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December 06, 2018, 08:18:37 PM
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Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork


WEBSITE |WHITEPAPER | FACEBOOK | TWITTER  | MEDIUM


WHAT IS DEEPER NETWORK?

Deeper Network is a blockchain-powered all-in-one solution that provides true Internet freedom with enhanced security. Combining security, sharing, and blockchain, Deeper creates a new concept called SSS (Secure Shared Service) that enables open and secure Internet access and equal participation in mining.





Deeper Use Cases:

* Internet Censorship Circumvention
* Defense Against Cyber Attacks.
* Parental Control.
* Roaming Access.
* Profiting from Network Sharing.
* Blockchain Mining.
* DApp Store.



PoC Consensus Mechanism



The consensus mechanism supporting blockchain operation is decentralized, namely, there is no centralized function responsible for the whole system’s operation. Then how are transactions recorded and how are smart contracts implemented? The whole system runs automatically only when a large user population can efficiently reach consensus.Satoshi Nakamoto, the founder of Bitcoin, is long-gone from the Bitcoin scene yet the system is still running thanks to its crucial PoW consensus mechanism. However, traditional blockchain technologies are not without flaws. For example, Bitcoin and Ethereum achieved security and fairness with low efficiency and high energy consump62 tion. The recently launched EOS achieved high efficiency and low energy consumption by sacrificing the fairness of a decentralized system [30]. The consensus mechanism of an excellent decentralized system should have the following characteristics:
• High efficiency
• Low energy consumption
• Security
• Fairness
The echain based on our PoC consensus mechanism has all of the above characteristics.Therefore, we have every reason to believe that the echain will replace all of the currently popular blockchain technologies. After the launch of the echain mainnet,users can automatically perform echain mining by upgrading their Deeper Connect.
This means that anyone can access the core of the blockchain economy without wasting
time, effort nor money. We can offer all users both the benefits of a secure shared
network and of the blockchain economy.







               


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I liked your thread.Very informative thread.I like the project as well.
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December 07, 2018, 09:14:21 PM
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It is interesting and intriguing that you already have a working project. Nonetheless I am wondering how are you going to avoid all the scalability issues that arise from using the ETH network? And this leads me to try to understand how you will handle payments to avoid big gas fees and how Deeper Network will use its incentivation layer?
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What will be the cost of these machines? Are there minima requirement to be
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I understand that Mainframe is working on a Peer to Peer architecture similar to the Torrent servers making use of any IoT device. In contrast you are using what I understand are Deeper Wire devices to keep the network active. Is this an advantage or a disadvantage? I am thinking if users necessarily have to have this device in order to access this private network.
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Your project seems very interesting, I would like to know more details about how your technology is superior to other competing projects, like Mainframe or Maidsafecoin. What does it make you unique? And could you contrast your own technology with the technology of these other projects?
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What will be the cost of these machines? Are there minima requirement to be

We are trying to make the device  free, we have some approach to do this:

1, We use our money to provide free devices to our users.
2, User can run our AtomOS on any OEM device such as Raspberry PI or even lower end device, like this Orange PI:
https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/08/18/14-orange-pi-r1-allwinner-h2-board-comes-with-two-ethernet-ports-256-mb-ram/
3, We have DeeperConnect VM version can run on any PC.

Now we are working on the approach 1.  100 free public devices will be offered soon and then next 1,000...

Thanks,
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I understand that Mainframe is working on a Peer to Peer architecture similar to the Torrent servers making use of any IoT device. In contrast you are using what I understand are Deeper Wire devices to keep the network active. Is this an advantage or a disadvantage? I am thinking if users necessarily have to have this device in order to access this private network.

This is a good question.

First, our design philosophy is different with Mainframe. Mainframe is trying to build a new blockchain based network stack. New application have to use their stack to benefit their technology.
What we are doing is using the blockchain to protect the current network asset first. Every user and application can get benefit from Deeper immediately.  We prefer a smooth evolution to the Internet. Please check the white paper about our 3 steps plan.

Second, DeeperConnect(Yes, we changed the product name) is an all-in-one solution and is designed as plug and play and zero configuration
We assume our users don't have strong background of block chain and security,DeeperConnect will do everything for you.

Think about it:
1, You don't need to install software on different platforms such as Windows, Mac, Android to get a secure and free access to the Internet.
    Once DeeperConnect is plugged and everything is done. Time is money, this device can save you a lot of time!

2, This device is quiet and has extremely low power consumption (5 W as an iphone charger) but it can offer 1Gbps NGFW traffic protection, sharing service and PoC mining service.
    The cost of power consumption of your PC is much more expensive than the total cost of this device.

