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December 12, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
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I have got my account banned
http://prntscr.com/ltze4c

Link to my previous account - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1477559

How often are ban appeal looked into?
Also are we told the actual reason for banned account? Like in my case its mentioned either plagiarism or spamming but which one of that?

But honestly I did not do any sort of spamming or plagiarism. I do agree in few of my starting post I did post some lazy comment for Airdrop campaign of which one of my post even got deleted recently but lately I tried to make sure thing were decent enough. And I see my account as banned today which is making me feel nervous since I had 800+ post with active participation in bounty program and now to make a new account and again making is as the previous one will surely take time.

So is there any chance to get this account back?

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December 12, 2018, 12:29:56 PM
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Permanently banned means everything, you're banned forever. And ban appeals are never looked into as it's doesn't worth since 99.999% people have been banned accordingly to the forum's rules. Don't know why you got banned but pretty sure the reason is valid though and sorry to disappoint you but You have no chance to get your account unbanned.

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December 12, 2018, 12:32:06 PM
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If you got an Perma ban your account is banned forever and you are not allowed anymore to post in the Forum !

Also you are not allowed to post anywhere else with your new account as only in this thread !

I guess you got banned for Spamming or plagiarism  , but i think if i look at your post history it was spamming !

But to know it realy you have to wait for an Global Moderator to get the right answer or the User that reported you !
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December 12, 2018, 12:34:27 PM
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Permanently banned means everything, you're banned forever. And ban appeals are never looked into as it's doesn't worth since 99.999% people have been banned accordingly to the forum's rules. Don't know why you got banned but pretty sure the reason is valid though and sorry to disappoint you but You have no chance to get your account unbanned.

But friend you can go through my last post to N number of pages here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1477559;sa=showPosts

I do agree in start I did few airdrops where the post quality was not upto the mark but check lately if you find anything which ask for the action for PERMANENT BAN?
Dont you think there should atleast be another chance for this?

I am lately pretty much addicted to this forum and surely would like to get another chance for same.




If you got an Perma ban your account is banned forever and you are not allowed anymore to post in the Forum !

Also you are not allowed to post anywhere else with your new account as only in this thread !

I guess you got banned for Spamming or plagiarism  , but i think if i look at your post history it was spamming !

But to know it realy you have to wait for an Global Moderator to get the right answer or the User that reported you !

Where could you find spamming in that?
I am an bounty hunter who participate in translation bounty.

We are asked to keep the bounty thread active and that is what I was doing.

Everyone in translation bounty does the same.

Also If I am not allowed to open a new account, how am I suppose to continue my participation in already working translation bounty campaign?
Without updating thread periodically, I will not receive anything for the work I have done till now.
Please some Global Moderator, please help me with this.
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December 12, 2018, 12:55:10 PM
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That is a permanent banned I don't think there is any thing you can do about that and your chances of getting your ban appeal looked at is slim, one thing we need to learn first in this forum is the rule that guides the activities in the forum and make sure we understand them in other not to violate the rules that will result into punishment such at this.
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I have got my account banned
http://prntscr.com/ltze4c

Link to my previous account - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1477559



It says the reason in the ban now. You were probably banned for spam or plagiarism, and in this case that's true:

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe.

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe. Indian NRI CEO is key factor. Indian have very Broad Mind and they know how to increase growth.
Thank team 4New

Also If I am not allowed to open a new account, how am I suppose to continue my participation in already working translation bounty campaign?
Without updating thread periodically, I will not receive anything for the work I have done till now.


You can't. This is like getting fired from a workplace and asking "but how will I do my work".

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December 12, 2018, 02:09:05 PM
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I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe. Indian NRI CEO is key factor. Indian have very Broad Mind and they know how to increase growth.
Thank team 4New

I have myself mentioned that I did had few low quality post but those were at the start.
You cant expect a person to be a perfect without doing any mistakes. I did made mistake but I learned quickly from that and have not repeated same again.
You have to go through my profile for 40 pages and to find a 6 month old post.
And even if that post is spam, you do need to consider its one in many post and I am not doing anything lately like that so dont you think Permanent ban is severe enough warning in my case?



