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January 02, 2019, 09:35:44 PM
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A few days ago I received a scary message, my account was banned and I do not know why.

The following account is affected: -Newera-

I have received the following message: Sorry -Newera-, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been a moderator, probably because of spam or plagiarism. You may appeal here, but your chances are not good: banappeals...@theymos.e4ward.com


My further research has shown that this is a Autoban: https://imgur.com/a/fIS8zYk

Unfortunately, I can not understand these two points, I have neither practiced plagiarism nor spread spam. I was even anxious to contain the spam in the Bitcointalk forum. As you can see here an example of my work: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4415262.msg48808220#msg48808220

Because of that, I want to appeal here, because I'm afraid this is a mistake. The account is very important to me and I would be very pleased if I could get this back.

I would be glad about a feedback.
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January 02, 2019, 10:25:29 PM
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The following account is affected: -Newera-
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Unfortunately, I can not understand these two points, I have neither practiced plagiarism nor spread spam.

Copy and pasting

Copy:
With the prediction markets are now on the rise and with its unique use cases and growing community base, this Project will be huge in the next 5 years.
Original:
With the prediction markets are now on the rise and with its unique use cases and growing community base, this Project will be huge in the next 5 years.

Copy:
The distributed ledger technology (DLT) to enable instant transactions is a interesting concept !
The team is really good and project is good too.
I am sure that it is possible to have 100k users in less than 2 years !
Original:
The distributed ledger technology (DLT) to enable instant transactions is a interesting concept !
The team is really good and project is good too.
I am sure that it is possible to have 100k users in less than 2 years !

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January 02, 2019, 10:32:16 PM
Merited by Mr. Big (2), dbshck (1)
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A few days ago I received a scary message, my account was banned and I do not know why.

 I have neither practiced plagiarism nor spread spam.

Hmmm appears you are a liar?

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The following account is affected: -Newera-
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Unfortunately, I can not understand these two points, I have neither practiced plagiarism nor spread spam.

Copy and pasting

Copy:
With the prediction markets are now on the rise and with its unique use cases and growing community base, this Project will be huge in the next 5 years.
Original:
With the prediction markets are now on the rise and with its unique use cases and growing community base, this Project will be huge in the next 5 years.

Copy:
The distributed ledger technology (DLT) to enable instant transactions is a interesting concept !
The team is really good and project is good too.
I am sure that it is possible to have 100k users in less than 2 years !
Original:
The distributed ledger technology (DLT) to enable instant transactions is a interesting concept !
The team is really good and project is good too.
I am sure that it is possible to have 100k users in less than 2 years !

I think we should stop responding in threads like this from here on out. Users know damn well what they did in most cases and will not admit it even when the evidence is posted. Just move on to the next set of excuses is their MO.


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January 02, 2019, 11:08:53 PM
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and will not admit it even when the evidence is posted.
It'll also be fun to see what excuses the OP has in store for us all when he comes back to this thread,probably that we gift him a new year present by unblocking his account,or he should be forgiven,& that his new year resolution is"never to cheat again" Grin
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January 02, 2019, 11:16:14 PM
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I think we should stop responding in threads like this from here on out.
You're right, in most cases they do know exactly what they did and are just lying.  But sometimes mistakes do get made and people are wrongfully banned.  That's not the norm, but it does happen.

This is why I suggested including in the ban PM one example of the plagiarism offense, which would obviate their need to start threads like this and having members dig up an example for them.  That wouldn't stop the pleas-for-mercy threads, but it sure would help reduce ones like OP started here. 

It just wastes people's time having to prove to the plagiarist what they already know to be true, and then after an example is shown, inevitably the next thing they do is try to make excuses or beg for a second chance.  You'll see.  If OP returns to this thread, that's exactly what he's going to do.

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January 02, 2019, 11:37:15 PM
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Game over for this one I guess looks like real copy and paste abuse.

But everyone has right of appeal or to see exactly why they were banned.

The majority of appeals only serve to demonstrate the correct action has taken place.






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January 02, 2019, 11:39:22 PM
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You have copied and pasted on several posts but according to you, you have not did so. Why you are lying? Do you think if you tell a lie then you would be able to unban?
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January 03, 2019, 12:04:25 AM
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I think we should stop responding in threads like this from here on out.

This is why I suggested including in the ban PM one example of the plagiarism offense, which would obviate their need to start threads like this and having members dig up an example for them. 

I think the mods/admins giving a reason/example when they send the ban message would be perfect. When they ban a user aren't they looking at an example of the offense? So, if that's the case, why not send it to the user?

Game over for this one I guess looks like real copy and paste abuse.

But everyone has right of appeal or to see exactly why they were banned.

The majority of appeals only serve to demonstrate the correct action has taken place.