3, You want to a free, secure, private connection, but how to make sure your PC is safe enough? As you know, many organization has tons of zero day exploit tools to hack any traditional operating system such as Windows, MacOS, IOS and Android.  Our AtomOS is world most powerful security OS, it not only protects your devices but also it will protect itself.

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Your project seems very interesting, I would like to know more details about how your technology is superior to other competing projects, like Mainframe or Maidsafecoin. What does it make you unique? And could you contrast your own technology with the technology of these other projects?

Hi Kelley,

Deeper shares the same value as Mainframe and other similar project.
We are unique because we provide all-in-one solution that combine security, sharing and blockchain.
Think about the difference between the iphone and dumb phones.
Iphones also have a lot of similar functions and concepts that the dumb phones have.
But iphone works very smoothly to bring you to the mobile Internet.
So is DeeperConnect,  it  make the complicate security and blockchain technology very easy to use.
You are protected and benefited just by plug-and-play, and then you will find the door to the next generation trusted Internet is open.

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I will try anything that is free so sign me up.

Will it wash my dirty dishes and do laundry?
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I will try anything that is free so sign me up.

Will it wash my dirty dishes and do laundry?


This device can earn money for you, so the answer is: Yes, it will!  Roll Eyes
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I believe that this project has great potential if it manages to fulfill its own expectations: being fully functional and provide the privacy that the Internet currently lacks of. Internet privacy is a big issue right now and real technological breakthroughs could help users recovered part of the lost ground regarding privacy.
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Is Deeper Network planning to build its own chain or could it use other coming scalable chains like Zilliqa, Dfinity, ETH?
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Do you have bounty? I love to join your bounty.
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WEBSITE |WHITEPAPER | FACEBOOK | TWITTER  | MEDIUM


WHAT IS DEEPER NETWORK?

Deeper Network is a blockchain-powered all-in-one solution that provides true Internet freedom with enhanced security. Combining security, sharing, and blockchain, Deeper creates a new concept called SSS (Secure Shared Service) that enables open and secure Internet access and equal participation in mining.





Deeper Use Cases:

* Internet Censorship Circumvention
* Defense Against Cyber Attacks.
* Parental Control.
* Roaming Access.
* Profiting from Network Sharing.
* Blockchain Mining.
* DApp Store.



PoC Consensus Mechanism



The consensus mechanism supporting blockchain operation is decentralized, namely, there is no centralized function responsible for the whole system’s operation. Then how are transactions recorded and how are smart contracts implemented? The whole system runs automatically only when a large user population can efficiently reach consensus.Satoshi Nakamoto, the founder of Bitcoin, is long-gone from the Bitcoin scene yet the system is still running thanks to its crucial PoW consensus mechanism. However, traditional blockchain technologies are not without flaws. For example, Bitcoin and Ethereum achieved security and fairness with low efficiency and high energy consump62 tion. The recently launched EOS achieved high efficiency and low energy consumption by sacrificing the fairness of a decentralized system [30]. The consensus mechanism of an excellent decentralized system should have the following characteristics:
• High efficiency
• Low energy consumption
• Security
• Fairness
The echain based on our PoC consensus mechanism has all of the above characteristics.Therefore, we have every reason to believe that the echain will replace all of the currently popular blockchain technologies. After the launch of the echain mainnet,users can automatically perform echain mining by upgrading their Deeper Connect.
This means that anyone can access the core of the blockchain economy without wasting
time, effort nor money. We can offer all users both the benefits of a secure shared
network and of the blockchain economy.







                 


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How can I earn money from deeper and how it will cost?
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What are advantages and disadvantages or using hardware instead of just relying on computers, cellphones or IoT devices like other projects plan to do?

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Is Deeper Network planning to build its own chain or could it use other coming scalable chains like Zilliqa, Dfinity, ETH?

What a good question...

Yes, we are building our e^2 chain which adapts Deeper's PoC consensus mechanism.
Unlike PoW and PoS,  PoC guarantee every Deeper Connect has the equal chance to mine the DPRs.

Now we are using the substrate to implement our e^2 chain. We will implement PoC and sharding based on it.

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Do you have bounty? I love to join your bounty.

Yes, we have bounty and IDO program. We prepare 5% tokens for the core users who helps us to build our security ecosystem. We consider the core users as Deeper team members.
For example, if you report bugs, provide some unknown application traffic and some suspicious URLs, we will offer you a lot of DPRs.

Please join our telegram channel to get these information.

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Russell
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How can I earn money from deeper and how it will cost?

You can earn DPRs by sharing your bandwidth/WIFI/storage/computing power or mining on the e^2 chain.
e^2 chain is using PoC consensus mechanism which is world first truly decentralized public chain.


