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November 04, 2011, 04:06:02 PM
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If you can convince them to put out price information on common things (say, weekly average $/oz or BTC/oz on weed transactions or something), we could trade futures on that. It'd probably be a bigger market than the actual drug sales. Smiley

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November 04, 2011, 04:20:52 PM
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I think it would be not very wise to publish any data for Silk Road guys - I guess they are in this for the money, and they make money by taking cut from each sale. Anything else is just a waste of time.

I guess that silk road guys/other drug sellers are not very interested in promoting bitcoin itself or its value. For them bitcoin is just handy money laundering method - if something better arises, I guess they would move to it.

It should be also noted that the values published by finley are false. He admitted using web proxy for accessing tor, and was somehow getting wrong numbers. It appears that using web proxies for tor hidden services is not recommended.

Also there isn't any way to get numbers like "users online" from silk road (unless you are silk road operator yourself).

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November 04, 2011, 06:49:03 PM
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SilkRoad will do for Bitcoin what porn did for VHS (and the Internet). But on a much smaller scale.

porn on vhs, now that will age you like nothing else!

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November 04, 2011, 09:52:01 PM
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I think it would be not very wise to publish any data for Silk Road guys - I guess they are in this for the money, and they make money by taking cut from each sale.

Not sure if thats true. As far as im aware they just take a membership fee from the vendor. Still decent cash I suppose. trading futures on drugs would be AWSOME.

"Yeh just going to take my money out of precious metals and put it into the future market of MDMA"

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November 06, 2011, 10:47:19 AM
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I think it would be not very wise to publish any data for Silk Road guys - I guess they are in this for the money, and they make money by taking cut from each sale.
This would certainly be in Silk Roads interest. It would most likely result in another media blitz that would draw even more attention and users to them.

And I don't think the person running the site is in it only for the money. He also seems to be a pretty dedicated anarchocapitalist so a lot of the commitment behind Silk Road seem to be ideology.
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November 06, 2011, 12:45:29 PM
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I do not believe that SR is a real black marketplace. I mean c'mon, DEA publishes a fake product and you just give them your home address. You have to be high to believe that is a real business. This has to be a big joke on the Bitcoin community, right?

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November 06, 2011, 12:53:40 PM
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I do not believe that SR is a real black marketplace. I mean c'mon, DEA publishes a fake product and you just give them your home address. You have to be high to believe that is a real business. This has to be a big joke on the Bitcoin community, right?
or your neighbor, or some pickup address. there are still plausible denial.

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November 06, 2011, 01:14:48 PM
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I do not believe that SR is a real black marketplace. I mean c'mon, DEA publishes a fake product and you just give them your home address. You have to be high to believe that is a real business. This has to be a big joke on the Bitcoin community, right?
or your neighbor, or some pickup address. there are still plausible denial.

The DEA can place a tracking device in the package. You pick up the package and they knock on your door. This SR thing smells of psyops.

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November 06, 2011, 02:28:20 PM
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I do not believe that SR is a real black marketplace. I mean c'mon, DEA publishes a fake product and you just give them your home address. You have to be high to believe that is a real business. This has to be a big joke on the Bitcoin community, right?
or your neighbor, or some pickup address. there are still plausible denial.

The DEA can place a tracking device in the package. You pick up the package and they knock on your door. This SR thing smells of psyops.

Do you know how much those tracking devices cost? Wait, do you know how much it costs for the DEA to investigate and prosecute someone? I really don't think the DEA is all that worried about some Joe Blow purchasing a quarter oz of weed and 500mg of MDMA. Let's not fail to mention that there is literally NOTHING linking the buyer to the purchase - that'll go over well in court, won't it? I have a feeling that the DEA is more interested in the sellers at this point, and the operator of the site more than anyone else.

Get real man, psyops? Really? The worst thing that could happen to you is your package is tagged and you get a knock asking you to assist on an investigation in regards the seller. Even that's highly unlikely.

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Because of the Great FireWall in China, you can't imagine how hard it is to connect to the Tor network.

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There's only 5000 users registerd,
1000 pieces of goods on sale (90% are drugs),
concurrently less than 50 users online top,
and i bet less than $1k goods are sold everyday.

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You should be glad you finally got tor working - now you can actually use the real world wide web. It'd be nice if everyone in China could use tor.

In reference to your numbers, you're way off. There may only be 1000 items for sale, but you can't see the quantity behind those numbers. People in this business are professional - they have plenty of stock. I'd imagine that number is more like around 10 - 20k

You can't see how many people are online or registered at SR - I have no idea where you got that number.

