Let me be clear to you, this is not a Bear Market!

[btcmaker21]

Was quiet some time not active but this guy got me going again

So a Sr.Member wants to tell us Bitcoin is in the "Support Loss Spiral" ... Same as 2013 and the drops before huh? ( beside that "(temporary) Support loss spiral" is just another definition of "bear market" )

and at the same time supporting other Cryptos? (Waves for example) while all coins acts nearly just "as a whole"

Thats Non Sense !

I Also think someone just want to spread FUD (in a very bad/cheap way)

See ya guys at 50k

Support didnt started yet just a normal market reaction, huge wins, huge losses but in the end all ok
Lets see how it goes if people realize its not a "Support loss spiral" ... FOMO incoming and even more people will come because we are still alive with another bull run .. and this guy will be probably still here and jumping on the train too again ..

MAKE YOUR OWN RESEARCH

EDIT: AND you should be exceptional careful with those "experts" who sound like they 100% know whats going on, like me and this guy... but just one can be right, right ?

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[Kakmakr]

Spoken like a true shill. <Just check his post history, it's about 99% negative about Bitcoin> 

Bitcoin adoption is growing stronger at a steady pace and we are not in a rush to prove you wrong, because history has already proven you wrong, several times before. 

The Lightning Network is growing bigger and Bitcoin ATMs are being distributed at a astonishing rate and SegWit adoption is almost 100% matured now. 

[BitcoinHodler]

Spoken like a true shill. <Just check his post history, it's about 99% negative about Bitcoin> 

Bitcoin adoption is growing stronger at a steady pace and we are not in a rush to prove you wrong, because history has already proven you wrong, several times before. 

The Lightning Network is growing bigger and Bitcoin ATMs are being distributed at a astonishing rate and SegWit adoption is almost 100% matured now. 

he is no longer negative about bitcoin, he is now purely bullshitting about bitcoin
and that surprises me because in this forum it seems like people don't look good at spammers but at the same time people like OP get away with spamming a couple of new topics repeating the same thing every day!!!

[Dreamace7]

Well you have a nice postulation as to what's affecting the price drop of bitcoin but we have had so many already and that's not what is wanted and the moment
In my own opinion there should be more of possible solution suggestions

[keanne_isaac]

I value your personal views but for me current marker condition was the correction effect of bitcoin price last year where we see huge price surge and every one are jumping in the crypto market hoping their money would be double or trippled but that was not been happening comes thing worst price drop significantly and new investors are losing money

[KingScorpio]

i think without attracting new investors bitcoin is doomed due to default passive capital loss, comming from various issues.

1. loss in investor confidence
2. electricity bills of miners.
3. negative trade ins due to unpopularity in usage as payment method.
-> slow
-> ressource costs
-> transaction costs

support loss spiral is not equal to "bear market"

although it doesnt matter what i say, bitcoinfounders will continue to spread the "bear market" myth if they would

100% know that it is not a bearmarket but as i suspect a support loss spiral

[Distinctin]

Spoken like a true shill. <Just check his post history, it's about 99% negative about Bitcoin> 

Bitcoin adoption is growing stronger at a steady pace and we are not in a rush to prove you wrong, because history has already proven you wrong, several times before. 

The Lightning Network is growing bigger and Bitcoin ATMs are being distributed at a astonishing rate and SegWit adoption is almost 100% matured now. 

The development is steady but the price is growing down, last year, price is not really an effect of development but the effect of FOMO.
I believe this year was really a bear market, bitcoin will not die because it has been declared dead many times, yet, it's still making a big come back from time to time, breaking it's ATH.

[btcmaker21]

Well tell us why bitcoin survived 2013 and why its so much different NOW, yea we hit 500-20k instead of 100 to 1100 once, and? longterm upward movement is still clearly there you can fud like this if we fall under 1k again

Bitcoin investors who have been some time around just wait for sign of live ( like breaking some support lines which indicates upward movement ( specially with high swings because of FOMO..), once the train started again they all hop in again.. specially if we have like once doubled and so on and bitcoin reaches the news again for example..)

Bitcoin have those huge swings because people are unsure what will happen but it doesnt matter if -/+ 80% or -/+ 5% like in stocks it just needs to happen or it would be a "superbubble" ( in my opinion )

[AB de Royse777]

Bitcoin price now (December 2018) is: $3,742

Jan 2011: 0.30$
Jan 2012: 4.99$
Jan 2013: 14.00$
Jan 2014: 747.00$
Jan 2015: 317.00$
Jan 2016: 432.00$
Jan 2017: 998.00$
Jan 2018: 14,166$
Jan 2019:

The stat says we are having steady progress.

well first time there was a collapse in price. bitcoins growth story obviously ended. i think this is a support loss spiral,

entire world wants to create money and find idiots doing something for it. not just nakamoto, and these forum members here.

Excuse me, what makes you so sure? Are you the guy from the future LOL. What are you doing in the forum in the first place :-P

[KingScorpio]

Bitcoin price now (December 2018) is: $3,742

Jan 2011: 0.30$
Jan 2012: 4.99$
Jan 2013: 14.00$
Jan 2014: 747.00$
Jan 2015: 317.00$
Jan 2016: 432.00$
Jan 2017: 998.00$
Jan 2018: 14,166$
Jan 2019:

The stat says we are having steady progress.

well first time there was a collapse in price. bitcoins growth story obviously ended. i think this is a support loss spiral,

entire world wants to create money and find idiots doing something for it. not just nakamoto, and these forum members here.

