

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November 10, 2011, 08:18:24 PM
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Wouldn't have antares won with his bid of 40 BTC?

Regardless, I'm super-jealous of the cheap vacation.  If it wasn't for airline tickets being so spendy to match, I would've definitely bid on it!
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November 10, 2011, 08:24:18 PM
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SgtSpike,

My initial bid was BTC 35...
However, Inaba posted a bid of "up to 100 BTC, 1 BTC higher than the highest bid" 2 sec before the end of the auction, which isnt a real bid imho. He then edited his bit to be 36, so I was a tiny bit frustrated because of his way and put mine up to 40...

so he in fact won, however not in a fair way.
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November 10, 2011, 08:34:07 PM
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SgtSpike,

My initial bid was BTC 35...
However, Inaba posted a bid of "up to 100 BTC, 1 BTC higher than the highest bid" 2 sec before the end of the auction, which isnt a real bid imho. He then edited his bit to be 36, so I was a tiny bit frustrated because of his way and put mine up to 40...

so he in fact won, however not in a fair way.

Wow, totally unfair. I watched this whole thing unfold.

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November 10, 2011, 08:34:42 PM
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Hey there, sure you want to take Inaba's offer? he edited his bid after the end of the auction.(which is why I adapted mine)

Sorry, I have to make this accusation public. What did he edit it from and is there a way to look at pre-edited messages? This was perhaps not the best format for this auction.

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November 10, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
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SgtSpike,

My initial bid was BTC 35...
However, Inaba posted a bid of "up to 100 BTC, 1 BTC higher than the highest bid" 2 sec before the end of the auction, which isnt a real bid imho. He then edited his bit to be 36, so I was a tiny bit frustrated because of his way and put mine up to 40...

so he in fact won, however not in a fair way.
Yikes!  Sorry...  Sad
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November 10, 2011, 08:38:54 PM
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SgtSpike,

My initial bid was BTC 35...
However, Inaba posted a bid of "up to 100 BTC, 1 BTC higher than the highest bid" 2 sec before the end of the auction, which isnt a real bid imho. He then edited his bit to be 36, so I was a tiny bit frustrated because of his way and put mine up to 40...

so he in fact won, however not in a fair way.

Wow, totally unfair. I watched this whole thing unfold.

Okay, this was not a good format for this auction, as I was not able to watch during the last few minutes and messages are editable.

Those who did see this unfold, what do you think is a fair way to resolve this?

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November 10, 2011, 08:40:30 PM
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hi there,

I posted my initial bid of 35 at 7:59:50 PM UTC.
He posted his up to bid 7:59:57 PM UTC
he edited his bid 8:01:something PM UTC to 36 BTC.
I then edited mine like 2 or 3 minutes afterwards to 40. I guess a mod or something could clear this up for you, afair there's no history over edits that can be publicly seen.

As for unfolding this - I think it's your decision on how to resolve it. (btw 40 still stands :-)).
So whatever you decide, no bad feelings at least from my side.
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November 10, 2011, 08:42:52 PM
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SgtSpike,

My initial bid was BTC 35...
However, Inaba posted a bid of "up to 100 BTC, 1 BTC higher than the highest bid" 2 sec before the end of the auction, which isnt a real bid imho. He then edited his bit to be 36, so I was a tiny bit frustrated because of his way and put mine up to 40...

so he in fact won, however not in a fair way.

Wow, totally unfair. I watched this whole thing unfold.

Okay, this was not a good format for this auction, as I was not able to watch during the last few minutes and messages are editable.

Those who did see this unfold, what do you think is a fair way to resolve this?

It's totally your decision how you want to proceed. it was a fair auction, and Im sure no one will disagree with you if you let the current winner stand.
That being said, if you do want to change the outcome, I would think the fairest way is to hold a private auction between the 2-3 top bidders.

Again, just a thought  Cheesy

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November 10, 2011, 08:51:13 PM
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imo if people want to fight over the price right now, keep going until people aren't willing to pay more.

you really can't do timed auctions when theres a 20 second wait for posting and when people can edit their posts.

