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Author Topic: In an altcoin project, how many coins is too much?  (Read 368 times)
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December 01, 2018, 02:14:42 AM
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I do not like seeing coins with supplies that are just exuberant. Most times, such coins are just shitcoins and the developer is just looking for meanings to sell them and opt out. Such coins can easily be sold at 1 gwei by the developer and he will be  fine with it.
It's all decided by the developer and we have no right to interfere with it. This will greatly affect your investment if you keep it in the long run as we can not be sure what the project will do with the Token they have.
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December 01, 2018, 02:17:52 AM
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When the total supply that there is too much then this will make the price very low. How many blades where maybe that's standard everyone will be different. Amun if I then 300 million was already a significant number of coins and already have a low selling price. in bounty saw total existing supply important enough to determine the potential of the results that will be obtained.

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December 01, 2018, 03:16:35 AM
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Indeed, it needs to be considered how much supply and how many bids are made so that later you will not have too low a coin. There have been many different sectors making coins and this grows a lot of coins every time. We need to learn about supply and supply then demand so we are easy to draw conclusions from the value of the coin.

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December 01, 2018, 03:19:11 AM
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Total supply of a project is not what important that can decide token price, each project will have its total supply that the team calculate. What will decide token price is the quality of the project, so to investing in a new project, we don't need to put too much consider about total token supply.

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December 01, 2018, 03:24:47 AM
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all depends on the purpose of the project to be achieved, we cannot compare all projects just by looking at the quantity of coins they distribute. but for now there are several ranges that can be considered relevant enough for a project to survive. when we talk about 10,000,000,000,000 coins, that's a number that is too much. because of seeing the volatile crypto market situation, people's interest in buying new coins will decrease. so a figure of that size is a risky bet for a project.
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December 01, 2018, 03:26:25 AM
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The number of a coin depend on the strategy the developer is using or the purpose of the token , so having large number of token as total supply to me is still not have much effect to the price but it even gives room to more increase in the price than a very short supply .
For example if a coin is 21bln in total supply and compare to 21million of btc which means four fold of btc supply lime having 1:1000 but the price are will be different cause of the newly token and btc has been in the market for decade so if you work it out in a decade like btc the 1000token might worth what 1btc is when it was 10years old too.
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December 01, 2018, 03:31:20 AM
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Running a small little research around here.  For example, Bitcoin has (or will have) a total of 21 million coins, tops.  Litecoin seems it will have up to 84 million coins, total.

In your opinion, when a new altcoin is created, how many coins is just too much?  I have seen projects with like 10,000,000,000,000 coins.  That looks almost like... a spam coin :/
This varies greatly, the amount of supply for most Projects cannot be described. there are projects that provide little supply and there are also projects that provide a lot of supply. However, in the majority that most altcoins have a very large amount of supply.
you are right, but if the amount of up to 10,000,000,000,000 coins seems to be too much,
especially they don't prepare the good things to make their tokens valuable, i think it's almost the same as a garbage token.

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December 01, 2018, 04:15:26 AM
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I have seen projects with like 10,000,000,000,000 coins.  That looks almost like... a spam coin :/

It is indeed a spam coin. Initially, crypto is competing with fiat's unlimited supply and when a cryptocurrency ends up with higher supply than all the money in the world, that is more likely a garbage. You could see more it on ethereum network.

To mention the value of a coin, the lesser the total supply and the more the usage or utility the more valuable it would become.

Then me and my friends hit our first wall: How many coins, total supply?

Should coin amount issued be static and thats it, or should new additional coins be issued yearly? I mean, in the altcoin world it is very easy to create totally worthless s**tcoins...

You need to balance your coins amount to it's usage on your platform, you might end having having scarcity of the supply. It's okay to have an okay volume of supply, you could always burn some of it later if it is largely over on your platforms utility.
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December 01, 2018, 05:25:00 AM
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I have only a few altcoins because my level is still low and definitely has a small share. this depends on the altcoin distribution.
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December 01, 2018, 05:53:08 AM
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Thanks for all replies everyone!

