Is banning weapons such a good thing?

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that the conditions for the possession or carrying of weapons in people, their demands must be very high, among them, study very well the whole life of the individual and at least pass some very strict psychological tests.

The latest events of a terrorist nature, have greatly aroused worldwide commotion, I believe that some prohibitions will be equivalent to saving many lives, if we see it from that point of view, it is worth doing.

Nor can we lose sight of the fact that weapons are used as means of protection, whether for the individual or the family, therefore, new ways should be created to reduce the acquisition of weapons, because something that must be respected is the life of the innocent people.

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[Daniel91]

Well, in the countries where we have statistically more crimes and killing usually is much more easy to get weapons legally.
Other example are Scandinavian countries like Sweden, Norway or Finland  where people can't get so easily weapons and they don't have so much crimes or killing like America.
Something to think about.
Of course, other factors are also important here.

[BADecker]

^^^ But you have to consider why gun controlled countries are safer than the USA regarding weapons. It's because of weapon freedom in the USA. What do I mean?

Governments are people ruling over their citizens. People love to get rich off other people. Government people would love to make their people into slaves. But the USA stops them. How does the USA stop other government people from making slaves of their own citizen people? Through USA gun freedom.

The people in Scandinavian countries see two things. They see the gun freedom in the USA. And they see the gun violence in the USA. But the Scandinavian governments see it as well. This is why they keep their people free. They know that if they tried to enslave their people, the people would make guns. Why would the people make guns? Because they know how much freedom there is in America, and they want such freedom.

Right now ME people are waking up to USA freedom. All the people want freedom like the USA. Part of the reason why ISIS is dying is that the people are fed up with not having any guns like ISIS. They are helping the USA destroy ISIS from within.

Be glad that you have freedom from the need to own guns. But recognize that your freedom is being promoted by the USA freedom to own, and the American people's ownership of... guns.

[ASHLIUSZ]

Well, in the countries where we have statistically more crimes and killing usually is much more easy to get weapons legally.
Other example are Scandinavian countries like Sweden, Norway or Finland  where people can't get so easily weapons and they don't have so much crimes or killing like America.
Something to think about.
Of course, other factors are also important here.

Agreed, even when there is restrictions for gun people find some way to get it for their safety. The same needs to be more perfect when it comes to implementation. Banning of weapons around the world is under effect, but the same at times go uncontrollable. Those results in massive loss of lives.

[TECSHARE]

^^^ But you have to consider why gun controlled countries are safer than the USA regarding weapons. It's because of weapon freedom in the USA. What do I mean?

Governments are people ruling over their citizens. People love to get rich off other people. Government people would love to make their people into slaves. But the USA stops them. How does the USA stop other government people from making slaves of their own citizen people? Through USA gun freedom.

The people in Scandinavian countries see two things. They see the gun freedom in the USA. And they see the gun violence in the USA. But the Scandinavian governments see it as well. This is why they keep their people free. They know that if they tried to enslave their people, the people would make guns. Why would the people make guns? Because they know how much freedom there is in America, and they want such freedom.

Right now ME people are waking up to USA freedom. All the people want freedom like the USA. Part of the reason why ISIS is dying is that the people are fed up with not having any guns like ISIS. They are helping the USA destroy ISIS from within.

Be glad that you have freedom from the need to own guns. But recognize that your freedom is being promoted by the USA freedom to own, and the American people's ownership of... guns.

Everyone wants to see evil people stopped, but no one ever wants to look at the blood. You want to enjoy your bacon but you don't want to slaughter the pig. You want to be free, but you don't want to hold a dangerous scary gun. Society is turning into a bunch of helpless infants begging to be put in a Earth sized playpen, and demanding any remaining adults are forced to join them so they are never reminded how infantile they are in comparison.

[Spendulus]

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Everyone wants to see evil people stopped, but no one ever wants to look at the blood. You want to enjoy your bacon but you don't want to slaughter the pig. You want to be free, but you don't want to hold a dangerous scary gun. Society is turning into a bunch of helpless infants begging to be put in a Earth sized playpen, and demanding any remaining adults are forced to join them so they are never reminded how infantile they are in comparison.