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Looks promising  Smiley but please correct that 'Septmeber 2018' typo in the Roadmap as it hurts my eyes Cheesy

Would love to test this device in my home network!
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It is interesting and intriguing that you already have a working project. Nonetheless I am wondering how are you going to avoid all the scalability issues that arise from using the ETH network? And this leads me to try to understand how you will handle payments to avoid big gas fees and how Deeper Network will use its incentivation layer?

This is a very good question.

For scalability issue:

1. Initially, the project is based on ETH network. Probabilistic micropayment is adopted.
a. It avoids frequent ETH transactions.
b. It avoids the big gas fee.

2. We are going to launch our own public chain (e^2 chain) which are constituted by Deeper Connect.
a. Based on sharding technology, e square chain can solve the scalability. In this way, the salability issue can be solved in the long run.
b. After the launch of e^2 chain, we can avoid the gas fee on ethereum.

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What are advantages and disadvantages or using hardware instead of just relying on computers, cellphones or IoT devices like other projects plan to do?

Relying traffic on a PC, the power consumption cost will be much more expensive than the cost of a Deeper Connect. DeeperConnect's scenario design power is 5W and it is very cheap even free for our core users.
Relying traffic on a cellphone? Come on, think about your battery's life. DeeperConnect can provide roaming protect for all your mobile devices.

DeeperConnect is more than a traffic relying device, it is a next generation firewall which can protect all your devicesdeeply  by a simple plug-and-play. And it is also a high efficient miner which can mine a truly decentralized public block chain - e^2 chain.

Our next interesting project is DeeperConnect - WiFi,  it has all the functions DeeperConnect has and it can replace the traditional wireless routers. By DeeperConnect - WiFi, actually you don't need to install an extra device since you at least need a wireless router at home. So why not DeeperConnect, it is cheap even free, but it is so powerful...

And please also refer my answers of another question, I hope it can give you a clear clue:

1, You don't need to install software on different platforms such as Windows, Mac, Android to get a secure and free access to the Internet.
    Once DeeperConnect is plugged and everything is done. Every device behind it will be taken care. Time is money, this device can save you a lot of time!

2, This device is quiet and has extremely low power consumption (5 W, same as an iphone charger) but it can offer 1Gbps NGFW traffic protection, sharing service and PoC mining service.
    The cost of power consumption of your PC is much more expensive than the total cost of this device.

3, You want to a free, secure, private connection, but how to make sure your PC or smart phone is safe enough? As you know, many organization has tons of zero day exploit tools to hack any traditional operating system such as Windows, MacOS, IOS and Android.  Our AtomOS is world most powerful security OS, it not only protects your devices but also it will protect itself.

Thanks,
Russell
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Looks promising  Smiley but please correct that 'Septmeber 2018' typo in the Roadmap as it hurts my eyes Cheesy

Would love to test this device in my home network!

You are the first person to figure this out.
Please leave your eth address, we will send 10,000 DPRs to you before 2019.

And welcome to our telegram channel...

Thanks,
Russell
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This is one of the most substantial whitepapers I've encountered here. The one who wrote this might have experienced in thesis writing as it is a well-referenced paper also. If they put so much effort in creating this document, then, it is saying something positive for the dev team. They are sincere on this project. But are you going to stay anonymous?

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This is one of the most substantial whitepapers I've encountered here. The one who wrote this might have experienced in thesis writing as it is a well-referenced paper also. If they put so much effort in creating this document, then, it is saying something positive for the dev team. They are sincere on this project. But are you going to stay anonymous?

We prefers to use our code to talk just like Satoshi did. Please don't care about who we are, we are blockchain believers just like you.
Our public test is coming soon, if you are interested, please join our telegram channel. 100 devices will be sent out as a free new year gift.

Thanks,
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This is one of the most substantial whitepapers I've encountered here. The one who wrote this might have experienced in thesis writing as it is a well-referenced paper also. If they put so much effort in creating this document, then, it is saying something positive for the dev team. They are sincere on this project. But are you going to stay anonymous?
Absolutely! We've put tons of effort into developing our software/hardware. We are excited about this project as it is the first blockchain project (as far as we know) that aims for real-world use case and massive adoption of the blockchain technology via hardware deployment. You can always reach us in our Telegram channel. Feel free to communicate and it does not matter if we stay anonymous or not.
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What are advantages and disadvantages or using hardware instead of just relying on computers, cellphones or IoT devices like other projects plan to do?
This is indeed a good question. Here's the main advantage:
You can think of our device, Deeper Connect, as a hardware security firewall sitting besides your Wifi router at home (it will eventually replace your Wifi router once we release our next product Deeper Connect - Wifi version). I suppose you never want to turn off your Wifi router at home. Therefore, Deeper Connect should be a 24/7 on device that provides security protects to your home network, allows you open access to any Internet content w/o being censored, and protects your privacy while using the Internet. Besides that, Deeper Connect will run our own blockchain called e^2 chain and earn you Deeper tokens (DPR). If your router will be on 24/7 anyway, why not run a blockchain on it and mine tokens. The power consumption of Deeper Connect can be as low as 5W since e^2 chain uses a different consensus algorithm called PoC (Proof of Credit) that is different from Bitcoin's PoW. You simply don't need to compete hashing power with other nodes.

