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December 07, 2018, 02:40:53 PM
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0.25btc to run it all through some copy and paste checker against google

Many plagiarizers will spin the text or Google-translate from other languages, and much of these posts aren't picked up by an automated checking script. You would need to manually review the posts, which is just unfeasible.


I would expect most legends on these mega threads and spamming sigs are not the original account holders.

All the more reason to ban them, but plagiarizers should be banned regardless of account age. We teach 5 year olds not to copy each other's work. Plagiarizing just once is enough for you to fail a class or be kicked out of university. This isn't some unknown, arbitrary, irrational rule we are talking about here. Not stealing other people's work is basic common sense in every form of schooling and employment.


Still any legend should be shown why they were banned.

I do agree that banned members should be told why they were banned, if they were banned for plagiarism, also told that their ban won't be reversed. It would cut down massively on the number of these threads that are opened every day.

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December 07, 2018, 03:01:46 PM
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I will not at all accept "most" pre merit legends are spammers. I would expect the rate of legends being demonstrated as real bad eggs like this account will shrink drastically over time.

There are people who don't accept the Earth is round so you have company here.

The number may shrink if these assholes get reported and banned. Stop muddying the waters and find a way to contribute.

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December 07, 2018, 11:55:34 PM
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I will not at all accept "most" pre merit legends are spammers. I would expect the rate of legends being demonstrated as real bad eggs like this account will shrink drastically over time.

There are people who don't accept the Earth is round so you have company here.

The number may shrink if these assholes get reported and banned. Stop muddying the waters and find a way to contribute.


I have contributed significantly to this community in the past.

Far from muddying the waters my only intention is to help ensure things that were great about this forum remain that way.

Apparently it would be correct to assume the earth is not round and rather it's an oblate spheroid.

When you have proven over 1000 pre merit legends are nothing other than spammers then I will perhaps take you more seriously.

No need to reply here since this person has obviously noticed his case for reinstatement is very weak to absolutely futile.








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December 08, 2018, 12:08:00 AM
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Far from muddying the waters my only intention is to help ensure things that were great about this forum remain that way.

You're jumping into appeal threads with your fallacious assumptions as if every Legendary title is worth anything. It's not. And you're refusing to spend your own time researching any of these cases instead choosing to bark at people who do. If you want to help - find actual problems that need solving and work on it. What you're doing here is not helping anyone. You're discrediting the work of moderators and reporters for no good reason.

When you have proven over 1000 pre merit legends are nothing other than spammers then I will perhaps take you more seriously.

The fuck I need to prove... I'm digging in this shit every day. It's you who needs to take off the stilettos and take a dive in this cesspool.

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December 08, 2018, 12:54:02 AM
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Far from muddying the waters my only intention is to help ensure things that were great about this forum remain that way.

You're jumping into appeal threads with your fallacious assumptions as if every Legendary title is worth anything. It's not. And you're refusing to spend your own time researching any of these cases instead choosing to bark at people who do. If you want to help - find actual problems that need solving and work on it. What you're doing here is not helping anyone. You're discrediting the work of moderators and reporters for no good reason.

When you have proven over 1000 pre merit legends are nothing other than spammers then I will perhaps take you more seriously.

The fuck I need to prove... I'm digging in this shit every day. It's you who needs to take off the stilettos and take a dive in this cesspool.

I don't think you understand.

I am not discrediting anyones effort. I already told you up thread that I do see you are helping and I do appreciate it.

I see no assumptions simply requesting someone listens to their questions of why? and what got them banned.

I simply state all legends and heros deserve to at least see why ie the actual offence which got them banned. I do not think that is trying to discredit anyones work at all. Actually really anyone should at least see why they are banned. This thread actually does not discredit this decision it actually seems to have confirmed the correct action was taken. It seems you just do not like to think that anything should even be questioned or analysed. You should not be offended by that it is simply human nature to want to know exactly why they were punished.

Trust me when I say I have battled long and hard against the real largest turds in the cesspool for many years. I do tend to focus more on scams than spammers and plagiarists although I accept there is an over lap and all should be targeted.
However to state "most" pre merit legends are spammers then yes you must prove it if you want anyone to take that statement seriously because it is an outrageous and ludicrous statement.

Your main issue is not having much in the way of manners, I can only assume you live in a very privileged area or have never taken your tone off of the internet into real life.  Other than that you seem okay.

I am totally in support of cleaning up the board but not even 1 innocent or well meaning legend or hero or even anyone really should be deleted in the process or not at least give opportunity to know why he was banned and hear their side. I know everyone deserves fair trial but legends and heros have sometimes put so much effort in they should get priority. I see some disputing when they have only 100 posts, they are likely to spend that appealing so that could be pointless.


