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December 26, 2018, 05:16:10 PM
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What do you call it when a bunch of companies collude to set prices, fix markets, close off competition, capture regulators, and bribe politicians?

We call it a "cartel," right? Like the oil cartel. You have heard of that term before, "cartel"?

Who here has heard of the term 'banking cartel'? Oh, we don't hear that term.

We don't talk about the banking cartel. We don't talk about the information cartel.

Cartels are the most insidious when we don't talk about them, when they hide in the shadows but in plain view.

The banking system, payments, finance are the biggest cartels in the world.

Nobody calls them a cartel because they're the biggest cartel in the world.

They own all of the media channels, politicians and laws; that makes it easy for them to get away with crimes. In fact, mega-crimes.

Just after the crisis in 2008, instead of some bankers going to jail, they set up an additional layer of crime:

a series of fraudulent foreclosures called robo-signing.

That is how cartels work.

First they capture the market.

Then they capture the regulators (who are always, of course, about "consumer protection").

The regulator is there to protect against "evil things" happening. For example, money laundering.

If you don't have a banking license, no money laundering for you!

But if you do have a banking license... Well, I mean we [must] protect "the system." There will be a fine.

Usually the fine will be less than what you made actually money laundering. You will get away with it, right?

Of course, we don't want to see any financing of terrorists...

except for the ones we do through the State Department, the CIA, or the banks...

-- in which case, those are good people.

We have the regulators and they are captured.




That kind of situation encourages behaviours that are fundamentally parasitic.

When capitalism fails in this particular mode, when you end up with full-blown crony capitalism,

The thieves are in power, literally. That is kleptocracy, when the most parasitic behaviours get rewarded.

When you run a business at that scale, it is not about competing.

It is about finding the biggest pipe, the biggest flow, of money in the economy,

straddling that pipe, sticking a straw in it, and sucking as much of that money out as you can.

You establish yourself as a parasitic leech on a flow of money, which describes the entire banking system.

The idea is, you find a job that requires an intermediary; it requires an intermediary because you made sure to...

buy some lawyers, some Congress people to write a law, to make it require an intermediary (specifically, you).

Then you stick a straw into that flow of money and start extracting rents. It's called rent-seeking behavior.

You take half a percentage point here, half a percentage point there...

We have this wonderful thing called "fractional reserve banking."

If you try to describe it to a five-year-old, they would probably turn around and say, "That sounds like fraud!"

They would be right.

Of course, there is a big difference between fraud and something that is "legal."

It depends on which politicians you buy to make sure it is [considered] legal.

We have these parasitic companies, sitting on top of these flows of money, extracting rent.

They create this rent-seeking behavior. In doing so, they disrupt competition by buying and suing competitors,

or even better making sure that competitors can't keep up with regulation.

[They capture] regulators [to keep] the competition at bay. In doing that, they have built a cartel.

Then they make sure nobody calls it a cartel. Instead, we call it "the shining example of American capitalism."

The end result of this would be appalling in its own self. Obviously, this is not a good model to run an economy.
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December 27, 2018, 12:32:51 PM
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I wouldn't say that bitcoin is the answer,because the banking cartel could easily buy the majority of bitcoins in circulation,you just force the politicians to ban crypto mining and trading worldwide.
OP,just stop with the preaching and focus on how to better understand the blockchain.
This topic belongs to the Economics sub-forum...

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December 27, 2018, 01:49:40 PM
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The answer is not necessarily bitcoin IMO but anarchy, or deviation from the current system that we are using (though we're yet to find or establish a viable one). I don't see how bitcoin tackles this so-called 'banking cartels' head-on, as these guys can just buy all bitcoins they want and end the competition. It can, at first, cause nuisance to the bankers but as time goes by--knowing how much money these people control--they can just get fed up and manipulate the shit out of bitcoin for people to not touch it anymore. Idk, but bitcoin isn't just going to make the cut on ending banks, but it's a good start.

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December 27, 2018, 06:33:47 PM
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The answer is not necessarily bitcoin IMO but anarchy, or deviation from the current system that we are using (though we're yet to find or establish a viable one). I don't see how bitcoin tackles this so-called 'banking cartels' head-on, as these guys can just buy all bitcoins they want and end the competition. It can, at first, cause nuisance to the bankers but as time goes by--knowing how much money these people control--they can just get fed up and manipulate the shit out of bitcoin for people to not touch it anymore. Idk, but bitcoin isn't just going to make the cut on ending banks, but it's a good start.