Computers and cellphones are not reliable 24/7, plus it's not worth it if you compare their power consumption with Deeper Connect. IoT devices normally does not have that computing power to run a blockchain. Deeper Connect has a embedded CPU! In fact, IoT devices at your home (e.g., camera) should join Deeper Network to get security protection and avoid data leakage.
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You are the first person to figure this out.
Please leave your eth address, we will send 10,000 DPRs to you before 2019.

And welcome to our telegram channel...

Thanks,
Russell

Hi Russel, wow thanks for the free DPRs, that's awesome Cheesy
I will pm you my eth address in a minute. Thanks again Smiley

update: I can't send PM's (yet) because of my newbie status so here's the address Smiley
0x0f653ddB7b9CBdA68E8484E5b806784e1C513aF7
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Hi, nice project, good job! How can I get your tokens? In which exchange will you list your tokens?
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Allrighty, we like what we see, however what youre showing seems to me like a prototype, still. So I wonder when are we going to see a live test for your equipments ?
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Allrighty, we like what we see, however what youre showing seems to me like a prototype, still. So I wonder when are we going to see a live test for your equipments ?


The device is almost ready for real users.
We already started to recruit the first 100 core users in our telegram channel. Please join the channel to become the first 100 users.
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork
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Allrighty, we like what we see, however what youre showing seems to me like a prototype, still. So I wonder when are we going to see a live test for your equipments ?

http://deepernetwork.net/pics/a7823ada-9863-43a0-8be7-f2b1892d87dd.png
The device is almost ready for real users.
We already started to recruit the first 100 core users in our telegram channel. Please join the channel to become the first 100 users.
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork


It is amazing.. Grin
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Just one question about the project, what is the purpose of the token when the goal is develop a machine that is important for internet security and apparently act as a mining rig too?
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Just one question about the project, what is the purpose of the token when the goal is develop a machine that is important for internet security and apparently act as a mining rig too?

Deeper project has several stages.
The first stage is online bandwidth sharing platform. We use tokens as general equivalent for bandwidth exchange.
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Its looked very good, have a chance to give it a try
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Its looked very good, have a chance to give it a try

Please join our telegram channel:
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork

We are recruiting our first 100 core users.
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Its looked very good, have a chance to give it a try

Please join our telegram channel:
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork

We are recruiting our first 100 core users.

Nice, I just join the telegram channel. Already over 20k users. Growing so fast !. Shocked
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Its looked very good, have a chance to give it a try

Please join our telegram channel:
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork

We are recruiting our first 100 core users.

Nice, I just join the telegram channel. Already over 20k users. Growing so fast !. Shocked

We are so happy that you join us.
Deeper Network means next generation Internet with Deeper Security, Deeper Freedom and Deeper Intelligence. Let's make it happen together.
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Its looked very good, have a chance to give it a try

Please join our telegram channel:
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork

We are recruiting our first 100 core users.

Nice, I just join the telegram channel. Already over 20k users. Growing so fast !. Shocked

We are so happy that join us.
Deeper Network means next generation Internet with Deeper Security, Deeper Freedom and Deeper Intelligence. Let's make it happen together.

I have already joined the telegram channel, see many people in the channel. waiting for your good news!
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I love this network system and tension free SSS.
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I love this network system and tension free SSS.

Thank you, please join our telegram channel to get more information about SSS.
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Yes. Welcome to join our telegram channel. There are over 20k users in our community now.
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Hi, Deeper:

Is it easy to use your device to start mining, privacy protection or even censorship circumvention?

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Hi, Deeper:

Is it easy to use your device to start mining, privacy protection or even censorship circumvention?



Deeper Connect is plug and play device. It is very easy to use!
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December 19, 2018, 06:03:44 AM
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We are recruiting Global Ambassadors & Core Users:

http://bit.ly/2EpTn69

We will go through the first phase of member selection, but more promotions are coming! Keep an eye on the channel!

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December 19, 2018, 11:23:32 PM
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Welcome everyone to join our core users. Cheesy
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Welcome everyone to join our core users. Cheesy

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We are recruiting Global Ambassadors & Core Users:

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December 20, 2018, 08:10:29 PM
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I am very interested in this project. I would like to know more about PoC.
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December 20, 2018, 11:48:41 PM
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I am very interested in this project. I would like to know more about PoC.