However if I slaughter the pig, I've got the bacon. If you want it, you'll have to meet my price for it. And you can't take it away because I've got that dangerous scary gun.

Today is another great day...

[Daniel91]

^^^ But you have to consider why gun controlled countries are safer than the USA regarding weapons. It's because of weapon freedom in the USA. What do I mean?

Governments are people ruling over their citizens. People love to get rich off other people. Government people would love to make their people into slaves. But the USA stops them. How does the USA stop other government people from making slaves of their own citizen people? Through USA gun freedom.

The people in Scandinavian countries see two things. They see the gun freedom in the USA. And they see the gun violence in the USA. But the Scandinavian governments see it as well. This is why they keep their people free. They know that if they tried to enslave their people, the people would make guns. Why would the people make guns? Because they know how much freedom there is in America, and they want such freedom.

Right now ME people are waking up to USA freedom. All the people want freedom like the USA. Part of the reason why ISIS is dying is that the people are fed up with not having any guns like ISIS. They are helping the USA destroy ISIS from within.

Be glad that you have freedom from the need to own guns. But recognize that your freedom is being promoted by the USA freedom to own, and the American people's ownership of... guns.

Everyone wants to see evil people stopped, but no one ever wants to look at the blood. You want to enjoy your bacon but you don't want to slaughter the pig. You want to be free, but you don't want to hold a dangerous scary gun. Society is turning into a bunch of helpless infants begging to be put in a Earth sized playpen, and demanding any remaining adults are forced to join them so they are never reminded how infantile they are in comparison.

I really think that our security should be protected by the police and army, not the individuals without any control.
In the case of the war government can mobilize ordinary people but otherwise security should be job of trained individuals and organization prepared for such job.
It works if you compare USA and Swiss or Scandinavian countries, for example.

[BADecker]

I really think that our security should be protected by the police and army, not the individuals without any control.
In the case of the war government can mobilize ordinary people but otherwise security should be job of trained individuals and organization prepared for such job.
It works if you compare USA and Swiss or Scandinavian countries, for example.

The police and military have control. The private is controlled by the corporal, who is controlled by the sergeant, who is controlled by the lieutenant, who is controlled by the colonel... all the way to the top. Who is the top? The country dictator who has made slaves of his people.

Certainly, if you don't know how to control yourself, you shouldn't be messing with guns.

However, the fact that you can think and write in logical ways in this forum, leads me to believe that you probably have enough control to at least learn how to control a gun. So, it is your own voluntary doing to live as a slave.

[Xenrise]

Banning of weapons all over the world might result to the world peace many people believed and dreamed of. However, no country will be able to agree in this thing. Why? It's because different country have already allotted money for their defense in case of an attack from different country. Not only that, but also if they have terrorist in their own country. Second thought is that weapons are also technology. And since we are in the age in which we are experiencing great development of almost everything, technology are developing, thus weapons are developing also. Imagine what a person that put a lot of money in the development of a thing and then a person with authority will ban that thing. They'll feel bad and that'll result into chaos.

The only thing we can do is to have peace talks if there is a developing chaos.

[Artemis3]

Banning of weapons all over the world might result to the world peace many people believed and dreamed of. However, no country will be able to agree in this thing. Why? It's because different country have already allotted money for their defense in case of an attack from different country. Not only that, but also if they have terrorist in their own country. Second thought is that weapons are also technology. And since we are in the age in which we are experiencing great development of almost everything, technology are developing, thus weapons are developing also. Imagine what a person that put a lot of money in the development of a thing and then a person with authority will ban that thing. They'll feel bad and that'll result into chaos.

The only thing we can do is to have peace talks if there is a developing chaos.

No, it just doesn't work. Some form of control, with with a permit or license is ok, but outright ban is useless..