I'm not saying no one has a right to ask for an appeal. I'd just like to see it be done through pm to the admins/staff. 

I do have to say EXCELLENT job to all you guys who find these plagiarized posts.

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January 03, 2019, 12:32:07 AM
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I think we should stop responding in threads like this from here on out.

This is why I suggested including in the ban PM one example of the plagiarism offense, which would obviate their need to start threads like this and having members dig up an example for them. 

I think the mods/admins giving a reason/example when they send the ban message would be perfect. When they ban a user aren't they looking at an example of the offense? So, if that's the case, why not send it to the user?

Game over for this one I guess looks like real copy and paste abuse.

But everyone has right of appeal or to see exactly why they were banned.

The majority of appeals only serve to demonstrate the correct action has taken place.









I'm not saying no one has a right to ask for an appeal. I'd just like to see it be done through pm to the admins/staff. 

I do have to say EXCELLENT job to all you guys who find these plagiarized posts.

public appeal is there for several reasons .. one of which I have already mentioned  but there are several others.




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I think the mods/admins giving a reason/example when they send the ban message would be perfect. When they ban a user aren't they looking at an example of the offense? So, if that's the case, why not send it to the user?

Global mod 'hilarious' answered in the topic "Why we do not give reasons?" that it would be a very time-consuming process for staff.

Ban reasons are given but usually just for a temp ban. There's one button to 'IP and permaban' someone and it's much easier to click that than manually give all these idiots permabans the long way with a customisable reason and when you've got to ban 20 people at once it would become incredibly time consuming and tedious to do so. Theymos should probably change the permaban message to something like You have been permabanned. Some common reasons include spreading malware and plagiarising content, but please see the full rules here (or something like that). That way people can work out what they were banned for. I've also previously requested new buttons for certain bans. For example: So there's one button that when you click it gives a user a seven day ban for unsubstantial posts, and another that permabans them and gives them the reason as copy and pasting and so on. This would be much more efficient for everyone.

I've also requested that users who are permabanned that information is publicly displayed under their username or something, but not sure whether we should include what exactly for in that. It seems like theymos is likely even against showing which users are banned publicly (not sure why, especially when people are reporting dozens of users a day that are already permabanned and it's time-wasting for both users and staff to have to report and handle these).


I think that the moderators could indicate individually the reason of the perma ban for Full Members and above at least.

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January 03, 2019, 09:33:53 PM
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So many accounts have been blocked recently, yet I don't feel like I'm missing out on something.

Bye bye now.

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Game over for this one I guess looks like real copy and paste abuse.

But everyone has right of appeal or to see exactly why they were banned.

The majority of appeals only serve to demonstrate the correct action has taken place.






Should the mode will reconsider it and make some warning like temporary banned? which other users has a chance not to do it again I guess? I hope you wouldn't mind if I ask like this.
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Should the mode will reconsider it and make some warning like temporary banned? which other users has a chance not to do it again I guess? I hope you wouldn't mind if I ask like this.

I haven't seen anyone receiving a second chance after blatant copy and pasting. The only ones I have seen re-instated is where a mistake was made in imposing a ban or they were the initial author of the copied text or they were specifically authorised (i.e. community manager) to replicate the text.

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January 04, 2019, 03:23:04 AM
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I think the mods/admins giving a reason/example when they send the ban message would be perfect. When they ban a user aren't they looking at an example of the offense? So, if that's the case, why not send it to the user?
It will be possible but one of the moderator has said that it will take some time to ban user indicating the reason of the ban. This is why the unofficial list of rules and regulations which is posted in the sticky threads has allowed a user to appeal on meta section. This will give them the chance to identify the reason for the ban as other users were attentive in responding ban appeals in this section.

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January 04, 2019, 05:44:52 AM
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Well, they should consider second chances for those accounts that has been banned and give them some warning I guess they've worked hard for it just to earn merit and in my own opinion, I think it's totally unfair for them. It's totally worst by now because of the merit system and it is not that easy as it was before and you can't even share some information or links easily without any consent/authorized by any community manager.

Do you not feel they have not had ample opportunity to read the Meta section here? There are multiple threads weekly on this very subject. It takes all of 2 seconds for them to click the Meta button and read a few of the thread titles and see what is not acceptable here.

On top of this you say they worked hard to "earn" their merit? If they were being deceitful about their posting habits, do you think that some of them didn't buy their merit?

The merit system makes this forum better honestly. Now users have to put real effort into their thoughts that they post in order to get the merit rewards from other users. Yes, the days of easy money are gone for the bounty hunters who came here to earn a living. We are not against these users at all. If they want to earn some money that's perfectly fine, but do it without posting a load of trash all over the forum. Do it without buying merits, accounts, copying others work, or being dishonest.