Very welcome. Our website is https://deeper.network/

It has much more info.
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December 21, 2018, 08:33:16 AM
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I am very interested in this project. I would like to know more about PoC.

Please refer the white paper PoC part:
https://deeper.network/assets/pdf/whitepaper/Deeper-WP-EN-1130.pdf
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December 21, 2018, 06:33:42 PM
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I am very interested in this project. I would like to know more about PoC.

Please refer the white paper PoC part:
https://deeper.network/assets/pdf/whitepaper/Deeper-WP-EN-1130.pdf

I have read your white paper.

One of the most professional whitepapers I have come across in long time.

You guys really did a good job.
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December 21, 2018, 11:46:40 PM
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Good and nice I think it will booooom. Wink
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Good and nice I think it will booooom. Wink

Thanks. BTW, welcome to join our telegram community.
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January 19, 2019, 07:18:03 PM
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I am very excited about this project, but my main concern regarding this private Internet connection is the exit node. We know that exit nodes are always areas of vulnerability for privacy. Considering that some users will have to use hardware to keep your private network active, I am wondering to what extent this might be a risk for them.

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January 19, 2019, 07:32:14 PM
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Is this a mesh network project?
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January 20, 2019, 12:35:19 PM
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Very interesting project. I hope this project will bring some real use cases for crypto tokens. I see that unlike most of the hyped-up projects in the days of ICO fever, you have a working product. The market has been so bad lately and there has been so much capital destruction. People have lost hope in ICOs and crypto in general. We need to reinvent the market and stop paying attention to the projects with rockstars that deliver nothing. Some of those projects are at the top 10 in market cap. We need to pay attention to real projects with an ethical and hardworking crew.
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January 20, 2019, 12:53:29 PM
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When do you plan to have your token on exchanges? Do you plan to hit up any crypto exchanges like Binance, KuCoin or Huobi?
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January 21, 2019, 06:00:22 PM
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Hello, although I’m interested in your project, I would like to know more about the brains behind it… I mean, who is the developing team, you know, their experience and credentials in this industry.
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January 31, 2019, 05:39:01 PM
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I am very excited about this project, but my main concern regarding this private Internet connection is the exit node. We know that exit nodes are always areas of vulnerability for privacy. Considering that some users will have to use hardware to keep your private network active, I am wondering to what extent this might be a risk for them. 
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February 02, 2019, 12:03:04 AM
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I am very excited about this project, but my main concern regarding this private Internet connection is the exit node. We know that exit nodes are always areas of vulnerability for privacy. Considering that some users will have to use hardware to keep your private network active, I am wondering to what extent this might be a risk for them. 
This is a very good question. We already have the solution to eliminate the risk for users.
In AtomOS, we do NAT for every connection, for the connections from other users, AtomOS will assign them a specified range source port such as ( 60000~65534). This can help user to clarify the bad traffic is from others instead of himself.
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February 02, 2019, 07:25:11 PM
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Very interesting project. I hope this project will bring some real use cases for crypto tokens. I see that unlike most of the hyped-up projects in the days of ICO fever, you have a working product. The market has been so bad lately and there has been so much capital destruction. People have lost hope in ICOs and crypto in general. We need to reinvent the market and stop paying attention to the projects with rockstars that deliver nothing. Some of those projects are at the top 10 in market cap. We need to pay attention to real projects with an ethical and hardworking crew.
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February 02, 2019, 08:56:25 PM
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Hello, although I’m interested in your project, I would like to know more about the brains behind it… I mean, who is the developing team, you know, their experience and credentials in this industry.
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February 03, 2019, 09:59:30 AM
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Is this a mesh network project?

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February 04, 2019, 08:10:29 PM
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Could you create a Medium article explaining your tunneling technologies (AtomOS) to the man on the street? I kind of understand that you have designed them to circumvent censorship and to ensure the high performance and scalability of the system. But I still haven’t connected all the dots. I guess most people interested in privacy would like to know how they will be better than VP technologies which are always open to exploitation.
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February 07, 2019, 06:28:24 AM
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Is this a mesh network project?

Yes, it will be. AtomOS 2.0 will introduce peer routing to create a mesh network.
AtomOS 1.x only provide end to end secure connection to customers.
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February 07, 2019, 06:33:58 AM
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Very interesting project. I hope this project will bring some real use cases for crypto tokens. I see that unlike most of the hyped-up projects in the days of ICO fever, you have a working product. The market has been so bad lately and there has been so much capital destruction. People have lost hope in ICOs and crypto in general. We need to reinvent the market and stop paying attention to the projects with rockstars that deliver nothing. Some of those projects are at the top 10 in market cap. We need to pay attention to real projects with an ethical and hardworking crew.