Also If I am not allowed to open a new account, how am I suppose to continue my participation in already working translation bounty campaign?
Without updating thread periodically, I will not receive anything for the work I have done till now.

You can't. This is like getting fired from a workplace and asking "but how will I do my work".

I do understand that I cant do the job if I am fired from a workplace but I do feel the crime I did is not that severe to fire me for permanent time.
If it would have been a timely ban providing me a warning I surely would have consider.
Please do give a thought to this also.


Any Global Moderator here for help?

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December 12, 2018, 02:14:54 PM
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Any Global Moderator here for help?
hilariousetc IS a Global Moderator. That's just his second account (the main one is hilariousandco).

You already got your answer. You can't keep posting in this forum and you can't keep "working" in your translation bounty campaigns. It doesn't matter if you think you needed a warning, or a temporary ban, or whatever. Almost every day there is a new user banned here for the same thing, and no one ever gets a second chance.

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December 12, 2018, 02:39:31 PM
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Any Global Moderator here for help?
hilariousetc IS a Global Moderator. That's just his second account (the main one is hilariousandco).

You already got your answer. You can't keep posting in this forum and you can't keep "working" in your translation bounty campaigns. It doesn't matter if you think you needed a warning, or a temporary ban, or whatever. Almost every day there is a new user banned here for the same thing, and no one ever gets a second chance.

Firstly thanks for letting me know he is a Global moderator.
Secondly, Sir have you ever gone through my profile before directly stating that? If not I request you to please go through it once. Check all my recent post to cross check if I am actually a spammer.

Which user according to you got banned for the post done more then 6 months before?
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December 12, 2018, 02:48:53 PM
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hilariousetc IS a Global Moderator. That's just his second account (the main one is hilariousandco).

You already got your answer. You can't keep posting in this forum and you can't keep "working" in your translation bounty campaigns. It doesn't matter if you think you needed a warning, or a temporary ban, or whatever. Almost every day there is a new user banned here for the same thing, and no one ever gets a second chance.

Firstly thanks for letting me know he is a Global moderator.
Secondly, Sir have you ever gone through my profile before directly stating that? If not I request you to please go through it once. Check all my recent post to cross check if I am actually a spammer.

Which user according to you got banned for the post done more then 6 months before?

Please, read my post again. Where exactly did I say that you are a spammer?

All I said was: YOU BROKE THE RULES, SO NOW YOU FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. You don't choose which consequences you will face - thus it doesn't matter if you think a single offense from X months ago isn't worth a ban. The mod, the one with the authority in this forum, said that you will remain banned, so you will. End of the story. Cry all you want, but nothing will change, nor you will get a second chance.

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December 12, 2018, 03:09:21 PM
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Ban appeal are very much looked into if you can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that your not guilty as charged then your ban can be lifted

Well realistically it ban placed on members has always be correct if I researched well and I still stand to be corrected it has only been once that a ban appeal was accepted and ban lifted
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December 12, 2018, 03:43:23 PM
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hilariousetc IS a Global Moderator. That's just his second account (the main one is hilariousandco).

You already got your answer. You can't keep posting in this forum and you can't keep "working" in your translation bounty campaigns. It doesn't matter if you think you needed a warning, or a temporary ban, or whatever. Almost every day there is a new user banned here for the same thing, and no one ever gets a second chance.

Firstly thanks for letting me know he is a Global moderator.
Secondly, Sir have you ever gone through my profile before directly stating that? If not I request you to please go through it once. Check all my recent post to cross check if I am actually a spammer.

Which user according to you got banned for the post done more then 6 months before?

Please, read my post again. Where exactly did I say that you are a spammer?

All I said was: YOU BROKE THE RULES, SO NOW YOU FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. You don't choose which consequences you will face - thus it doesn't matter if you think a single offense from X months ago isn't worth a ban. The mod, the one with the authority in this forum, said that you will remain banned, so you will. End of the story. Cry all you want, but nothing will change, nor you will get a second chance.

Offense done 6 months ago costing you permanent ban seems to harsh..Agreed to what you want to convey.. If moderators feels I am guilty nothing could be done, but I feel there should be something they need to work on..
I hope few Global Moderator please go through my profile to find if I am actually a spammer or atleast provide me chance to open a new account which I could use for bounty since bounty for me is bread and butter and if its gone I dont have other earning source to work with.
Really a permanent ban for a more then 6 month old spam is too harsh.