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December 08, 2018, 12:59:26 AM
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When you have proven over 1000 pre merit legends are nothing other than spammers then I will perhaps take you more seriously.

The fuck I need to prove... I'm digging in this shit every day. It's you who needs to take off the stilettos and take a dive in this cesspool.

I dunno if any of that or this is on topic anymore, but... you sound like you're about to burn out. Also, you're talking about assumptions and prejudice and such and how others are not spending time researching issues/cases. You need to be self-critical, as I've seen you fail at that and you seem to not acknowledge it. It's easy to go through 100 threads a day and bark something "smart" in each of them without deeply thinking about anything. Many in these forums do that and I really don't know what good does it do.

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December 08, 2018, 01:15:04 AM
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I simply state all legends and heros deserve to at least see why ie the actual offence which got them banned. I do not think that is trying to discredit anyones work at all. Actually really anyone should at least see why they are banned. This thread actually does not discredit this decision it actually seems to have confirmed the correct action was taken. It seems you just do not like to think that anything should even be questioned or analysed. You should not be offended by that it is simply human nature to want to know exactly why they were punished.

I never said that they don't deserve to know, you're just making shit up. Quite the contrary - I provide proof when I can, and merit others who do. Ideally that should be the first response in the thread (there is really no point to post generic bullshit like "most likely plagiarism bla bla bla" not supported by facts) and the subsequent discussion should be about the actual violation/ban/etc. You're the opposite of that, just yapping in tangents.

I realize you're too thick to grasp that and I'm just perpetuating your nonsense by replying to you. I'm out. Have a nice weekend.

I dunno if any of that or this is on topic anymore, but... you sound like you're about to burn out. Also, you're talking about assumptions and prejudice and such and how others are not spending time researching issues/cases. You need to be self-critical, as I've seen you fail at that and you seem to not acknowledge it. It's easy to go through 100 threads a day and bark something "smart" in each of them without deeply thinking about anything. Many in these forums do that and I really don't know what good does it do.

So you're trying to make a point about not "deeply thinking about anything" by stepping into page 2 of a thread that you haven't read and have no clue about. Charming.

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December 08, 2018, 01:41:01 AM
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I simply state all legends and heros deserve to at least see why ie the actual offence which got them banned. I do not think that is trying to discredit anyones work at all. Actually really anyone should at least see why they are banned. This thread actually does not discredit this decision it actually seems to have confirmed the correct action was taken. It seems you just do not like to think that anything should even be questioned or analysed. You should not be offended by that it is simply human nature to want to know exactly why they were punished.

I never said that they don't deserve to know, you're just making shit up. Quite the contrary - I provide proof when I can, and merit others who do. Ideally that should be the first response in the thread (there is really no point to post generic bullshit like "most likely plagiarism bla bla bla" not supported by facts) and the subsequent discussion should be about the actual violation/ban/etc. You're the opposite of that, just yapping in tangents.

I realize you're too thick to grasp that and I'm just perpetuating your nonsense by replying to you. I'm out. Have a nice weekend.

I dunno if any of that or this is on topic anymore, but... you sound like you're about to burn out. Also, you're talking about assumptions and prejudice and such and how others are not spending time researching issues/cases. You need to be self-critical, as I've seen you fail at that and you seem to not acknowledge it. It's easy to go through 100 threads a day and bark something "smart" in each of them without deeply thinking about anything. Many in these forums do that and I really don't know what good does it do.

So you're trying to make a point about not "deeply thinking about anything" by stepping into page 2 of a thread that you haven't read and have no clue about. Charming.

Look just relax. There is no need to get all huffy.

I don't go off  on tangents - i simply said let's see why he was banned. That I don't feel is off topic.

I have no idea what nonsense you are referring to.  There is no nonsense here in this thread. The only statement I see that could qualify for nonsense is saying most pre merit legends are spammers.

Just chill and have a normal discussion without feeling annoyed from the outset for being asked simple questions.





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December 08, 2018, 02:26:12 AM
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The only statement I see that could qualify for nonsense is saying most pre merit legends are spammers.
But they are lol  Cool

(99% of it)

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December 08, 2018, 02:56:49 AM
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The only statement I see that could qualify for nonsense is saying most pre merit legends are spammers.
But they are lol  Cool

(99% of it)

Yikes only 20 or so legends pre merit that are not spammers.... that is worrying. Suchmoon will be annoyed to hear that unless he genuinely believes he is a top 20 net positive contributor here. I'm pleased Satoshi is not under the 99% microscope. I can only hope Theymos, GM, VB, LJ, DZ etc can squeeze in.

The top 200 merit/meta club will be here to thrash out which are and are not any time now. Not much room for them all though.





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December 08, 2018, 12:57:09 PM
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Please , leave Soy free ! Its one of the best French contributor , honest and friendly with newbies.
1 month bans are a good solution.
For Christmas make a good action sir !

