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January 15, 2019, 09:53:44 AM
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Then can you say that what you are spreading about Bitcoin, the Core developers, the Lightning Network, and the rest of your twisted arguments is the "truth"? How can you say that? Most of them are wrong.

I respect you, but I don't know what your agenda is.

firstly, when i say something. i don some actual research and look at statistics and find different sources.
secondly you think what i say might be wrong not due to statistics/data. but due to echo chamber rants from a group of people

thirdly i dont hope you just believe me for the sake of believing me, even you know i have annoyed alot of people by asking them to do their own research, that includes you and your buddies.

its been months now. have you learned (without the buddy echo chamber) what:
consensus is. in regards to byzantine generals and why bitcoin/blockchain invention is so revolutionary and LN is devolved tech
LN factories. in regards to the "3rd party" / "middleman" you continue to deny but seem to not want to research/admit

but anyway. main point is do your own research beyond the base stuff first presented to you.. look beyond the base and look at where the source material is and the context

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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January 16, 2019, 05:38:21 AM
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Then can you say that what you are spreading about Bitcoin, the Core developers, the Lightning Network, and the rest of your twisted arguments is the "truth"? How can you say that? Most of them are wrong.

I respect you, but I don't know what your agenda is.

firstly, when i say something. i don some actual research and look at statistics and find different sources.
secondly you think what i say might be wrong not due to statistics/data. but due to echo chamber rants from a group of people


What made you believe that everything you say is "right"? I do not mean to offend you, but many of the things you post are simply wrong.

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thirdly i dont hope you just believe me for the sake of believing me, even you know i have annoyed alot of people by asking them to do their own research, that includes you and your buddies.


My buddies? Are you talking about the people in consensus? Cool

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its been months now. have you learned (without the buddy echo chamber) what:
consensus is. in regards to byzantine generals and why bitcoin/blockchain invention is so revolutionary


Are you referring to our debate about the Core developers? I believe you misapplied the Byzantine Generals Problem in that post.

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and LN is devolved tech


That is your opinion, and therefore could be biased, and wrong.

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LN factories. in regards to the "3rd party" / "middleman" you continue to deny but seem to not want to research/admit


What are you talking about? A "channel factory" is a feature that makes it more convenient to open and close payment channels in Lightning, done off-chain, without broadcasting on the blockchain.

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but anyway. main point is do your own research beyond the base stuff first presented to you.. look beyond the base and look at where the source material is and the context


I look at the data objectively. Do you?


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January 16, 2019, 08:42:46 AM
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Yes, it is strange that Google gives out such incorrect information. It will take some time, and those who don't know the history, generally forget how everything was in fact Sad
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January 16, 2019, 09:06:16 AM
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 #44

Then can you say that what you are spreading about Bitcoin, the Core developers, the Lightning Network, and the rest of your twisted arguments is the "truth"? How can you say that? Most of them are wrong.

I respect you, but I don't know what your agenda is.

firstly, when i say something. i done some actual research and look at statistics and find different sources.
secondly you think what i say might be wrong not due to statistics/data. but due to echo chamber rants from a group of people


What made you believe that everything you say is "right"? I do not mean to offend you, but many of the things you post are simply wrong.
all i say is to do your own research.
also read my footnote.
"Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience"

you sound too much like doomad. which is just empty rebuttals and implying i say things i dont actually say

try doing some independent research, and not think what you have learned from a certain buddy group you repeat stuff from is right.
its very telling your stuck in the repeat what your buddies say boring mythical crap of over promoting something you have yet to research yourself because even after months of giving you hints. stats and data. your rebuttals just become empty "wrong because wrong"
take some time to learn something not involving the certain group. exit your echo chamber of all your buddies thinking they are right because they all kiss each other and agree with each other simply because they only ever see and hear one story

thirdly i dont hope you just believe me for the sake of believing me, even you know i have annoyed alot of people by asking them to do their own research, that includes you and your buddies.


My buddies? Are you talking about the people in consensus? Cool

Quote

its been months now. have you learned (without the buddy echo chamber) what:
consensus is. in regards to byzantine generals and why bitcoin/blockchain invention is so revolutionary


Are you referring to our debate about the Core developers? I believe you misapplied the Byzantine Generals Problem in that post.
you seem to not yet even know the depths of the byzantine generals problem to even know what your referring to. maybe when you learn the real stuff you will understand why blockchains are revolutionary and why everyone is so shocked and astonished at what satoshi solved in 2009. LN does not solve the byzantine generals problem.
there is no blockchain, no community audit. not strict rules that LN NODES have to adhere to strict community protocol.
LN is not revolutionary. its actually a step down from bitcoins/blockchain revolutionary problem solving.


and LN is devolved tech
That is your opinion, and therefore could be biased, and wrong.
do some independant research... for once.
bank accounts are just like LN channels. think about hubs as town/regional banks. think about how the funds flow through banking systems
LN is not the same 24/7 PUSH tx system as blockchains. LN is the 'is the 'bank' open and online to authorise payment.