Please look into it moderators.
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but I feel there should be something they need to work on..
Dude, the problem isn't with the moderators or with the forum.  The problem is with you.  You broke the rules, and everyone in this thread is telling you what the consequences are for doing that, and they're correct.  You're permabanned.  It doesn't matter what your other posts are or how long you've been here; you got busted for plagiarism and that's it.  It doesn't matter what you think about the rules--they're applied the same to everyone, and as far as a warning goes, if you'd bothered to actually read the rules there would be no warning or clarification necessary.

Where's the bingo card, anyway?

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December 12, 2018, 07:41:17 PM
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I have got my account banned
http://prntscr.com/ltze4c

Link to my previous account - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1477559



It says the reason in the ban now. You were probably banned for spam or plagiarism, and in this case that's true:

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe.

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe. Indian NRI CEO is key factor. Indian have very Broad Mind and they know how to increase growth.
Thank team 4New

Also If I am not allowed to open a new account, how am I suppose to continue my participation in already working translation bounty campaign?
Without updating thread periodically, I will not receive anything for the work I have done till now.


You can't. This is like getting fired from a workplace and asking "but how will I do my work".

Is this the only case or is there more? Could this be some kind of error I mean he can not really be seriously claiming this is his own work it is posted only 2 posts before his. This looks more like a airdrop thread where they all parrot the same shit getting some crumbs. It used to be okay to just do this. I don't think he is seriously trying to pass this work off as his own.

I guess if that was his only one then a coulple of  months ban and a small btc find could be enough. He seems financially motivated so hit him up for a 0.2BTC fine I expect he would never do it again.

These airdrop threads where everyone used to say the same thing over and over are junk anyway. The devs used to even say reply with "bla bla bla bla" so we all had to reply with the same " x project looks to be great I want in "

The trouble is the not really these shitty airdrop threads because nobody bothers with this now unless they are totally desperate since 99% are scams. The real offenders are the fake conversation scum in the discussion boards or the meaningless posters on the ANN threads.

Only a reasonably new account anyway so not like this person has put years of effort in and done a lot of good for the board.

Just saying if that is the only one it looks like either an quote error or certainly not someone claiming that is his own work. It was posted 2 posts before his on the same thread. Not like some who are sneakily getting posts from months before in different threads and using to get sig money or whatever.


edit.. I think since it is a fairly recent account it is pointless to contest it really. Nobody will probably be willing to see if there are more instances and he probably does not have the funds to pay any person to scan it over to find out.  Even then there has been no perm ban over turned yet... even legends so seems a long road to nowhere. Once all typing the same nonsense over and over in airdrops was allowed but it has been banned for a while i guess. To me it unfortunate to lose your account over that one instance. If i knew for sure it was just that one time I would let you off with a temp ban and even a merit reduction but I don't have any control over it.




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but I feel there should be something they need to work on..
Dude, the problem isn't with the moderators or with the forum.  The problem is with you.  You broke the rules, and everyone in this thread is telling you what the consequences are for doing that, and they're correct.  You're permabanned.  It doesn't matter what your other posts are or how long you've been here; you got busted for plagiarism and that's it.  It doesn't matter what you think about the rules--they're applied the same to everyone, and as far as a warning goes, if you'd bothered to actually read the rules there would be no warning or clarification necessary.

Where's the bingo card, anyway?

I am accepting the fact that rule was broken for spamming but that was time when Airdrop site just needed a post for there promotion purposes. I am just asking to take into consideration the other part of my story where after that post I had made around 400-500 post and that one post costing me so much means a lot of me.



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edit.. I think since it is a fairly recent account it is pointless to contest it really. Nobody will probably be willing to see if there are more instances and he probably does not have the funds to pay any person to scan it over to find out.  Even then there has been no perm ban over turned yet... even legends so seems a long road to nowhere. Once all typing the same nonsense over and over in airdrops was allowed but it has been banned for a while i guess. To me it unfortunate to lose your account over that one instance. If i knew for sure it was just that one time I would let you off with a temp ban and even a merit reduction but I don't have any control over it.

