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December 04, 2018, 03:19:19 AM
Last edit: December 05, 2018, 10:05:14 PM by ICOEthics
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What happened: FAKE TEAM - Stealing people's identity -

*** RESOLVED WITHOUT ANY ISSUES / VIDEO OF THE TEAM UPLOADED (EDITED 05/12/2018) ***

Profile Link:
ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079706.0 (deleted)
http://web.archive.org/web/20181204030839/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079706.0

ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5078085.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20181204031435/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5078085.0


Website: https://tokrex.org/

The rest of the team needs to be researched
POST EDITED (04/12/2018)

TEAM IMAGES REMOVED (EDITED 05/12/2018)


FAKE NAME: Alexander Saizew IMAGE REMOVED (EDITED 05/12/2018)
REAL NAME: Viacheslav Shatunov - LEFT THE PROJECT (EDITED 05/12/2018)
https://www.instagram.com/shatunov_viacheslav/
http://www.pictame.com/user/shatunov_viacheslav/1559795628/1799374055960541176_1559795628
http://www.pictame.com/media/1524076235214592027_1559795628
http://www.pictame.com/media/1382642452900447152_1559795628



IMAGE REMOVED - a video was uploaded (EDITED 04/12/2018)
FAKE NAME: Igor Pawlow fixed on their website
REAL NAME: Edward Keshabyan - video uploaded - accepted
https://vkfaces.com/vk/user/edward_kes
https://www.avito.ru/novomihaylovskiy_kp/rezume/dizayner._proektirovschik._vizualizator._arhitektor_1206902958


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December 04, 2018, 07:47:08 AM
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Check this 42 minutes long video --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBm61Cb1Hpg
Tokrex founder is talking about project.
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December 04, 2018, 01:38:20 PM
Last edit: December 04, 2018, 02:40:36 PM by ICOEthics
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Check this 42 minutes long video --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBm61Cb1Hpg
Tokrex founder is talking about project.


Thank you for posting the video.. It appears to be one 1 man show - It is easy for one person to take a lead, steal other people's image, make a 42 minutes long video, and a bunch of people will believe. But we need more than that to convince us they are real, especially after caught with fake team members.

We didnt research the whole team yet, but the first two we picked are fake.

1 - There are no links provided to the team member's profile. There are links to Indorse but we dont endorse Indorse.io - never heard of them.
2 - There are fake team members:

One of them is an architect and you can see on his profile: Area of operation= Construction.
The picture posted on their website can be found on his VK Profile - go to picture 25/50 and the same image is there

REAL NAME: Edward Keshabyan
https://vkfaces.com/vk/user/edward_kes

The other team member you can see that the name is not the same either.
There are many photos on his profile. Cant find the same matching picture, but face recognition matched 99.9%.
We tried many photos and all of them matched. We posted here just a few. The only explanation is if he has a twin brother.

REAL NAME: Viacheslav Shatunov
https://www.instagram.com/shatunov_viacheslav/

We consider stealing someone's identity a serious offense - Crime - and we categorized as a scam.

We left a message for them on their ANN Post and we are waiting for them to come here and try to explain this accusation.
We also contacted the person who created this other topic on behalf of this ICO project and warned about this situation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079706.0 (the person deleted the post).

We want to see a video of the rest of the team talking about this project- including the ones with a fake name.



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December 04, 2018, 04:27:44 PM
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Quote from: tokrexOrg
Clarification.
ICOEthic has detected a legitimate error on our website. Our web developer has misspelled four names on our website. The founder Thomas M. Mayer and the director Tatjana Bespalova clarify the topic with ICOEthic. We are happy to provide video proof of all team members of the Tokrex team.

The following names were not spelled correctly on the website:

Nikolay Datsyuk
Viacheslav Shatunov
Edward Keshabyan
Irina Kulichevskaya

Our webmaster has written all Russian names incorrectly.

To protect the integrity of the project we archived the thread temporarily.

If the matter has been resolved with ICOEthic, we will reopen the thread.

This is reply of them in ANN thread, they locked thread so I cannot directly quote. They said "Our web developer has misspelled" but I don't know how to misspell Viacheslav Shatunov and Alexander Saizew.

Check this 42 minutes long video --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBm61Cb1Hpg
Tokrex founder is talking about project.

There is one person appear in this video, I think they should make a new video with appearance of 4 people who are "misspelled" name.
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December 04, 2018, 05:34:35 PM
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Hello ICOEhtic.

Thank you for your mail, which has made us aware of a serious mistake on our website. The project has been online since Friday, December 1st.

