UFC 231: Holloway vs Ortega Prediction and Info Thread

[CTO@MyBitMine]

I was so much wrong, Holloway really surprised me a lot, he looked too strong aftea a year without official fights. Ortega dissapointed me, he have a black belt in Jiu Jitsu but he didn't use it in this fight, he should been use his grappling skills from first round coz holloway too over powered at stance for him.

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[Kemarit]

I was so much wrong, Holloway really surprised me a lot, he looked too strong aftea a year without official fights. Ortega dissapointed me, he have a black belt in Jiu Jitsu but he didn't use it in this fight, he should been use his grappling skills from first round coz holloway too over powered at stance for him.

Ortega doesn't have a plan B. Obviously he wanted to go toe to toe and have a war with Holloway, but we saw that Max is overwhelming him with punches from round 1 and since he doesn't have a plan B, he continue to go and we all know that its just a matte of time before he was knock out or lost via stoppage which eventually happened. I agree that he has a lot of heart, but sometimes its better to have a fight plan and not try to used your strengths because you don't know if your opponents is better than you.

[CTO@MyBitMine]

I was so much wrong, Holloway really surprised me a lot, he looked too strong aftea a year without official fights. Ortega dissapointed me, he have a black belt in Jiu Jitsu but he didn't use it in this fight, he should been use his grappling skills from first round coz holloway too over powered at stance for him.

Ortega doesn't have a plan B. Obviously he wanted to go toe to toe and have a war with Holloway, but we saw that Max is overwhelming him with punches from round 1 and since he doesn't have a plan B, he continue to go and we all know that its just a matte of time before he was knock out or lost via stoppage which eventually happened. I agree that he has a lot of heart, but sometimes its better to have a fight plan and not try to used your strengths because you don't know if your opponents is better than you.

Ortega's plan B was takedown and submission, but he began use it only it 3rd round when he was tired and punched a lot, anyway Max's takedown defence also surprised me. Now I want to see Holloway in lightweight division.

[nydiacaskey01]

Ortega doesn't have a plan B. Obviously he wanted to go toe to toe and have a war with Holloway, but we saw that Max is overwhelming him with punches from round 1 and since he doesn't have a plan B, he continue to go and we all know that its just a matte of time before he was knock out or lost via stoppage which eventually happened. I agree that he has a lot of heart, but sometimes its better to have a fight plan and not try to used your strengths because you don't know if your opponents is better than you.

Max Holloway hits Brians Ortega's face with precision. His face is too open to be hit by the fast swings of Max Holloway. It's not what I expected out from Brian Ortega. You can see max throwing away 1 and 2 punch combination with ease and Brian Ortega at some point was not able to answer those punches. It's one of those matches where you can clearly see who will win and there's no reason for a rematch.

[btc_angela]

Ortega doesn't have a plan B. Obviously he wanted to go toe to toe and have a war with Holloway, but we saw that Max is overwhelming him with punches from round 1 and since he doesn't have a plan B, he continue to go and we all know that its just a matte of time before he was knock out or lost via stoppage which eventually happened. I agree that he has a lot of heart, but sometimes its better to have a fight plan and not try to used your strengths because you don't know if your opponents is better than you.

Max Holloway hits Brians Ortega's face with precision. His face is too open to be hit by the fast swings of Max Holloway. It's not what I expected out from Brian Ortega. You can see max throwing away 1 and 2 punch combination with ease and Brian Ortega at some point was not able to answer those punches. It's one of those matches where you can clearly see who will win and there's no reason for a rematch.

We can say that Brian was like a sitting duck that's waiting and being ambushed by Max anytime he wants. Brian has a tough chin though, but I don't think he needs to take that beatdown and I'm sure that he has been cracked already and maybe he was young that's why it holds but I don't think that he can take another match like that in his career otherwise he will be ruined early in UFC.

[bbc.reporter]

What Brian Ortega did not have was the head movement required to avoid or roll the punches. I reckon his boxing coach should teach him better next time. Brian was clearly not ready to fight Max in a striking game.

[Kemarit]

I was so much wrong, Holloway really surprised me a lot, he looked too strong aftea a year without official fights. Ortega dissapointed me, he have a black belt in Jiu Jitsu but he didn't use it in this fight, he should been use his grappling skills from first round coz holloway too over powered at stance for him.

Ortega doesn't have a plan B. Obviously he wanted to go toe to toe and have a war with Holloway, but we saw that Max is overwhelming him with punches from round 1 and since he doesn't have a plan B, he continue to go and we all know that its just a matte of time before he was knock out or lost via stoppage which eventually happened. I agree that he has a lot of heart, but sometimes its better to have a fight plan and not try to used your strengths because you don't know if your opponents is better than you.

Ortega's plan B was takedown and submission, but he began use it only it 3rd round when he was tired and punched a lot, anyway Max's takedown defence also surprised me. Now I want to see Holloway in lightweight division.

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, the first round was a total massacre. Everything went wrong with Brian but still he chooses to go toe to toe with Max which is very wrong. And even if he attempted take downs in the next couple of rounds, its too late because he got tired early from the beatings he got from Max plus Holloway has a got defense. And as @bbc.reporter have said, he has no head movement perhaps his coach didn't do his job or Brian thought that he can win a war with Holloway which is far better striker than him.