When you outlaw guns, only outlaws carry guns, which means its meaningless. Furthermore, as seen in my country, the outlaws will start killing the last remaining people legally carrying them (ie. Police, military, etc), to obtain more.

Lets talk school shootings. Imagine every teacher has a gun, next time a shooter comes they will be shot quickly. Of course metal detector should be at all entrances with armed guards. This should work as a deterrent, like in a lawless society everyone carrying a gun in itself deters others from doing wrong.

When you ban weapons, the killer would go to the school armed anyway, and without any resistance cause a large amount of deaths.

You could ban military grade weapons from the hands of civilians, but that doesn't stop civilians from getting them, it just increases the price and the risks for lawful persons to posses one. The unlawful won't care. In that case your police/military forces better be ready to deal with those owning one...

Here? They get military weapons in prison, let alone in the street... Of course guns are "banned", but as i said, the wrongdoers don't care...

Wasn't Swiss or somewhere every family does in fact keep at least a rifle (to deter invaders)? Yet their society is very peaceful?

[Malsetid]

Banning of weapons all over the world might result to the world peace many people believed and dreamed of. However, no country will be able to agree in this thing. Why? It's because different country have already allotted money for their defense in case of an attack from different country. Not only that, but also if they have terrorist in their own country. Second thought is that weapons are also technology. And since we are in the age in which we are experiencing great development of almost everything, technology are developing, thus weapons are developing also. Imagine what a person that put a lot of money in the development of a thing and then a person with authority will ban that thing. They'll feel bad and that'll result into chaos.

The only thing we can do is to have peace talks if there is a developing chaos.

No, it just doesn't work. Some form of control, with with a permit or license is ok, but outright ban is useless..

When you outlaw guns, only outlaws carry guns, which means its meaningless. Furthermore, as seen in my country, the outlaws will start killing the last remaining people legally carrying them (ie. Police, military, etc), to obtain more.

Lets talk school shootings. Imagine every teacher has a gun, next time a shooter comes they will be shot quickly. Of course metal detector should be at all entrances with armed guards. This should work as a deterrent, like in a lawless society everyone carrying a gun in itself deters others from doing wrong.

When you ban weapons, the killer would go to the school armed anyway, and without any resistance cause a large amount of deaths.

You could ban military grade weapons from the hands of civilians, but that doesn't stop civilians from getting them, it just increases the price and the risks for lawful persons to posses one. The unlawful won't care. In that case your police/military forces better be ready to deal with those owning one...

Here? They get military weapons in prison, let alone in the street... Of course guns are "banned", but as i said, the wrongdoers don't care...

Wasn't Swiss or somewhere every family does in fact keep at least a rifle (to deter invaders)? Yet their society is very peaceful?

I agree. Ban it or not, people will have access to guns. You just make more lawbreakers if such law is implemented. Proper law enforcement would be a more likely solution. There are already laws about gun ownership but the government must be clear on it's stand  and regulate the proper use of firearms firmly with fair monitoring to both registered and non registered owners.

[BADecker]

I agree. Ban it or not, people will have access to guns. You just make more lawbreakers if such law is implemented. Proper law enforcement would be a more likely solution. There are already laws about gun ownership but the government must be clear on it's stand  and regulate the proper use of firearms firmly with fair monitoring to both registered and non registered owners.

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[jjbanks994]

I think we should ban mass destruction weapons... protection weapons need heavy regulation

[BADecker]

Such a thing as banning all weapons is impossible. The closest thing would be to make something like the Matrix movie for real, where we could only dream that we had weapons.

[Pasos100]

At this point in time with the incidences of mass shooting going on these days, I think it's germane that weapons are banned .
This will go a long way in taking weapons aways from the hands of lunatics who commit these crimes and make the society a safer place for citizens.

[raymondspeaks]

Considering the current events I'm beginning to question the ban of weapons in the population...
I'm not talking about a country where there are weapons and you ban them, cause that doesn't work (bad guys don't just hand out their weapons) but about a country where weapons are banned and could be unbanned.