As far as your daily currency movement goes, trying multiplying that by 10 to 20.. possibly more - those are just estimates based on what little one can observe from the outside.

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November 07, 2011, 09:41:43 AM
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Do you know how much those tracking devices cost? Wait, do you know how much it costs for the DEA to investigate and prosecute someone? I really don't think the DEA is all that worried about some Joe Blow purchasing a quarter oz of weed and 500mg of MDMA. Let's not fail to mention that there is literally NOTHING linking the buyer to the purchase

I am not sure why anyone at this point wouldn't think they would be going after buyers just for the same fact that you listed.  Though nothing links them in theory, people do trace transactions going on in the Bitcoin network, enough where shit like this exists https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50037.0 , so it seems to be an ongoing battle at the moment.  Winning or not, I think it is silly to think they wouldn't fight this thing if they don't even have to get up from their computer to check on it.

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November 07, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
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Does China block Tor bootstrapping process? Do You have to use Tor bridges?
I do not believe that SR is a real black marketplace. I mean c'mon, DEA publishes a fake product and you just give them your home address. You have to be high to believe that is a real business. This has to be a big joke on the Bitcoin community, right?
The Silk Road ir real, purchased ganja from it and it was probably the highest quality ganja I smoked and absolute quality/price winner by multiple orders of magnitude. Just see it for yourself. Just don't be stupid.

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November 07, 2011, 01:48:03 PM
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purchased ganja from it and it was probably the highest quality ganja I smoked and absolute quality/price winner by multiple orders of magnitude. Just see it for yourself.

That's real smart.

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November 07, 2011, 01:51:59 PM
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Weird, weed is probably the last thing I would order from such a service.

Mysteryminer is speaking hypothetical of course, lol  Roll Eyes

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November 07, 2011, 01:52:25 PM
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purchased ganja from it and it was probably the highest quality ganja I smoked and absolute quality/price winner by multiple orders of magnitude. Just see it for yourself.

That's real smart.

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Just don't be stupid.

The irony.

Purchasing small amounts of marijuana via postal service is not very risky. Even if you get caught the result is maybe a small fine.

Of course using drugs in the first place isn't very smart, but if you are going to use them, ordering them from silk road would actually be safer than buying them from the streets. Don't have to deal with shady people.

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November 07, 2011, 01:54:52 PM
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purchased ganja from it and it was probably the highest quality ganja I smoked and absolute quality/price winner by multiple orders of magnitude. Just see it for yourself.

That's real smart.

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Just don't be stupid.

The irony.

Purchasing small amounts of marijuana via postal service is not very risky. Even if you get caught the result is maybe a small fine.

Of course using drugs in the first place isn't very smart, but if you are going to use them, ordering them from silk road would actually be safer than buying them from the streets. Don't have to deal with shady people in person.

  fixed it for ya. ;p

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November 07, 2011, 02:09:28 PM
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Purchasing small amounts of marijuana via postal service is not very risky. Even if you get caught the result is maybe a small fine.


That really depends on what state you live in. Some people it's a small fine and a misdeameanor charge. Others, it could be a felony. Before anybody orders ANY contraband, they should research their local laws to find out exactly how much you can "safely" order.

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November 07, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
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Purchasing small amounts of marijuana via postal service is not very risky. Even if you get caught the result is maybe a small fine.


That really depends on what state you live in. Some people it's a small fine and a misdeameanor charge. Others, it could be a felony. Before anybody orders ANY contraband, they should research their local laws to find out exactly how much you can "safely" order.

   Aye, this and it depends where to. The laws may or may not carry differnt penalties or classifications depending what state and/or federal borders your package crosses.

   As with anything in life, use them spare brain cells to weigh the costs verse the benefits of any endeavour...

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November 07, 2011, 03:21:43 PM
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trading futures on drugs would be AWSOME.

"Yeh just going to take my money out of precious metals and put it into the future market of MDMA"

WIN

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November 07, 2011, 05:52:22 PM
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Silk road is going to open a drugs futures market? DRUGEX

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November 07, 2011, 08:57:28 PM
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But that depends on the substance... for downers, can you buy shares for the us military (afganistan)?
Uppers... various base materials, lab equipment and shares from used cardealerships.
Psychedelica... fund chemists and math student loans  Tongue
Weed... sponsor the occupy movement  Cheesy

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