I agree. Product first is Deeper's style. If anyone who want to get a free or buy a  Deeper Connect, please join our telegram channel.
You will see how our product to provide a free and secure Internet connection to our users.
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February 07, 2019, 06:43:30 AM
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Could you create a Medium article explaining your tunneling technologies (AtomOS) to the man on the street? I kind of understand that you have designed them to circumvent censorship and to ensure the high performance and scalability of the system. But I still haven’t connected all the dots. I guess most people interested in privacy would like to know how they will be better than VP technologies which are always open to exploitation.

In short, unlike VPN vendors, Deeper doesn't provide service, all Deeper Connect users can use trident protocol of AtomOS to connect each other to make a free and secure network.

You can refer this article to get a brief view of Deeper:
https://medium.com/@deeper.network/deeper-connect-private-and-secure-internet-for-the-people-4fb9ccbab07c
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Could you create a Medium article explaining your tunneling technologies (AtomOS) to the man on the street? I kind of understand that you have designed them to circumvent censorship and to ensure the high performance and scalability of the system. But I still haven’t connected all the dots. I guess most people interested in privacy would like to know how they will be better than VP technologies which are always open to exploitation.
You can find some detail of our technology in the whitepaper:
https://deeper.network/assets/pdf/whitepaper/Deeper-WP-EN-1130.pdf

We'll work on Medium articles in the future. To answer your question, VPN uses central service nodes and its traffic pattern is easily recognized by censorship. Deeper network is decentralized and nodes discover each other on blockchain. AtomOS tunnel encrypts all data being transferred and disguises traffic pattern. Last but not least, VPN is way too slow when dealing with internationl Internet traffic. AtomOS implements fast TCP and novel congestion control algorithms to accelerate data transmission. For example, we tested 4K video streaming between US and China and observed no delays at all.

Thanks for your interest in our project. Stay tuned!
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Very interesting project. I hope this project will bring some real use cases for crypto tokens. I see that unlike most of the hyped-up projects in the days of ICO fever, you have a working product. The market has been so bad lately and there has been so much capital destruction. People have lost hope in ICOs and crypto in general. We need to reinvent the market and stop paying attention to the projects with rockstars that deliver nothing. Some of those projects are at the top 10 in market cap. We need to pay attention to real projects with an ethical and hardworking crew.
Absolutely. There's always hype and speculation in new markets. Just like the Internet bubble around 2000. Don't lose confidence in blockchain. Internet has proven itself in the past 20 years and blockchain will, too. Deeper network is one of the projects with real use cases. We'll be focusing on deploying our devices rather than ICOs. Anyway, be patient and look forward into the next 5 years or so.
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February 07, 2019, 07:54:43 AM
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I am very excited about this project, but my main concern regarding this private Internet connection is the exit node. We know that exit nodes are always areas of vulnerability for privacy. Considering that some users will have to use hardware to keep your private network active, I am wondering to what extent this might be a risk for them. 
This is a very good question. We already have the solution to eliminate the risk for users.
In AtomOS, we do NAT for every connection, for the connections from other users, AtomOS will assign them a specified range source port such as ( 60000~65534). This can help user to clarify the bad traffic is from others instead of himself.
Good question. Let me add some more points here:
1. Users will use our dedicated hardware, DeeperConnect, to maintain Deeper network. It does not involve your other devices.
2. We are a team of network security experts who are in this industry for decades. Strict traffic isolation is implemented between your own traffic and other traffic. You can also specify how much bandwidth you want to share.
3. DeeperConnect itself is a hardware firewall. It protects you from malware and other Internet threats. It's actually better than Mcafee or similar products as you now don't need to install any of them in your computer, but have a dedicated device to handle all those things.
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February 08, 2019, 11:48:31 PM
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Will miners acting like nodes have the option to set a whitelist of websites they will allow users to contact when using them as a proxy? Since some of us may not want to have local law enforcement visiting us in our homes. Any details?
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Beta test in progress

We are beta-testing our Deeper Connect devices!
Deeper Connect (the 2 images below) is a solution for all the internet security problems and an innovative way of sharing!




The distribution of Deeper Connect nodes that are under testing is illustrated in the following image.