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December 08, 2018, 01:02:43 PM
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Are you suggesting that if you have more activity the rules shouldn't be as strictly applied?


It already happens...

Bruno for example got 7 day bans instead of anything longer (gleb gemow).

It’s strange not to see a mod being so soft in this case as they normally do seem to be...

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December 08, 2018, 01:34:44 PM
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Are you suggesting that if you have more activity the rules shouldn't be as strictly applied?


It already happens...

Bruno for example got 7 day bans instead of anything longer (gleb gemow).

It’s strange not to see a mod being so soft in this case as they normally do seem to be...

For what exactly?
He is one of THE best scam hunters and biggest contributors here so I would doubt he did anything dodgy.

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December 08, 2018, 01:48:25 PM
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Are you suggesting that if you have more activity the rules shouldn't be as strictly applied?


It already happens...

Bruno for example got 7 day bans instead of anything longer (gleb gemow).

It’s strange not to see a mod being so soft in this case as they normally do seem to be...

For what exactly?
He is one of THE best scam hunters and biggest contributors here so I would doubt he did anything dodgy.

AFAIK Bruno got his 7 day wrist slap for consecutive posting after being warned not to keep doing it.

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December 08, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
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Are you suggesting that if you have more activity the rules shouldn't be as strictly applied?


It already happens...

Bruno for example got 7 day bans instead of anything longer (gleb gemow).

It’s strange not to see a mod being so soft in this case as they normally do seem to be...

For what exactly?
He is one of THE best scam hunters and biggest contributors here so I would doubt he did anything dodgy.

AFAIK Bruno got his 7 day wrist slap for consecutive posting after being warned not to keep doing it.

Well that sounds fair enough - a person that has done so much for the forum deserves a bit of a wrist slap for that but why are people suggesting that is too soft? the guy is a real legend to many persons here on this forum and has saved people millions of dollars by crushing scams in the past....a bit of consecutive posting does not seem to be worthy of any thing stronger really to me.

I always think theymos is quite fair to people if he has time to review it.

You put more in you get more out. That seems fair enough to me.


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December 08, 2018, 02:34:23 PM
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Well that sounds fair enough - a person that has done so much for the forum deserves a bit of a wrist slap for that but why are people suggesting that is too soft? the guy is a real legend to many persons here on this forum and has saved people millions of dollars by crushing scams in the past....a bit of consecutive posting does not seem to be worthy of any thing stronger really to me.

I always think theymos is quite fair to people if he has time to review it.

You put more in you get more out. That seems fair enough to me.

Why should he receive special treatment? He has done a lot of multi postings even after being warned multiple times. And that was not the first time.

He chose not to follow the rules, so he got banned.

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December 08, 2018, 03:13:36 PM
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Well that sounds fair enough - a person that has done so much for the forum deserves a bit of a wrist slap for that but why are people suggesting that is too soft? the guy is a real legend to many persons here on this forum and has saved people millions of dollars by crushing scams in the past....a bit of consecutive posting does not seem to be worthy of any thing stronger really to me.

I always think theymos is quite fair to people if he has time to review it.

You put more in you get more out. That seems fair enough to me.

Why should he receive special treatment? He has done a lot of multi postings even after being warned multiple times. And that was not the first time.

He chose not to follow the rules, so he got banned.
I just told you why he SHOULD receive special treatment over people that have done nothing here.

The more you put in the more you get out. What about this concept is hard to understand.

Imagine the board like a bank. You pay in 50k per year and occasionally do things that get you fined 5k. So long as you do not do them too often then you are net positive still by far. Now someone else who pays nothing per year comes along and does something worthy of a 5k fine and they are fucked because they simply did not pay in.

What are you suggesting that one of the very best scam hunters here gets perm banned for multi postings? How will the next wave of noobs that had no Bruno to warn them off piles millions in to a scam come and thank you? Are you suggesting this because if he got temp banned for it what would be the next step if not perm banned?

Now for instance he did something worthy of a perm ban for which there can be no excuse like scamming people himself of course there is no amount of credit one can build to null this. That would be like a 50 trillion dollar fine so bye bye for anyone.

Anyway if he got temp banned then why are you saying he got any kind of special treatment?  

People I have never heard of moaning about real legends of this board that have done huge things need to start waking up to the fact you need these people because those wanting this calibre of person  perm banned for multi posting are going to do nothing to replace him.  Tons of noobs getting fleeced for millions of dollars does a lot more damage than multi posting. Of course he must stop if theymos tells him to it is his board his rules but of course anyone with a sense of the greater good will not want Bruno banned for anything other than serious serious wrong doing that reduces him to net negative.



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Comparing bumping threads to plagiarism is quite a reach.  Yes, both activities are against the rules, but punishment should fit the crime.
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