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December 12, 2018, 02:00:37 AM
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This will be on Sunday or Monday depending on what part of the world you are in.

Miss South Africa and Miss Philippines are leading again like last year, I reckon. Are they unquestionably that good?





Miss Philippines 4.50
Miss South Africa 4.50
Miss Puerto Rico 7.00
Miss USA 7.50
Miss Thailand 8.50
Miss Venezuela 9.50
Miss Colombia 10.00
Miss Australia 10.50
Miss Vietnam 10.50
Miss Spain 11.00
Miss Cambodia 11.50
Miss Costa Rica 11.50
Miss Ecuador 11.50
Miss China 13.00
Miss Brazil 15.00
Miss Russia 15.00
Miss Ukraine 15.00
Miss Dominican Republic 16.00
Miss Aruba 17.00
Miss Canada 17.00
Miss Curacao 17.00
Miss France 17.00
Miss Mexico 17.00
Miss Haiti 21.00
Miss Peru 21.00

All odds are from https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/entertainment/miss-universe

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December 12, 2018, 04:08:09 AM
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Better odds for some countries on Fairlay. Most notable South Africa which is @ 11.01 on Fairlay versus @ 4.5 on Nitrogen.

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December 12, 2018, 05:37:11 AM
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Interesting how the first 3 candidates are ranked up but the 3rd placer are different, in Nitrogensports its Miss Puerto Rico while in fairlay its Miss USA. The game changer here is their response on the Question and Answer portion, some of the crowd favorite fails on this portion. I guess Miss USA have the edge on this part.




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December 12, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
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This will be on Sunday or Monday depending on what part of the world you are in.

Miss South Africa and Miss Philippines are leading again like last year, I reckon. Are they unquestionably that good?
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Miss Philippines 4.50
Miss South Africa 4.50
Miss Puerto Rico 7.00
Miss USA 7.50
Miss Thailand 8.50
Miss Venezuela 9.50
Miss Colombia 10.00
Miss Australia 10.50
Miss Vietnam 10.50
Miss Spain 11.00
Miss Cambodia 11.50
Miss Costa Rica 11.50
Miss Ecuador 11.50
Miss China 13.00
Miss Brazil 15.00
Miss Russia 15.00
Miss Ukraine 15.00
Miss Dominican Republic 16.00
Miss Aruba 17.00
Miss Canada 17.00
Miss Curacao 17.00
Miss France 17.00
Miss Mexico 17.00
Miss Haiti 21.00
Miss Peru 21.00

All odds are from https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/entertainment/miss-universe

I wouldn't say they are that good, but it's not about me, it's about what girl will be chosen by millions, and I think in that regard people are mistaken when they think that Miss South Africa and Miss Philippines have better chances to win than others. Below are my candidates



but it looks like no one is betting on them neither on nitrogensports nor on fairlay. Alright, we'll see. Looking forward for the results.

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December 12, 2018, 10:54:00 AM
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I wouldn't say they are that good, but it's not about me, it's about what girl will be chosen by millions, and I think in that regard people are mistaken when they think that Miss South Africa and Miss Philippines have better chances to win than others. Below are my candidates



but it looks like no one is betting on them neither on nitrogensports nor on fairlay. Alright, we'll see. Looking forward for the results.


I agree that Miss Honduras is sooooo *.*

But fact is that all Caucasians people count as maybe 1 billion at most so that's not the first population taste that should be taken into account ^^

If you look back it seems that the latina type is probably the most successfull because it appeals both to caucasian, latinos and black people which makes a heck big part of the world.

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December 12, 2018, 11:19:08 AM
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I think Philipines will win again, last time the miss from that country was undoubtely the most awesome looking woman in the world.

If I were to bet I would bet same amount on the first two leading women with odd 4.5 each and chances will be high that I end up with a winning bet this year.

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December 12, 2018, 12:07:43 PM
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I think Philipines will win again, last time the miss from that country was undoubtely the most awesome looking woman in the world.

If I were to bet I would bet same amount on the first two leading women with odd 4.5 each and chances will be high that I end up with a winning bet this year.

Yes the contestant from Philippines is such a beautiful woman. With regards to the looks she has the beauty that other contestants don't have but we should remember that this pageant is not just about beauty but also in brains. Of course their fate depends on how well they could deliver their answers in the question and answer portion.

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December 12, 2018, 12:14:15 PM
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Yes the contestant from Philippines is such a beautiful woman. With regards to the looks she has the beauty that other contestants don't have but we should remember that this pageant is not just about beauty but also in brains. Of course their fate depends on how well they could deliver their answers in the question and answer portion.

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December 12, 2018, 12:26:13 PM
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Miss universe is very unpredictable because the final judgement will be base on the question and answer portion.
They maybe have the beauty but I don't see any value on that odds, in short not betting on the Philippines or South Africa.

 
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December 12, 2018, 12:39:07 PM
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Sorry, but I'm with m0glie on this. I'm all for engendering empowerment and deobjectification of women, but this Ms Universe competition has never been about more than beauty and popularity - despite all pretenses otherwise. I'll risk saying all the inappropriate things here haha.

Latina looks generally win this contest, which helps explain Philippine chances, and if any of you are from Southeast Asia, you might notice our country representatives are almost always with a Caucasian parent, and hardly speak with local dialects, with very Western accents... again reflecting the local perceptions that exotic foreignness is attractive.