Me and a couple friends have been working in the creation of some sites, some aimed at online marketing (where people can get referrals for wathever program, etc), and some sites aimed at games also.  We found we have this internal token type thing in the system to get perks and what not. Then we decided, why not create a token that could be taken beyond our platforms?

Then me and my friends hit our first wall: How many coins, total supply?

Should coin amount issued be static and thats it, or should new additional coins be issued yearly? I mean, in the altcoin world it is very easy to create totally worthless s**tcoins...

you have to try and predict how much your coin is going to be used and by how many people. then try to come up with a good supply design and supply distribution plan so that you don't create inflation and at the same time you don't crash your coin's price overnight and more importantly not to turn into a scam premined coin which you control majority of the supply!
and if you are stuck then you can always use bitcoin as a reference. it has 21 million, so choose either than or a smaller number unless you think your coin is going to be used more than bitcoin!

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December 01, 2018, 06:28:50 AM
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Running a small little research around here.  For example, Bitcoin has (or will have) a total of 21 million coins, tops.  Litecoin seems it will have up to 84 million coins, total.

In your opinion, when a new altcoin is created, how many coins is just too much?  I have seen projects with like 10,000,000,000,000 coins.  That looks almost like... a spam coin :/

Depends on the valuation. An ideal coin must be priced somewhere between $0.1 and $1.00. In case of Bitcoin, it is 4,000 times higher than the upper limit. This causes a reduction in the acceptability, since many newcomers may think that BTC is too expensive.
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December 01, 2018, 11:41:48 AM
Last edit: December 01, 2018, 11:52:26 AM by galactic123
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Hmmm...  I'm thinking in the (hypothetical) creation of an altcoin with a max supply of 500 million coins.  Should be plenty without falling on either "too little" or "too much" side of things.

Maybe with a premine of 1%  (5 million coins) for bounties, rewards, airdrops, and kickstarting things.

Coin to be used by at least two marketing sites, one browser videogame and potentially one blogging platform and maybe one casino.

Sounds better, worse, the same as most altcoins being pushed these days?

Thus far these questions are only research. Trying to establish plans for a half decent altcoin. Not expecting to make the next big thing, but at least make it valuable within a community with at least some use.

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... and if you are stuck then you can always use bitcoin as a reference. it has 21 million, so choose either than or a smaller number unless you think your coin is going to be used more than bitcoin!

The thought crossed my mind, but in the end I think that making 21 million coin supply or less can be a double edged sword.  Could potentially give the impression that I am trying to equate this new altcoin with bitcoin on a 1:1 ratio and many may find it "scammy" or maybe even "pretentious". Just my thoughts, though.

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December 01, 2018, 11:48:09 AM
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Running a small little research around here.  For example, Bitcoin has (or will have) a total of 21 million coins, tops.  Litecoin seems it will have up to 84 million coins, total.

In your opinion, when a new altcoin is created, how many coins is just too much?  I have seen projects with like 10,000,000,000,000 coins.  That looks almost like... a spam coin :/
The token supply is not really that important. But if it's too much, it will increase the chance for whales to easily manipulate that altcoin in the future. In addition, the oversupply of resources makes the values of the tokens lower and allows traders to hold more tokens.

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December 02, 2018, 06:20:05 PM
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I have seen coins with about 500 million supply. I don't mean anything until 500 million is alright but if it is 500 or more it might be too much. I think the max should be around 210 million coins which is fine if you ask me and it also depends on how well the coin was made.

For example, it is alright for dogecoin to be whatever it is, I don't know the max for dogecoin but I am sure it is 100 gazillion or something since you can get thousands of it for couple cents. That is fine for dogecoin because there wasn't really any "finance" logic behind it when it was first created, it was created to be a joke.

Reddcoin was about the same, when it first came out it was about reddit to begin with and was for upvotes and downvotes and of course the more the merrier. There are few like that but they are exceptions not rules.
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