Anarchy is a scary word to most people. we have been brainwashed to think so?
I think there are better words like  libertarianism, tribe, decentralized etc
 I guess the majority of the world will strongly oppose the term as it is synonymous with chaos and violence. The government could easily use it as an excuse to terrorize us. We probably need the majority of the world on our side.
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December 27, 2018, 06:41:59 PM
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Very useful information for the public to know. I do not know if Bitcoin is te answer but maybe crypto can be the answer if people will understand how it works. For that we need to make easier access for all the world. But when there are parts of the world with no electricity still, this is not easy to do.

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December 27, 2018, 07:48:51 PM
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The answer is not necessarily bitcoin IMO but anarchy, or deviation from the current system that we are using (though we're yet to find or establish a viable one).

Bitcoin is a viable. Not at its current form but if you read the ongoing developments and try to understand what is up ahead, you'll realize that Bitcoin in fact is the number one candidate for the dominant currency for the world.

I don't see how bitcoin tackles this so-called 'banking cartels' head-on, as these guys can just buy all bitcoins they want and end the competition. It can, at first, cause nuisance to the bankers but as time goes by--knowing how much money these people control--they can just get fed up and manipulate the shit out of bitcoin for people to not touch it anymore.

Buying the shit out of Bitcoin will cause its price to soar to unbelievable heights. Everyone would see it coming it will be on the news and if that is censored we have a lot of blogger vloggers anarchist they will report the shit out of the feds and other governments and no one would trade their bitcoin for fiat eventually.



Idk, but bitcoin isn't just going to make the cut on ending banks, but it's a good start.

It is a good start today but eventually it could make banks and most financial institutions obsolete.
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December 27, 2018, 07:51:47 PM
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Anarchy is a scary word to most people. we have been brainwashed to think so?
I think there are better words like  libertarianism, tribe, decentralized etc
 I guess the majority of the world will strongly oppose the term as it is synonymous with chaos and violence. The government could easily use it as an excuse to terrorize us. We probably need the majority of the world on our side.

That's true bro. You are right. Decentralization sounds best imo. Socialist hate the word libertarianism.
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December 27, 2018, 07:54:36 PM
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We have come to conclude that everything is controlled by cartel not knowing that the moment there is a gathering of people trying to control the outcome of a particular situation or probably want to focus on seeing a specific reaction, there is a cartel. Cartel does not necessarily have to be about bad events or taking freedom of people away. For banks, they are simply businessmen trying to protect their pipeline of resources by all means necessary.
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December 27, 2018, 07:56:26 PM
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I don't buy the shit that the government could simply buy all Bitcoins and take it from there. As if nobody would see that happening. People would be wary to sell their Bitcoins and that could pump the price. If they keep printing money they will devalue their own currency. Yes it is a possibility but I don't think they have a good chance of destroying Bitcoin just because they have a lot fiat. Convince me.
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December 27, 2018, 08:00:48 PM
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Cartel does not necessarily have to be about bad events or taking freedom of people away. For banks, they are simply businessmen trying to protect their pipeline of resources by all means necessary.

Well some "means" are just too unjust and inhumane to not be considered "bad events". They find the biggest pipe and flow of money in the economy and what they do is stick a straw to that pipe and suck in as much as they can. That's a parasitism
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December 27, 2018, 08:01:51 PM
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Ab initio, let's put all our cards on the table and be straight with each other; Bitcoin is far from replacing the banking sector and the best is that the cryptocurrency tech will only for the now run side by side with the banking cartel. There's just too much money in the banking industry to be pushed aside over night. with the dip and bearish run of the bitcoin, that's not going to happen any where  soon.

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December 27, 2018, 10:02:21 PM
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Ab initio, let's put all our cards on the table and be straight with each other; Bitcoin is far from replacing the banking sector and the best is that the cryptocurrency tech will only for the now run side by side with the banking cartel. There's just too much money in the banking industry to be pushed aside over night. with the dip and bearish run of the bitcoin, that's not going to happen any where  soon.

That's why the transition should be gradual and that's actually the roadmap. Gradual scalability and optimization of the entire Bitcoin network in a decade or two. For me that is the best outcome. The other extreme end of the spectrum is Hyperbitcoinization which is Bitcoin adoption going too fast bringing the world to chaos.
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