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November 10, 2011, 08:57:44 PM
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to be honest, I wondered why the forum CMS doesnt show editing.
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November 10, 2011, 09:01:16 PM
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As I can see both sides to this, I'm going to settle it with a quick silent auction open to everyone.

Highest bid by PM to me by 22:00 (approximately 1 hour from now) wins. Bids must be in the form of a whole number of BTC, not bidnapper type bids, and you will pay the actual amount you have bid.

If no one bids higher than antares' 40 BTC, it is Antares' for 40 BTC.

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November 10, 2011, 09:07:36 PM
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Umm, no.  I won the auction.  The auction closed at 20:00 UTC.  My original bid was UP TO 66 BTC at 1 BTC over the high bidder.  In either case, I won the auction at either 66 BTC or 35 BTC.

You "re-opening" it because you don't want the price stated is completely bogus.  I edited my message because it was more clear that way.  In either case, I had the last bid and it was higher than the previous high bidder.

If you continue with this, I will report it as a scam auction, plain and simple, as that's what it is.


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November 10, 2011, 09:08:37 PM
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So just send him your silent bid at 66 BTC.
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November 10, 2011, 09:11:40 PM
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No I will not.  First of all, it's not a silent bid then, is it?  

Second of all, the rules of the auction were clearly stated.  It didn't go for enough, so he decided to "reopen it" until it did.  If that's the case, and he was going to continue the auction until he gets the price he wants, he should have made it clear in the auction to begin with, not let the auction continue for days under a pretense.

Frankly, I expected better from Jeremy.


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November 10, 2011, 09:12:03 PM
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Umm, no.  I won the auction.  The auction closed at 20:00 UTC.  My original bid was UP TO 66 BTC at 1 BTC over the high bidder.  In either case, I won the auction at either 66 BTC or 35 BTC.

You "re-opening" it because you don't want the price stated is completely bogus.  I edited my message because it was more clear that way.  In either case, I had the last bid and it was higher than the previous high bidder.

If you continue with this, I will report it as a scam auction, plain and simple, as that's what it is.
Lol, I don't think anyone will agree with you there.

Bidding "one higher than the highest bid" is kind of sketchy to start with, and not the same rules that anyone else was bidding under.  You were supposed to bid a single BTC amount, not "everything between 35 BTC and 66 BTC, but as low as possible".  Sorry, but I would side with Jeremy on that argument.
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November 10, 2011, 09:14:16 PM
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Umm, no.  I won the auction.  The auction closed at 20:00 UTC.  My original bid was UP TO 66 BTC at 1 BTC over the high bidder.  In either case, I won the auction at either 66 BTC or 35 BTC.

You "re-opening" it because you don't want the price stated is completely bogus.  I edited my message because it was more clear that way.  In either case, I had the last bid and it was higher than the previous high bidder.

If you continue with this, I will report it as a scam auction, plain and simple, as that's what it is.
Lol, I don't think anyone will agree with you there.

Bidding "one higher than the highest bid" is kind of sketchy to start with, and not the same rules that anyone else was bidding under.  You were supposed to bid a single BTC amount, not "everything between 35 BTC and 66 BTC, but as low as possible".  Sorry, but I would side with Jeremy on that argument.

So show me where that is not allowed?  Every other auction site I've ever posted on works that way, why would I expect this one to be different?

But in EITHER CASE the high bid was MORE than 35 BTC or 40 BTC.  So in EITHER CASE my bid was the high bid when the auction closed.

Everyone was bidding under the same rules, it's not my fault others chose to ignore the rules they find inconvenient.

For the record, I did not bid "one high than the highest bid" I bid "one more BTC higher than the highest bid UP TO 66 BTC" if someone had bid 66 BTC, my bid would be invalidated.  Even if that were not the case, some asshole could come along and bid 10,000 BTC and I'd be stuck having to pay 10,001 BTC.  I'm sure there'd be no complaining then.


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