You are buying that bitcointalk account at your own risk

[kingpin4321]

Well it's obvious that the selling and buying of bct account is still going on and this heinous crime is not looking to end soon.  I see ads my individuals wanting to sell bitcoin talk account of ranks above Jr member.

In my own opinion buying a bitcoin talk account is more of a disadvantage to the buyer an existing member for some certain reasons(holidays, needs fund urgently, sick etc) might wish to sell there BCH account and a buyer gets it then when he or she decides to come back would head to meta with a new account and report it as stolen, hacked or so on(they have the bitcoin address signed message) then a rift would likely breakout which might leave the account in question with a negative trust tag.

There is no short cut to success you have to work for what ever you would get. Never engage in buying of bitcoin talk account work on your own personal bitcoin talk account and anyone wanting to sell account to you is obviously a criminal and it would be crazy to trust a criminal

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[RussaX]

Well it's obvious that the selling and buying of bct account is still going on and this heinous crime is not looking to end soon.  I see ads my individuals wanting to sell bitcoin talk account of ranks above Jr member.

In my own opinion buying a bitcoin talk account is more of a disadvantage to the buyer an existing member for some certain reasons(holidays, needs fund urgently, sick etc) might wish to sell there BCH account and a buyer gets it then when he or she decides to come back would head to meta with a new account and report it as stolen, hacked or so on(they have the bitcoin address signed message) then a rift would likely breakout which might leave the account in question with a negative trust tag.

There is no short cut to success you have to work for what ever you would get. Never engage in buying of bitcoin talk account work on your own personal bitcoin talk account and anyone wanting to sell account to you is obviously a criminal and it would be crazy to trust a criminal

What makes you think that someone selling account is a criminal? Maybe they are done with the forum and want to get any value out of it since there is some willing to buy it.

It happens in many places but even more on trading or market related forums. In most of the places it is not allowed to trade or use multiple accounts but it still happens. Over here staff made it clear that this does happen and they will not mask it to make you feel that it does not happen.

Is it right? Completely no. Clear indiaction of buying account might be associated with potential scam which can exploit trust of account gained by the previous owner. If it's not scam related then it will most likely be that user is trying to make money by doing bounty campaigns.

It is a pity because it significantly drops the value of account and it makes you lose the trust where you will question wether someone is a genuine or not.

[joniboini]

There are too many generalizations and unclear definition on your statements. I do agree that buying/selling account is a shady activity, but there's no clear evidence to judge everyone who does that as 'criminal'.

I really hate this account trading business because it contributes to spam, possibly helps in scamming other persons and etc. But most of the account trading (at least in my local sub) happens because people wanted to have a high-ranked account to join a signature campaign. They don't have the ability and time to rank-up, hence they wanted to have a short-cut. Are they criminals? Not really (before there's evidence to suggest so). But a lot of them end up getting scammed. So if there's someone who wanted to do this, there's definitely a great risk that they must bear on their own.

[vagrom]

I do see a transaction with a bitcointalk account, but the average person should not dare to buy it.

[mk4]

People(probably at least 90% of the buyers) look at it mostly as a shortcut for them to be able to join signature or bounty campaigns in general immediately(hence buying and selling of bitcointalk accounts is heavily frowned upon here on Bitcointalk), or because they're not knowledgeable enough to earn merit, which is really unfortunate.

But yea, there are definitely some that buys accounts to be able to look quite "reputable", to be able to more effectively scam people.

[Onuohakk]

People would always want something on a platter of gold they won't want to Break a sweat to achieve what they want. Selling an account should be a criminal offense and can in the long run be menace to the forum let's say the previous users was articulated in his or her posting now sold it to an obvious lazy person the account would turn into a spam house or even be guilty of copy and pasting.

IMO trading of bitcoin talk account should be disallowed and offenders should be punished besides it not allowed in other platforms

[DdmrDdmr]

Normally, these account trades take place offsite (although some have the cheek to announce their sale on threads on the forum), so there is no knowing the dimension of it. It clearly takes place in order to participate in campaigns, and have larger stakes, or any at all, as things seem to stand with the Jr. Member 1 merit requirement (not that it should be difficult to obtain by regular posting, but anyway).