I may have watched this with mild interest if my country's Ms World had participated as she's from my ethnic background, her cultural skill with a traditional music instrument and dance would have wowed audiences heh heh. As it is, our Ms Universe rep has no character, so I'm going to go with a safe winner from South America.

@DS. A lot of arbitrage opportunities thanks to Fairlay Wink Not willing to risk a bankroll though haha.

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Miss universe is very unpredictable because the final judgement will be base on the question and answer portion.
They maybe have the beauty but I don't see any value on that odds, in short not betting on the Philippines or South Africa.

Well you haven't seen them answer questions yet right? Though probably all of them have beauty and brains, the early.favorites do get an advantage going into the pageant since people will be looking for them. And ms. Phil and SA are making noise this early.

 
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but it looks like no one is betting on them neither on nitrogensports nor on fairlay. Alright, we'll see. Looking forward for the results.


There should be a rule that only bikini pictures of the candidates are allowed to be posted in this thread hehehe.

Fairlay is a betting exchange? That might explain why the odds there very different from Nitrogensports. Sportsbooks odds are calculated by professional oddsmakers.

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Sportsbooks odds are calculated by professional oddsmakers.

Not for all events. For props like these, odds are based on volume. If a large number of people bet on South Africa to win on Nitrogen, the odds are going to go down to discourage people from adding more money so that Nitrogen doesn't take a huge loss if South Africa wins. Nitrogen odds usually start as Pinnacle odds with added juice, and Pinnacle still has South Africa @ 11.01. Fairlay right now seems to be straight up Pinnacle odds.

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Better odds for some countries on Fairlay. Most notable South Africa which is @ 11.01 on Fairlay versus @ 4.5 on Nitrogen.

Thats such a large gap, cant someone arbitrage that bet and win either way or I guess that might depend what level both lock at.    i wonder if its possible to lay this bet.

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Miss South Africa and Miss Philippines are leading again like last year, I reckon. Are they unquestionably that good?

I can see they are both amazing looking.   I dont even like Asian women normally but she definitely looks a possible winner.    The feminist outrage on this must be off the scale, not just the contest but then betting on it, oh dear.     Its ideal for the bet industry because its impossible to say, attraction is totally a personal judgement and everyone has their own bias.    Almost nobody will be judging correctly or able to figure out the exact factors unless they earn a pretty penny already as a model talent scout or photographer perhaps but fairly close to random imo

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The feminist outrage on this must be off the scale, not just the contest but then betting on it, oh dear.     Its ideal for the bet industry because its impossible to say, attraction is totally a personal judgement and everyone has their own bias.    Almost nobody will be judging correctly or able to figure out the exact factors unless they earn a pretty penny already as a model talent scout or photographer perhaps but fairly close to random imo

Beauty is only about 50% of the eye in the beholder and the rest is pretty objective -- at a subconscious level people tend to be more attracted to succinct features of symmetry as they are a sign of strong, healthy genetics, as textbook as it sounds. But yeah its like if each country is already sending one of their best representatives (or best) of beauty, how does one pick out from among those which are the _most_ beautiful? Maybe it is just who can appeal the most to a worldwide audience, or more specifically to the judges tasked with the decision.

I remember betting on Miss Belgium a couple of years ago because she was smoking hot, but she was just a bit too blonde bombshell for the rest of the world.

Filipinas do have that global look because of a nice combination of heritages -- multiracial people tend to be subconsciously desirable because the mixing of genes is healthy for the species.

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If you look back it seems that the latina type is probably the most successfull because it appeals both to caucasian, latinos and black people which makes a heck big part of the world.

Exactly. That's why I think that Vanessa Villars has big chances to win the beauty pageant. Maybe she looks "too Caucasian" on that pic from the Miss Universe official site, but here's another picture of her which I think can be liked by people of all races:



Now it's really interesting, for the first time in my life probably, who will win this competition.
 

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Fairlay is a betting exchange? That might explain why the odds there very different from Nitrogensports. Sportsbooks odds are calculated by professional oddsmakers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that odds are calculated automatically without any involvment of professional oddsmakers. The mechanism of calculation is a pretty simple one: the more people are betting on a particular contestant on a site, the lower the odds for her on this site, and vice versa. That's why the odds differ from site to site so much in some cases.

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I don't really understand how they select a winner, everyone who goes there is obviously very pretty, otherwise they wouldn't be there. These people are the most beautiful people in their country for that year and they are competing against each other but all of them are incredibly pretty as it is, how do you select the most beautiful one among all of those.

For example miss Philippines seems like the biggest candidate but what makes her prettier than say miss Iceland ? Doesn't the preference has a play in this ? For example I would prefer someone with white skin and blonde hair and blue eyes, which is miss Iceland to me, however this doesn't mean she will be selected because there are judges on there, maybe judges prefer mixed race, wouldn't that automatically give Iceland worse chance ? I mean I give examples of Iceland and Philippines because one is not given any chance at all and the other seems favorite in a subjective race.
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Didn't know people actually bet on Miss Universe Smiley, For what it's worth Miss Congeniality is a pretty good movie.  I think the whole competition is a bit ridiculous though, on one hand women don't like being objectified but they have no problem being judged based on their looks in this contest...
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December 13, 2018, 04:22:35 PM
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It's was my first time to see this kind of gambling but if we the odds, the greater the value, it's difficult to predict the winner.
This is the example of combination crypto gambling industry that attract people to gamble on anything.

I'm expecting E-Sport gambling for crypto coming soon,right ?

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