Here are the pros and cons I see in a country with ban on weapons:

-Pros

• Lower murder rate because knife are less deadly
• Less or even no mass shootings and no accidents like "4 year old killed brother playing with dad weapon"
• Less police kills because policemen don't have to be paranoid as 99% of criminals don't have guns

-Cons

• You're completely at the mercy of your government. You can't do anything against it as angry as you can be
• You have to rely solely on state police, which can be great but only if it's efficient

Problem to me is that the submissive state of the population is really a huge red flag. When I see how powerless European citizens are currently...
When you got riots government just increase number of policemen...

Would you support freedom of weapons trade in a European country without weapons? Considering freedom of trade doesn't mean without huge regulations of course.

You know, I've debated this SO many times with myself but I think we're not really looking at this deep enough.

I'm from the UK and it's easy for me to dismiss Americans and their guns because I, as a citizen of the UK, feel safe to walk out at night. If someone knocks on my door at 3am my first thought is - wow, who needs my help? Rather than get out my 50 Cal to create some huge massive holes in someone because I'm scared for my family's safety. But it's easy for me to do this because our culture is so anti gun that if you polled us you'd probably see at least an 80% swing in anti-gun laws.

When Dunblane happened here they did a voluntary knife and gun giveback without prejudice and the country was so overwhelmed by what happened the Police couldn't cope with everything they got back. But it's in our culture to not need/want a gun. We generally live in safety, and if you're not dodging bullets in a big-city slum then the chances are you're probably going to live out your natural life as best as you can.

It's our culture.

Now I've only visited America once. I can't comment on the culture but as far as I'm aware of it guns are an integral part of society there. So much so that it's written in your most freeing of laws. Can I judge? Perhaps not. But then again you can't judge me for not wanting a gun, because you don't know what it's like either.

Personally I'd like to see guns banned in America, but that's just me. The whole small militia to overthrow government is never going to happen. That stuff all ended with drone strikes, guided missiles and nuclear warheads. I doubt there will ever be a violent overthrow of government.

[Indamuck]

Yes the government does have the upper hand now with drones and other advance technology but there is power in numbers.  The government knows that a population with guns is still a very real threat.

I know people personally that have guns and are severely mentally unstable.  Its unfortunate but people like this will always find a way to get their hands on guns no matter what.

[Idrisu]

For now it might be very difficult to ban weapons and human being are not mature enough to keep weapons out of place.  But a time is coming when it will be done away and we would have a righteous judge then.

[Cryptotina]

Considering the current events I'm beginning to question the ban of weapons in the population...
I'm not talking about a country where there are weapons and you ban them, cause that doesn't work (bad guys don't just hand out their weapons) but about a country where weapons are banned and could be unbanned.

Here are the pros and cons I see in a country with ban on weapons:

-Pros

• Lower murder rate because knife are less deadly
• Less or even no mass shootings and no accidents like "4 year old killed brother playing with dad weapon"
• Less police kills because policemen don't have to be paranoid as 99% of criminals don't have guns

-Cons

• You're completely at the mercy of your government. You can't do anything against it as angry as you can be
• You have to rely solely on state police, which can be great but only if it's efficient

Problem to me is that the submissive state of the population is really a huge red flag. When I see how powerless European citizens are currently...
When you got riots government just increase number of policemen...

Would you support freedom of weapons trade in a European country without weapons? Considering freedom of trade doesn't mean without huge regulations of course.

Maybe the very first recommendation is to "Ban assault-style firearms." You know, those type of guns lawfully possessed by many people in a country for legitimate purposes like self-protection among others. However won't this affect the 2nd Amendment right to "keep and bear arms?"

[BADecker]

Attempting to ban weapons is one of the best ways to promote them.

Consider Hitler. He banned weapons among the Jews. And after he was successful at that, he attempted to ban weapons in the rest of the world. It destroyed him, but look at all the weapons we have today because of it.