The trade there is basically an investment (wishfully) on the buyer’s side, and as such, it is subject to all the classical pitfalls that can make things go wrong, such as:

-   The sell could be a fraud, and they do not get an account in return.

-   The sold account could actually compromised, in process of being banned.

-   The sold account could be a result of a hack, and therefore, once reported, be blocked.

-   The sell/buy process could come to light, and get the implied accounts red-tagged (and therefore not eligible for campaign participation).

-   The buyer will have a different posting style (although one-liner crap is different to tell apart), and may rouse some suspicions that lead to other’s keeping an eye out for breaking any rules.

Above it, there should be the moral side to it. Taking shortcuts is human nature, and cheaters will often take pride in doing so, but there is no achievement in the process other that fooling the system into getting some likely low-valued token at best.

[manishanand]

normally people do not easily sell their account but there are some who do and scam most people and only few buyers get the account and who buy the account never gets an advantage.
KEEP THIS IN MIND !!!

[nakamura12]

Not all account sellers are criminal (i'm not on their side), yes you are right about buying bitcointalk account is disadvantage to the buyers and it may result in scam or fraud and there are sellers that sell bitcointalk account for the same reason as the buyers to earn bitcoin through selling of accounts for btc.

[bitmover]

Not all account sellers are criminal (i'm not on their side), yes you are right about buying bitcointalk account is disadvantage to the buyers and it may result in scam or fraud and there are sellers that sell bitcointalk account for the same reason as the buyers to earn bitcoin through selling of accounts for btc.

Well they are not criminals, but that's an attitude against the forum rules, and both the seller and the buyer are untrustworthy. If anyone discovers you are using a bought account, it will be tagged and become basically useless.

Also, those accounts for sale are mostly hacked accounts, so yeah, some criminal activity may be involved.

Or those accounts may be fr a user who made many accounts just to spam the forum, trying to get some money from it without contributing to anything...

[cokroalif]

I don't think if the account being sold is a stolen account, if that's the case maybe the owner will report to the bitcointalk admin, I never bought it and also I never sell it, this is an account to find information based on what I want in the forum bitcointalk

[ukloon]

To reduce bitcointalk accounts being sold i think the ranking process needs to be made a bit easier. Getting to member status is doable, but anything above that is virtually impossible hence the dodgy market for BCT accounts

[DdmrDdmr]

To reduce bitcointalk accounts being sold i think the ranking process needs to be made a bit easier. Getting to member status is doable, but anything above that is virtually impossible hence the dodgy market for BCT accounts

I think account sales have been around for quite some time, as a means to cut corners and skip the line, but are likely more expensive and coveted under the Merit System reign.
I concur that achieving one of the higher ranks is somewhat a chimera now for many, even simply moving one rank ahead (i.e. Sr. Member to Hero), but the solution in my opinion is down to getting a greater overall of merit in the system, enabling decent poster to rank-up at a pace similar to what was required before (the equivalent now would require on to earn a merit per day in addition to the activity factor).

Currently, the Merit System has allowed to the following amount of forum members to rank-up:
5 Hero Members to Legendary
17 Sr. Members to Hero Member
5 Full Members to Hero Member
60 Full Members to Sr. Member
8 Member to Sr. Member
77 Member to Full Member
16 Newbies to Sr. Member
69 Newbies to Full Member
2.968 Newbies to Member
9.053 Newbies to Jr. Member

That is 12.279 people who have managed to rank-up at least one level, although the higher ranks are particularly scarce in achievement ...

[jeromix]

Buying account is useless because users here considered the BCT accounts worthy. Just in case that a user will going to sell or you will going to buy an account then probably after using that account change personal details on it then the true owner will come in and will ask for the DT to red tag the owner's account being sold to the buyer and it will become useless after the red tag for bounty managers will not accept red trust BCT accounts to join in the bounty program.

[Gloverwrt]

Well it's obvious that the selling and buying of bct account is still going on and this heinous crime is not looking to end soon.

Account sales is not against the forum rules although it is discouraged. And it is not 'looked into' or regulated by the forum administrators.
Account sales is a risky venture, and has little gains as you do not earn the rank you buy.
It takes a lot of effort to build up an account to a certain rank, this shapes your knowledge on the forum and about cryotocurrency in general, which you would be lacking if you buy such rank.