Even I am willing to know if that Permanent ban can turn into a temp ban and didnt knew the fact that till now none of permanent ban have been turned to temp one which is making me more nervous.


For those few spam post I have even tried to give something to community by trying to list scam websites, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4981560.msg45670366#msg45670366 and this I have not done to impress anyone but to give back what this community has given to me so please consider a temp ban option in this case.

Or Can Mod atleast allow me to have a new account if this ban could not be reversed which I could use ahead making sure I follow all rules? Atleast consider this( since if I dont have any spam post in last 6 months, I will make sure to continue so ahead in future.)
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Is this the only case or is there more? Could this be some kind of error I mean he can not really be seriously claiming this is his own work it is posted only 2 posts before his. This looks more like a airdrop thread where they all parrot the same shit getting some crumbs.


And a lot of people are too lazy to even write original spam. Many people copy posts from the same page because they often think they can get away with it and their posts will get lost in the spam and buried quickly by ages of the same. I can't say whether this is an isolated incident but feel free to go through his posts to see if there's more or not. There usually is but staff have better things to do than go through an entire posting history to see how many posts they've copied and that's why it's a one strike and you're out. If people don't want their accounts banned then they should make sure they're posting original content and not lazy spam.

Even I am willing to know if that Permanent ban can turn into a temp ban and didnt knew the fact that till now none of permanent ban have been turned to temp one which is making me more nervous.

Unless the rules change then in 99.9% of cases a permaban is a permanent ban.

Or Can Mod atleast allow me to have a new account if this ban could not be reversed which I could use ahead making sure I follow all rules? Atleast consider this( since if I dont have any spam post in last 6 months, I will make sure to continue so ahead in future.)

Ban evasion is neither checked for nor enforced so make of that what you will.

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December 13, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
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Is this the only case or is there more? Could this be some kind of error I mean he can not really be seriously claiming this is his own work it is posted only 2 posts before his. This looks more like a airdrop thread where they all parrot the same shit getting some crumbs.


And a lot of people are too lazy to even write original spam. Many people copy posts from the same page because they often think they can get away with it and their posts will get lost in the spam and buried quickly by ages of the same. I can't say whether this is an isolated incident but feel free to go through his posts to see if there's more or not. There usually is but staff have better things to do than go through an entire posting history to see how many posts they've copied and that's why it's a one strike and you're out. If people don't want their accounts banned then they should make sure they're posting original content and not lazy spam.

Even I am willing to know if that Permanent ban can turn into a temp ban and didnt knew the fact that till now none of permanent ban have been turned to temp one which is making me more nervous.

Unless the rules change then in 99.9% of cases a permaban is a permanent ban.

Or Can Mod atleast allow me to have a new account if this ban could not be reversed which I could use ahead making sure I follow all rules? Atleast consider this( since if I dont have any spam post in last 6 months, I will make sure to continue so ahead in future.)

Ban evasion is neither checked for nor enforced so make of that what you will.

I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?
2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

 



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I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?

Oh right, all the problems come from the $ involved with spamming the forum and the solution would be a service that also relies on fees and on some people judgment (which of course we know it's a thing that can't be bought with money) /s

2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

For a legendary, a two-level reduction means 750 merits gone they still might accept it but for lower rank means going back to zero so they might just as well start a new account which will bypass the no more sig for a year requirement.
Unfortunately, nobody is enforcing ban evasion.

About net contribution, I can give you a few names, users that were highly valued here....and it would have been far better if they would have been banned before their voluntary exit.

A person that is inclined to cheat for $ will do it again most of the times if you show him that he might actually have a chance to get away with it you're just encouraging it.

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I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?
2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

 




People won't pay anything if they know what they've done wrong. They're just going to be throwing their money away. As I said before, they only complain and play dumb about what they've done because it's their only hope of getting their account back and the is a last ditch attempt to try do so. If we started asking for payment for review then 99% just won't bother or would shut up as soon as you gave them that option.

As for number two, I'd be for signature bans instead of outright bans for spammers/plagiarism, but only theymos can implement them so it's him you'll have to convince. With that being said, a signature ban is as good as a ban to 99% of people who get caught plagiarising so in most instances they'll still complain about that and probably won't have any interest in contributing here if they can't get paid for it.

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