Excuse me, what makes you so sure? Are you the guy from the future LOL. What are you doing in the forum in the first place :-P

jes i am a time traveler from the future bitcoin crashed in 2019 i am just to protect investors here

[KingScorpio]

Well tell us why bitcoin survived 2013 and why its so much different NOW, yea we hit 500-20k instead of 100 to 1100 once, and? longterm upward movement is still clearly there you can fud like this if we fall under 1k again

Bitcoin investors who have been some time around just wait for sign of live ( like breaking some support lines which indicates upward movement ( specially with high swings because of FOMO..), once the train started again they all hop in again.. specially if we have like once doubled and so on and bitcoin reaches the news again for example..)

Bitcoin have those huge swings because people are unsure what will happen but it doesnt matter if -/+ 80% or -/+ 5% like in stocks it just needs to happen or it would be a "superbubble" ( in my opinion )

bitcoin was not in global awareness in 2013, icos were unknown in 2013. there where no useable encription services. like ethereum back then.

it will get even worse once the indexation and market definition issue gets decentralised.

[Xiroartoni]

for all outsiders that enter this,

you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.

the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.

without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"

this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.

but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"

through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.

the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".

from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation

according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral

regards

What have I just read? Where such conclusions? I understand that there are people who manipulate the price of assets, but they are not stupid enough to drive themselves into a corner. I know a lot of people who recently bought bitcoins for the first time. This suggests that the inflow of capital is possible and it will be. The circle of people who know and buy bitcoin is still very small, but it is growing steadily.

[Escf4]

Anything what they call for this falldown of price value of the cryptomarket, does not make sense , whatever names to be called for this falldown season can still be considered ,because every crypto member or investors is entitled to what names or opinion they say as long as it is related to bitcoin and cryptocurrency talks and the forum as it will not hurts other feelings is going to be okey and fine.

[KingScorpio]

for all outsiders that enter this,

you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.

the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.

without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"

this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.

but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"

through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.

the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".

from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation

according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral

regards

What have I just read? Where such conclusions? I understand that there are people who manipulate the price of assets, but they are not stupid enough to drive themselves into a corner. I know a lot of people who recently bought bitcoins for the first time. This suggests that the inflow of capital is possible and it will be. The circle of people who know and buy bitcoin is still very small, but it is growing steadily.

my conclusions are good i am doing them since beginning of 2018 and they where all confirmed by reality.

its you who constantly is spreading trash that isnt going to happen like (bitcoin 1 million usd)

[AB de Royse777]

jes i am a time traveler from the future bitcoin crashed in 2019 i am just to protect investors here

Mighty god!
Do time travelers really exists? I am interested to make a bet. Which day of 2019 you are comfortable? May be it's time for you too change your future LOL

its you who constantly is spreading trash that isnt going to happen like (bitcoin 1 million usd)

It's hard to tell anything.

How about this
In Jan 2011 when bitcoin was $0.30 then if anyone would say bitcoin will hit $20,000 someday then what would you say? trash right? Don't pretend that you know everything.

[Twentyonepaylots]

if all you said is true, then how do you explain the situation in the bitcoin price which rose and fell several times in the past. was it same push by bitcoin creators?

You maybe right of your statement but lets accept the real status that the down turn on the recent activity on the market was due to a lot of issues concerning crypto market.the FUD, Scammers, Hackers, and the never ending issue on Regulation by the financial government agency which until now is not yet resolved. Lets monitor the market for a more favorable crypto market status come 2019.

[nicster551]

for all outsiders that enter this,

you have to understand that the current claim that bitcoin suffers from a "bear market" is absolutely wrong.

the bitcoin founders in their unlimited greed tried to push the price as high as possible, but ultimately wasted, aquired all possible support they were able to obtain.

without potential new kapital to attract they are now in a stuck situation, as they cant attract new capital anymore to push the value of their beloved "bitcoin"

this stagnation combined with the automatic liquidity loss (miner electricity and infrastructure bill) leads to a slow drain out of capital for bitcoin.

but thats not all, they also are trapped in a death spiral, as people that use bitcoin as a currency, will pay it to someone who doesnt share their "investor confidence"

through the existing deathspiral the bitcoin "earners" then sell their bitcoin in the market again which leads to a continueing collapse in value.

the whole story about "bear market" is just wishthinking or worse deliberate satisfaction, or moral stabilisation procedures to keep intact their "community".

from a socioeconomic perspective of bitcoins situation

according to logic, you are never in a bearmarket, but in reality in a support loss spiral

regards

If I see that charts for the whole prices of Bitcoin for where it has been then it is not seem to be in a bear market, but for a  time like this then it is.

[KingScorpio]

if all you said is true, then how do you explain the situation in the bitcoin price which rose and fell several times in the past. was it same push by bitcoin creators?

You maybe right of your statement but lets accept the real status that the down turn on the recent activity on the market was due to a lot of issues concerning crypto market.the FUD, Scammers, Hackers, and the never ending issue on Regulation by the financial government agency which until now is not yet resolved. Lets monitor the market for a more favorable crypto market status come 2019.

i think cryptomarket will resolve itself how power has been always distributed, and thats not through anyfakes.

[clonely]

This bear market analogy is a term taken entirely from stock markets. And it is obvious that it is similar to the bear market even if it is true what you've said.

[KingScorpio]

This bear market analogy is a term taken entirely from stock markets. And it is obvious that it is similar to the bear market even if it is true what you've said.

a stock -> addition into an ongoing standardised market

bitcoin -> "innovation" that tries to establish itself

thats quite though claiming that you insert bitcoin as a foreign body into an organism like the united states.