[Juggy777]

To reduce bitcointalk accounts being sold i think the ranking process needs to be made a bit easier. Getting to member status is doable, but anything above that is virtually impossible hence the dodgy market for BCT accounts

I have never liked the idea of people selling their accounts, as it leads to more spamming on the forum. These accounts are brought with the purposes of joining signature campaigns, acting as escrows and tricking newbies due to their high rank status or market themselves as campaign managers. I don't think the ranking process needs a revisit, as accounts were brought and sold before too, the ranking system has effectively lowered spam posts here and I would not touch the merit system.

[Lucius]

I am against the sale of accounts here on forum, as we know it can lead to unwanted consequences seen countless times on the forum. This particularly applies to higher rank accounts (Senior-Legendary), which in the wrong hands pose a danger to forum members, especially those inexperienced.

Currently, the Merit System has allowed to the following amount of forum members to rank-up:
5 Hero Members to Legendary
17 Sr. Members to Hero Member
5 Full Members to Hero Member
60 Full Members to Sr. Member
8 Member to Sr. Member
That is 12.279 people who have managed to rank-up at least one level, although the higher ranks are particularly scarce in achievement ...

This is very interesting statistics, especially as regards higher ranks, only 5 Hero members become Legendary in the time since the merit system was introduced, 500 merits is not easy task, even for the most inexperienced ones.

I think that the demand for bitcointalk accounts may become even bigger, it probably depend on the BTC price - if price go up, we see a big increase in interest for cryptocurrency which is reflected in the end at this forum.

My advice is not to buy bitcointalk accounts, in most cases you can be scamed by seller or your new account can be tagged by DT member.

[Hivalley]

To reduce bitcointalk accounts being sold i think the ranking process needs to be made a bit easier. Getting to member status is doable, but anything above that is virtually impossible hence the dodgy market for BCT accounts

Very true I must say,the difference from member to full member is a staggering 90 merits,definitely it's achievable,but it makes things so difficult even for the good poster
If it were to be reduced a least to a considerably feasible amount then most users would not bother about buying accounts with their hard earned money and still risk losing the account either through the seller claiming he or she was hacked or of they mess up and get tagged

[DdmrDdmr]

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The theoretical adequate average merit to earn, in order for merit not to be a ranking barrier for the decent posters, would be roughly of around 1 merit per day. Nevertheless, that is really only achievable by a limited set of people, since currently, people have managed to earn the following amount of merits:

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nMerits	      nUsers
a) [1000++]	9
b) [500..1000)	25
c) [400..500)	23
d) [300..400)	39
e) [200..300)	80
f) [100..200)	287
g) [80..100)	162
h) [60..80)	188
i) [40..60)	440
j) [20..40)	1175
k) [10..20)	4240
l) [5..10)	2923
m) [1..5)	15737 

Of course it depends on when each account was created (the more recent the account, the less amount of merits likely) but out of the 25.328 merited people, 463 have managed to earn 100 merits or above. The figure goes down to 176 people making 200 merits or above, and just 96 have earned 300 merits or above (this latter figure is in the merit per day range approximately).
Figures are low, and while some may vouch for lowering the merit requirement per rank, I’d rather increase the merit circulation on the forum (currently in the 3,5K-3,8K/week area), getting more people enrolled in the game both as Senders and Receivers.

Higher ranks are now way more difficult to reach than before, and require quite some effort, time, and differentiation to achieve. It is doable, as seen above, but not easy. It isn’t meant to be easy, but the number of users that are now ranking-up may be running low if the objective of the Merit System was to separate the chaff.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Higher ranks are now way more difficult to reach than before, and require quite some effort, time, and differentiation to achieve. It is doable, as seen above

True it's doable That's why it's more Profitable to build your account from scratch instead of looking for a shortcut by buying higher ranked account. The risk in buying of accounts is even higher than that of investing in icos😀. Instead of wasting that fund on account or smerit buying invest it on yourself, improving your writting skrill and sit back to watch the outcome. Sure it'll take time but at last it'll be worth the wait.