The names of the following team members were incorrectly stated on our website:

Nikolay Datsyuk
Viacheslav Shatunov
Edward Keshabyan
Irina Kulichevskaya

The photos of the team members are correct.

Our web developer has misspelled all Russian names on the website. He has inserted fancy names as placeholders on the website. He got the right names in Cyrillic. But he could not read the names. Therefore, he has inserted placeholders (the wrong names) in the translation files. He did not do it on purpose, but it was an accidental mistake.

Of course, we publish a video of our team members. Including the persons, you have identified as fake.

As the founder (Thomas M. Mayer, Founder), I have full responsibility for not having reviewed our website. Including the Foundation executives take full responsibility for not checking the page in the last three days (a weekend was in between).

We have corrected the names on our webpage. To be on the safe side, we archived the BitcoinTalk thread and will reactivate it if you agree.

I ask you to respect this to protect the integrity of the project. Since December 2016, the team has invested a lot of purpose and love in the project. In addition, we bear responsibility towards our lead investor.

Can you please clarify with which person you had contact and what the person deleted. Our ANN thread was created by the account tokrexOrg. At the direction of the executive team, our co-worker temporarily archived the thread today but did not delete any messages. As already mentioned, this was done to protect the project until the matter has been fully clarified.

Please be patient until we have created and uploaded the videos. We post the videos on this thread.


Best wishes from the
Executive Team of the Tokrex Foundation



Thomas M. Mayer (Founder, Applied Cryptography), Tetjana Bespalova (Executive Director), Christoph Mai (CS Mathematics)

As you can see in the photo, I hold a printout of your post. The photo is high resolution.
Link: https://tokrex.org/mediakit/TokrexExecutiveTeamPic.png

To learn more about the legitimacy of the Tokrex Foundation, please follow this link.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11611561

Note: We have just edited the post because the high-resolution image was not displayed correctly by BitcoinTalk.

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December 04, 2018, 07:05:20 PM
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Hello Tokrex Team

Thank you for explaining this situation and for uploading the picture.

Of course, we publish a video of our team members. Including the persons, you have identified as fake.

We will update our post once you provide a video of the team members - including the team members with wrong names.


Can you please clarify with which person you had contact and what the person deleted.

The post is deleted, but we archived it here:

ANN:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079706.0
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20181204030839/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079706.0


Please be patient until we have created and uploaded the videos. We post the videos on this thread.


Thank you, and we will be waiting for the video.


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December 04, 2018, 07:28:54 PM
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Many thanks for your response.

It is now night in Europe (8:14 pm). Anastassia will publish the videos on this thread tomorrow.

Also thanks for sharing the thread from the community member TonySon. This gives us the opportunity to clarify the matter with him tomorrow as well. If you agree.

Thank you again. Even if it is uncomfortable for us. We apologize for the inconvenience. But you're right, transparency is very important.

May I ask you until tomorrow to deactivate your image that calls my team a "Fake Team". So that we can protect the personal rights of our employees. That would be very nice of you. And I think it would be fair.

I think Viacheslav and Edward will not mind if you publish their social media photos by tomorrow.

Have a nice day,

best regards,

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December 04, 2018, 07:57:03 PM
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So that you see that we take the matter very seriously ...

Here is the video of Edward.

https://tokrex.org/mediakit/VID_20181204_220007.3gp

(the first "fake" person you identified)

It is a 3gp video that you can download at the link. Please leave us time until tomorrow so our Community Manager can upload the data.

I know that Edward's information was wrong too. He is an excellent UX designer. From his work, you can convince yourself in our story video.

We are checking our website very carefully now. Thank you very very for helping the Tokrex project.

Until tomorrow!

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Also thanks for sharing the thread from the community member TonySon. This gives us the opportunity to clarify the matter with him tomorrow as well. If you agree.


No problem.. Ask that person to read the updates on this post as well.



Thank you again. Even if it is uncomfortable for us. We apologize for the inconvenience. But you're right, transparency is very important.



We not here to damage the reputation of any serious/valid ICOs. We deal with situations like this on daily basis.


May I ask you until tomorrow to deactivate your image that calls my team a "Fake Team".

Yes, we replaced that image. Once you post the video tomorrow we will delete our comment on your ANN post as well.

Thank you.


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December 04, 2018, 08:12:45 PM
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So that you see that we take the matter very seriously ...

Here is the video of Edward.

https://tokrex.org/mediakit/VID_20181204_220007.3gp
Best regards,
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Hello Thomas,

Thank you for uploading the video of Edward. We accepted the video as an evidence and we did some updates on our post.

Tomorrow once we get the other video we will do a final update on our post.

