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March 10, 2014, 03:44:36 AM
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Hello!

This is just for educational purposes. We know that Satoshi has an enormous amount of bitcoins and that he has not moved them for a long time. I think we also know the bitcoin addresses containing those bitcoins.

What if someone wanted to steal those bitcoins? They would need both the public key and private key of the address. I know that it would take an enormous amount of time but is this technically doable?

Also, would mining pools be able to push to their clients a script to find those public and private keys? These pools have nowadays an enormous calculation power.
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March 10, 2014, 03:46:23 AM
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This has been discussed before. To brute force a private key would take ages.

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March 10, 2014, 03:48:07 AM
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Hello!

This is just for educational purposes. We know that Satoshi has an enormous amount of bitcoins and that he has not moved them for a long time. I think we also know the bitcoin addresses containing those bitcoins.

What if someone wanted to steal those bitcoins? They would need both the public key and private key of the address. I know that it would take an enormous amount of time but is this technically doable?

Also, would mining pools be able to push to their clients a script to find those public and private keys? These pools have nowadays an enormous calculation power.

run vanity gen using the first few characters of his address to get the privkey...

... see you in a thousand years once you get that exact key.

much easier to find out his real identity and raid his computer, oops people are already doing that but finding innocent outsiders instead, poor dorian

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March 10, 2014, 03:49:53 AM
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once in a while a dumbass come here and ask the same question.....

then he wonders why hes called dumb
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March 10, 2014, 03:49:56 AM
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I have an issue with this, why can that picture use a Dyson sphere which is theoretically doable if we have the technology, but it cant be bothered to add in a quantum computer which is being actively worked on right now by governments and corporations?

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March 10, 2014, 03:50:28 AM
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I know it would take eons but can we define the number of tries that we would need and the time needed to generate each try?
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March 10, 2014, 03:51:30 AM
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once in a while a dumbass come here and ask the same question.....

then he wonders why hes called dumb

Thanks, I love this spirit.
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March 10, 2014, 03:51:56 AM
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Hello!

This is just for educational purposes. We know that Satoshi has an enormous amount of bitcoins and that he has not moved them for a long time. I think we also know the bitcoin addresses containing those bitcoins.

What if someone wanted to steal those bitcoins? They would need both the public key and private key of the address. I know that it would take an enormous amount of time but is this technically doable?

Also, would mining pools be able to push to their clients a script to find those public and private keys? These pools have nowadays an enormous calculation power.

run vanity gen using the first few characters of his address to get the privkey...

... see you in a thousand years once you get that exact key.

much easier to find out his real identity and raid his computer, oops people are already doing that but finding innocent outsiders instead, poor dorian

This is also a very serious concern with things like the MtGox database leak. Now everybody will know the real identities of all the top gox bitcoiners.

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March 10, 2014, 03:52:17 AM
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I have an issue with this, why can that picture use a Dyson sphere which is theoretically doable if we have the technology, but it cant be bothered to add in a quantum computer which is being actively worked on right now by governments and corporations?

The picture is of the sun.  It is not known if a quantum computer capable of implementing shor's algorithm on 256 bit ECDSA keys will ever be possible.  Even with a quantum computer if the pubkey is unknown Shor's algorithm can't be used.
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March 10, 2014, 04:00:20 AM
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I have an issue with this, why can that picture use a Dyson sphere which is theoretically doable if we have the technology, but it cant be bothered to add in a quantum computer which is being actively worked on right now by governments and corporations?

The picture is of the sun.  It is not known if a quantum computer capable of implementing shor's algorithm on 256 bit ECDSA keys will ever be possible.  Even with a quantum computer if the pubkey is unknown Shor's algorithm can't be used.


I know its a star.......but did you read the text? You would think that if a civilization can construct a Dyson sphere they would have something better than windows 7...........

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March 10, 2014, 04:01:34 AM
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I have an issue with this, why can that picture use a Dyson sphere which is theoretically doable if we have the technology, but it cant be bothered to add in a quantum computer which is being actively worked on right now by governments and corporations?

The picture is of the sun.  It is not known if a quantum computer capable of implementing shor's algorithm on 256 bit ECDSA keys will ever be possible.  Even with a quantum computer if the pubkey is unknown Shor's algorithm can't be used.


I know its a star.......but did you read the text? You would think that if a civilization can construct a Dyson sphere they would have something better than windows 7...........

Windows 8 :p I hear its all the rage.

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March 10, 2014, 04:02:02 AM
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I have an issue with this, why can that picture use a Dyson sphere which is theoretically doable if we have the technology, but it cant be bothered to add in a quantum computer which is being actively worked on right now by governments and corporations?

The picture is of the sun.  It is not known if a quantum computer capable of implementing shor's algorithm on 256 bit ECDSA keys will ever be possible.  Even with a quantum computer if the pubkey is unknown Shor's algorithm can't be used.

I thought it was a Schrodinger cat if that case happened bitcoin is and is not destroyed
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March 10, 2014, 04:04:22 AM
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Why would anyone want to even figure out a way to steal the coins? It would destroy Bitcoin, would it not?
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March 10, 2014, 04:05:35 AM
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Why would anyone want to even figure out a way to steal the coins? It would destroy Bitcoin, would it not?

How would it destroy bitcoin?

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March 10, 2014, 04:07:01 AM
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a 'fatal' flaw in bitcoin ... Thats something I've always feared.

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March 10, 2014, 04:09:44 AM
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Why would anyone want to even figure out a way to steal the coins? It would destroy Bitcoin, would it not?

How would it destroy bitcoin?

I figure it would just show how weak Bitcoin is security wise. I figure it would just destroy it's credibility.  I could easily be wrong, that's just the way I see it.
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March 10, 2014, 04:10:34 AM
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Hello!

This is just for educational purposes. We know that Satoshi has an enormous amount of bitcoins and that he has not moved them for a long time. I think we also know the bitcoin addresses containing those bitcoins.

What if someone wanted to steal those bitcoins? They would need both the public key and private key of the address. I know that it would take an enormous amount of time but is this technically doable?

Also, would mining pools be able to push to their clients a script to find those public and private keys? These pools have nowadays an enormous calculation power.

run vanity gen using the first few characters of his address to get the privkey...

... see you in a thousand years once you get that exact key.

much easier to find out his real identity and raid his computer, oops people are already doing that but finding innocent outsiders instead, poor dorian

Yes that verification crap didn't work out too well.

This is also a very serious concern with things like the MtGox database leak. Now everybody will know the real identities of all the top gox bitcoiners.

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March 10, 2014, 04:33:34 AM
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I have an issue with this, why can that picture use a Dyson sphere which is theoretically doable if we have the technology, but it cant be bothered to add in a quantum computer which is being actively worked on right now by governments and corporations?

The picture is of the sun.  It is not known if a quantum computer capable of implementing shor's algorithm on 256 bit ECDSA keys will ever be possible.  Even with a quantum computer if the pubkey is unknown Shor's algorithm can't be used.

I thought it was a Schrodinger cat if that case happened bitcoin is and is not destroyed


Can I post now? (stupid 360 second rule here.....)


Ahem, only if you look at the coins Wink.

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March 10, 2014, 05:04:58 AM
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Pilfer a few nugs from the jar when's in the bathroom?  Cheesy

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March 10, 2014, 09:15:24 AM
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Like stealing Satoshi's hoard of coins would be so casual
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