Basically its a sink or swim system. You're not gonna hop on here and just magically be a Hero member in the next 1.5 years without putting in the effort. If you do put in the work and rank up honestly as well as earn your merit honestly, you gain a sense of pride on this forum. You might also start gaining some respect from what most of you consider your seniors of the forum.


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January 04, 2019, 10:02:25 AM
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Do you not feel they have not had ample opportunity to read the Meta section here? There are multiple threads weekly on this very subject. It takes all of 2 seconds for them to click the Meta button and read a few of the thread titles and see what is not acceptable here.

Not having read the rules is a very shallow excuse by the way. Plagiarism is frowned upon in every area: school, work etc.
Copying works of others is a universal issue, and it is worse if the motive behind it is for personal gain (financial or acknowledgement)

For clarity a welcome message could be added for new members and this could include the rules and guidelines and a few other vital posts.

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January 08, 2019, 10:01:55 AM
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Well, they should consider second chances for those accounts that has been banned and give them some warning I guess they've worked hard for it just to earn merit and in my own opinion, I think it's totally unfair for them. It's totally worst by now because of the merit system and it is not that easy as it was before and you can't even share some information or links easily without any consent/authorized by any community manager.

Do you not feel they have not had ample opportunity to read the Meta section here? There are multiple threads weekly on this very subject. It takes all of 2 seconds for them to click the Meta button and read a few of the thread titles and see what is not acceptable here.

On top of this you say they worked hard to "earn" their merit? If they were being deceitful about their posting habits, do you think that some of them didn't buy their merit?

The merit system makes this forum better honestly. Now users have to put real effort into their thoughts that they post in order to get the merit rewards from other users. Yes, the days of easy money are gone for the bounty hunters who came here to earn a living. We are not against these users at all. If they want to earn some money that's perfectly fine, but do it without posting a load of trash all over the forum. Do it without buying merits, accounts, copying others work, or being dishonest.

Basically its a sink or swim system. You're not gonna hop on here and just magically be a Hero member in the next 1.5 years without putting in the effort. If you do put in the work and rank up honestly as well as earn your merit honestly, you gain a sense of pride on this forum. You might also start gaining some respect from what most of you consider your seniors of the forum.


I fully agree with your opinion, indeed most of the bounty hunters only want something that is instantaneous, without considering that thinking about the rules, there are so many bounty hunters who do post spam just to reap huge profits for themselves.

Besides, there are also many forum members who just copy and paste content just to expect to get merit, this is really crazy. they want to be respected but not based on the work they make but on the plagiarism of the work of others. and this really needs to be eradicated from this forum so that this forum will develop.

it's actually simple to be a good member and at least support the development of this forum. by obeying the existing rules and not breaking them, we will be safe and not banned.
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January 08, 2019, 10:11:01 AM
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I fully agree with your opinion, indeed most of the bounty hunters only want something that is instantaneous, without considering that thinking about the rules, there are so many bounty hunters who do post spam just to reap huge profits for themselves.
You've got to be joking, posting something like the above when your history on bitcointalk consists of garbage shitposts like these:

yes, hopefully bitcoin will never reach 4000 but it will soon rise to a maximum in November, because we have been in a state that has been too bad as it is today, many have suffered huge losses due to the very market conditions. let us pray together, beautiful things will come soon.
Regardless of the truth, of course, for us actors in the crypto world, we hope that the future of Dary Crypto is good. moreover, many depend on the crypto world for their daily needs or to realize their dreams.
I certainly expect ethereum to recover and return to a very high price. I feel sad if ethereum is very low because if we see the majority of ICOs still use ethereum patform, then ethereum should be priced high and I am sure it will come soon.
I'm also very sad, ethereum the price is now very low. I hope that later ethereum can recover and its position in coinmarketcap will no longer shift, remain under bitcoin, which is number 2, we need more patienly and wait for huge price next moon

....and many, many more.  By the way, where have you been since Oct. 16, 2018, which is when your last post was and why is this your first post in Meta?  Are you fishing for merits by writing things you think merit sources want to hear.

On a related note, can anyone translate this post for me:
Cari akun btt rank legendary
Harga nett 10000000 kalo ada
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4651227.new#new 20 juta khusus hari ini katanya gan

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January 08, 2019, 10:27:12 AM
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On a related note, can anyone translate this post for me:
Cari akun btt rank legendary
Harga nett 10000000 kalo ada
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4651227.new#new 20 juta khusus hari ini katanya gan

Searching account of Legendary rank.

Nett price of 10,000,000 (Indonesian Rupiah) if there's one.

20 million (Rupiah) today's special according to (original poster).

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January 08, 2019, 10:30:53 AM
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It's this part of the post I'm interested in the translation of:


I know this is off-topic, but I'm not going to open a new thread about something that might be nothing.

Edit:  OK, thank you for the translation.  Doesn't look like he was looking to buy or sell an account.

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