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February 10, 2019, 10:19:54 PM
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Considering that you already have a router for a private Internet connection that will be used as a mining rig too, I am curious about the protocol. What exactly does Proof of Credit mean? So far we know that PoW is the most secure protocol but expends massive amounts of energy. And although we all dream of seeing BTC in the range of 100k-300k (if it ever reaches new ATH or if it survives) such a price could only come at a huge energetic cost. Currently PoW could be described as, literally, energy suicide. You mention that this router doubles as a mining rig and operates on only 12 watts. I would like to know if you have considered or anticipate any vulnerabilities.
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February 11, 2019, 12:25:46 AM
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I am thinking that if Deeper Network is a security device, then it is going to be useful for people handling crypto or those vulnerable to attacks by malicious agents.
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February 12, 2019, 08:01:42 PM
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When do you plan to have your token on exchanges? Do you plan to hit up any crypto exchanges like Binance, KuCoin or Huobi?
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February 14, 2019, 08:47:50 PM
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There are some projects that allow users to sell their private data to marketing companies. I am wondering if you are considering that option or if your project is solely based on privacy and free access to information. Have you considered collaboration with such projects?

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Hmm, I like good projects to tinker with.

So if I understood correctly, once AtomOS is released, anyone anywhere can install a node on whatever hardware he wants (be it a pi or a nuc for instance)? Are homemade devices allowed to mine on the e2 chain too?

Because the main issue usually is getting those "official" devices shipped abroad. They usually cost quite a bit and paying import and shipping taxes is always an annoyance.

Can more than one device run on a home network? Asking as residential internet connections usually have one single (and dynamic) IP. Or could I potentially a deep army of rPIs :p?

BTW there's a typo page 64: "Similar to Carnado [9], ", it's Cardano, not Carnado

I know it's a small detail, but it's worth correcting...
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Hmm, I like good projects to tinker with.

So if I understood correctly, once AtomOS is released, anyone anywhere can install a node on whatever hardware he wants (be it a pi or a nuc for instance)? Are homemade devices allowed to mine on the e2 chain too?

Because the main issue usually is getting those "official" devices shipped abroad. They usually cost quite a bit and paying import and shipping taxes is always an annoyance.

Can more than one device run on a home network? Asking as residential internet connections usually have one single (and dynamic) IP. Or could I potentially a deep army of rPIs :p?

BTW there's a typo page 64: "Similar to Carnado [9], ", it's Cardano, not Carnado

I know it's a small detail, but it's worth correcting...
Just fixed the typo in whitepaper Smiley Thanks very much!

You basically need to run AtomOS to participate in e2 chain mining. A mini PC + AtomOS definitely works! As for multiple nodes in a home network, I don't have an answer now. We'll carefully think about it in e2 chain implementation. We generally discourage mining farms as we want to give everybody an equal chance to participate.
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There are some projects that allow users to sell their private data to marketing companies. I am wondering if you are considering that option or if your project is solely based on privacy and free access to information. Have you considered collaboration with such projects?
Yes, users should the right to decide what to do with their private data (including selling it). That's what we call data sovereignty in our whitepaper. I can see that as future work when we develop the trusted Internet. For now, we'll be focusing on protecting data privacy.
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When do you plan to have your token on exchanges? Do you plan to hit up any crypto exchanges like Binance, KuCoin or Huobi?
We definitely have plans to list our tokens on major exchanges. But before that, we'll be focusing on deploying our devices and gaining real utilities of our token. Once Deeper token (DPR) is widely adopted, major exchanges will in turn need DPR to be listed.
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Hmm, I like good projects to tinker with.

So if I understood correctly, once AtomOS is released, anyone anywhere can install a node on whatever hardware he wants (be it a pi or a nuc for instance)? Are homemade devices allowed to mine on the e2 chain too?

Because the main issue usually is getting those "official" devices shipped abroad. They usually cost quite a bit and paying import and shipping taxes is always an annoyance.

Can more than one device run on a home network? Asking as residential internet connections usually have one single (and dynamic) IP. Or could I potentially a deep army of rPIs :p?

BTW there's a typo page 64: "Similar to Carnado [9], ", it's Cardano, not Carnado

I know it's a small detail, but it's worth correcting...
Just fixed the typo in whitepaper Smiley Thanks very much!

You basically need to run AtomOS to participate in e2 chain mining. A mini PC + AtomOS definitely works! As for multiple nodes in a home network, I don't have an answer now. We'll carefully think about it in e2 chain implementation. We generally discourage mining farms as we want to give everybody an equal chance to participate.

Cool, thanks for the answer.

I would say if all it takes is a device with a network port, then the investment to run a "deeper farm" is a lot less compared to a GPU farm. I mean a Pi is what, 30$ compared to 2000+$ for a GPU mining rig. So the chance to participate is equal for everyone. However for true decentralization it would make sense to allow 1 device per IP to prevent farms.
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February 17, 2019, 10:18:03 PM
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How will the price of DPR tokens be determined in a real use case situation? Let’s consider the case of a deficit of nodes available for users? Will users compete for available nodes making bids? And what about the opposite, where there is an excess of nodes available? Wouldn’t that lower the price too? Basically, what are the dynamics of price discovery for your tokens in a live and active network?