Thank you.


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December 04, 2018, 10:04:47 PM
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Can you please clarify with which person you had contact and what the person deleted.
The post is deleted, but we archived it here:

ANN:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079706.0
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20181204030839/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079706.0
Actually, it is my fault, I reported thread to moderator because it looks like account spammed referral link hidden under link to tokrex site.

@tokrex thanks for uploading video, it is not something we see every day....unfortunately.
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it appears that the main thread is locked, hopefully the problem can be resolved quickly and continue the project until it really works, now many ico fail that this can be successful.
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December 05, 2018, 02:46:53 AM
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it appears that the main thread is locked, hopefully the problem can be resolved quickly and continue the project until it really works, now many ico fail that this can be successful.

I think it will be solved by tomorrow. They already uploaded one video.

So that you see that we take the matter very seriously ...

Here is the video of Edward.

https://tokrex.org/mediakit/VID_20181204_220007.3gp

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December 05, 2018, 05:48:47 PM
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Hi ICOEthics, hi everyone.

as announced here are the videos of all employees whose name was incorrectly stated on our website. Once again I would like to apologize in person to the community that I have not fulfilled my obligation to review our website before launching.

Nikoly:
Nikoly is a developer and involved in the implementation of the DKG subsystem. He was published under the false name Andrey Gromov.
   
Here is Nikolay's video:
https://tokrex.org/mediakit/video-Nikoly.mp4

https://tokrex.org/mediakit/video-Nikoly.mp4

(please download the file in case it does not play online)

Irina:
Irina is Community Manager at Tokrex. She was published under the wrong name Julia Kolev.

Here is Irina's video:
https://tokrex.org/mediakit/video-Irina.mp4
https://tokrex.org/mediakit/video-Irina.mp4

(please download the file in case it does not play online)

Edward:
Edward is UX Designer at Torkex. He was published under the wrong name "Igor Pavlov".

Here is Edward’s video:
https://tokrex.org/mediakit/VID_20181204_220007.3gp
https://tokrex.org/mediakit/VID_20181204_220007.3gp

(please download the file in case it does not play online)

Viacheslav:
Viacheslav is a developer at Tokrex and was involved in the development of the prototypes for FloorNet. He was published under the wrong name "Alexander Saizew".

In addition to his profession, Viacheslav is involved in a political organization in the Crimea. Viacheslav told me in a personal conversation a few minutes ago that a video statement in connection with cryptocurrencies is currently not beneficial to his political career (see his message). Since cryptocurrencies are "potentially illegal" in Russia (according to the Russian financial minister). He worries that the video will be distributed on the Internet and endanger his political career, which he wants to focus on. For this reason, Viacheslav does not want to communicate a public statement in connection with a cryptocurrency project at the moment. We would like to express that Viacheslav has worked on FloorNet. A system for a decentralized order matching and was not directly related to cryptocurrencies.

He allowed me to post the following pictures, which shows Viacheslav with Nikoly (see video above) while they were working on Tokrex. As proof of his identity in connection with Tokrex.





We apologize for the late post because Viacheslav said this morning that he would send his video. We just received a message from him that he wants to leave the project and focus on his new career.

A screenshot of Anastasiia's Viber Account and the message can be found here (Community Mananger, Anastasiia Mayer):



We respect his decision. We will replace Viacheslav with a new developer and remove his profile from our website.

The more important question is the status of the project. According to our plan, we will release the alpha version of Tokrex in January 2019. We are currently developing a stable alpha version from the prototypes (especially the Distributed Key Generator). We are on schedule. Please watch our project. We have scheduled the ICO for March 2019.

Please give us some feedback. I am available for your questions.

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Last edit: December 05, 2018, 09:33:07 PM by ICOEthics
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Hi ICOEthics, hi everyone.

as announced here are the videos of all employees whose name was incorrectly stated on our website.
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Best,
Thomas


Hello Thomas

Thank you for uploading the videos. We accept them as valid evidence.

Once you unlock your ANN post so we will remove our accusation message from there as well.

We will update this post and remove images. We appreciated very much your collaboration.


Thank you.







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December 05, 2018, 09:58:09 PM
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Hi ICOEthics,

Thank you for your cooperation. I understand the importance of your work very well. 

Tokrex's ANN thread is again unlocked. As soon as you remove your message, we will move the thread back into "Altcoin Announcements".

Thank you very much! And many greetings from the Tokrex Team.
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December 05, 2018, 10:08:54 PM
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Hello Thomas,

Thank you for letting us know that your thread is open again.

We just updated our post on your ANN thread.

We wish you good luck with your ICO Project.


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