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Are you using low frequency multicore architecture as part of your design to increase scalability and are these components part of the design of your router?
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How many nodes are you aiming to distribute around the world for your network to be considered secure and stable? Approximately how much will this equipment cost?

1K nodes are enough.
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Are you using low frequency multicore architecture as part of your design to increase scalability and are these components part of the design of your router?
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Yes, this is what our AtomOS adapted. AtomOS uses HIPE to take advantage of multicore architecture.
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Some people ask us about the design philosophy of PoC, here is a brief introduction:

Consensus entropy and PoC consensus mechanism


Basic idea: Use entropy concept from physics in block chain, thus, we introduce the concept of  consensus entropy.

1. The concept of consensus entropy
In a distributed system, by default, the reliability of every node  is unstable; maybe there are many false nodes (created by script nodes). Under such a situation, we can say the system is in chaos. In other words, "consensus entropy" is very high. The computation used in PoW of bitcoin is to eliminate false nodes; in the meantime, to punish false/dishonest nodes in order to ensure the consensus in the end. From physics point of view, those extra computing power from computer is the work of a high entropy distributed system. Thus, it reduces the entropy of the system in order to build consensus in the end. As a result, it can complete the basic function of block chain. 


2. Is it necessary to elimination of entropy endlessly?
PoW is currently the most reliable consensus mechanism (calculation). But, the short coming is obvious as well, because it needs to work constantly to maintain low entropy status unanimously. Thus, it wastes a lots of energy. It will generate 1.3 ton carbon dioxide and costs thousands dollar to produce one bitcoin. Is that really necessary?

The two main functions of PoW are 1) eliminating the false node, 2) punishing the false node.

2.1. Eliminating the false node:

In the every round of PoW calculation, it is contentious on every node in order to do the block chain mining. The false node does not have computing power. Therefore, it will be eliminated. In this process, all the real nodes will do a massive computation for the system and it will reduce the consensus entropy to reach the consensus in the end. But from the next block, all the nodes will start eliminating entropy all over again. Therefore, the huge resources are being wasted. We kind of know this is unnecessary, because the system is in low entropy status. The very next round consensus should start from the "low entropy" status, not to start from the very beginning, forgetting about its "low entropy" status. The short coming of PoW is the design flaw, without ability to maintain its own "low entropy" status. Thus, the whole system is to eliminate entropy endlessly.

2.2. Punish the false/dishonest node: Besides the punishment for computing power, there are some other punishment method such as using "token." So, it is not a must to punish false/dishonest node in PoW.

In summary, if we can design a system to maintain its low entropy after the previous elimination of entropy; in conjunction with other punishment measures, we can create a new consensus mechanism method without PoW.
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this is a job that will make a good future, we hope a lot with it, good luck, sir.
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WHAT IS DEEPER NETWORK?

Deeper Network is a blockchain-powered all-in-one solution that provides true Internet freedom with enhanced security. Combining security, sharing, and blockchain, Deeper creates a new concept called SSS (Secure Shared Service) that enables open and secure Internet access and equal participation in mining.

https://i.imgur.com/ctoSJnu.png
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Deeper Use Cases:

* Internet Censorship Circumvention
* Defense Against Cyber Attacks.
* Parental Control.
* Roaming Access.
* Profiting from Network Sharing.
* Blockchain Mining.
* DApp Store.



PoC Consensus Mechanism



The consensus mechanism supporting blockchain operation is decentralized, namely, there is no centralized function responsible for the whole system’s operation. Then how are transactions recorded and how are smart contracts implemented? The whole system runs automatically only when a large user population can efficiently reach consensus.Satoshi Nakamoto, the founder of Bitcoin, is long-gone from the Bitcoin scene yet the system is still running thanks to its crucial PoW consensus mechanism. However, traditional blockchain technologies are not without flaws. For example, Bitcoin and Ethereum achieved security and fairness with low efficiency and high energy consump62 tion. The recently launched EOS achieved high efficiency and low energy consumption by sacrificing the fairness of a decentralized system [30]. The consensus mechanism of an excellent decentralized system should have the following characteristics:
• High efficiency
• Low energy consumption
• Security
• Fairness
The echain based on our PoC consensus mechanism has all of the above characteristics.Therefore, we have every reason to believe that the echain will replace all of the currently popular blockchain technologies. After the launch of the echain mainnet,users can automatically perform echain mining by upgrading their Deeper Connect.
This means that anyone can access the core of the blockchain economy without wasting
time, effort nor money. We can offer all users both the benefits of a secure shared
network and of the blockchain economy.



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If your device is secure enough, there is an army of people who will be willing to use it. Currently the world is moving in the same direction as China. Revolutionary technologies capable of providing private and unrestricted access to Internet will bloom in the coming years.
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