LN factories. in regards to the "3rd party" / "middleman" you continue to deny but seem to not want to research/admit

What are you talking about? A "channel factory" is a feature that makes it more convenient to open and close payment channels in Lightning, done off-chain, without broadcasting on the blockchain.
blah blah blah you rebutt with the ignore the security concerns. the code issues, the limitations and flaws.. and just reply with promotional script of a over promised network.. as usual but you miss the point.
learn HOW they do it.. learn and research HOW and you will see the 'third party' you love to dismiss the existence of

but anyway. main point is do your own research beyond the base stuff first presented to you.. look beyond the base and look at where the source material is and the context


I look at the data objectively. Do you?

i do. i dont just ask a few friends for a promoted glossy overview of over promises. i actually read the code, documentation. i even get information from the devs themselves.. i doubt you even watched the video of the devs calling out all the flaws even they admit they think cant/wont be fixed
..
now here is a question for you:
are you someone that actually wants to know how things actually work and know both the positives and negatives of something
or
are you someone that just wants to promote positives because your buddies think IF its a success in someway they are gonna get rich from it. thus you think maybe you can get profit following them

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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January 17, 2019, 08:34:09 AM
 #45

Then can you say that what you are spreading about Bitcoin, the Core developers, the Lightning Network, and the rest of your twisted arguments is the "truth"? How can you say that? Most of them are wrong.

I respect you, but I don't know what your agenda is.

firstly, when i say something. i done some actual research and look at statistics and find different sources.
secondly you think what i say might be wrong not due to statistics/data. but due to echo chamber rants from a group of people


What made you believe that everything you say is "right"? I do not mean to offend you, but many of the things you post are simply wrong.
all i say is to do your own research.
also read my footnote.
"Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience"

you sound too much like doomad. which is just empty rebuttals and implying i say things i dont actually say

try doing some independent research, and not think what you have learned from a certain buddy group you repeat stuff from is right.
its very telling your stuck in the repeat what your buddies say boring mythical crap of over promoting something you have yet to research yourself because even after months of giving you hints. stats and data. your rebuttals just become empty "wrong because wrong"
take some time to learn something not involving the certain group. exit your echo chamber of all your buddies thinking they are right because they all kiss each other and agree with each other simply because they only ever see and hear one story


I research the facts, and not make up false interpretations. Plus if someone in the forum tries to debate with you, you suddenly treat them with hostility?

Why? You can't be right all the time.

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thirdly i dont hope you just believe me for the sake of believing me, even you know i have annoyed alot of people by asking them to do their own research, that includes you and your buddies.


My buddies? Are you talking about the people in consensus? Cool

Quote

its been months now. have you learned (without the buddy echo chamber) what:
consensus is. in regards to byzantine generals and why bitcoin/blockchain invention is so revolutionary


Are you referring to our debate about the Core developers? I believe you misapplied the Byzantine Generals Problem in that post.
you seem to not yet even know the depths of the byzantine generals problem to even know what your referring to. maybe when you learn the real stuff you will understand why blockchains are revolutionary and why everyone is so shocked and astonished at what satoshi solved in 2009. LN does not solve the byzantine generals problem.
there is no blockchain, no community audit. not strict rules that LN NODES have to adhere to strict community protocol.
LN is not revolutionary. its actually a step down from bitcoins/blockchain revolutionary problem solving.


and LN is devolved tech
That is your opinion, and therefore could be biased, and wrong.
do some independant research... for once.
bank accounts are just like LN channels. think about hubs as town/regional banks. think about how the funds flow through banking systems
LN is not the same 24/7 PUSH tx system as blockchains. LN is the 'is the 'bank' open and online to authorise payment.

LN factories. in regards to the "3rd party" / "middleman" you continue to deny but seem to not want to research/admit

What are you talking about? A "channel factory" is a feature that makes it more convenient to open and close payment channels in Lightning, done off-chain, without broadcasting on the blockchain.
blah blah blah you rebutt with the ignore the security concerns. the code issues, the limitations and flaws.. and just reply with promotional script of a over promised network.. as usual but you miss the point.
learn HOW they do it.. learn and research HOW and you will see the 'third party' you love to dismiss the existence of

but anyway. main point is do your own research beyond the base stuff first presented to you.. look beyond the base and look at where the source material is and the context


I look at the data objectively. Do you?

i do. i dont just ask a few friends for a promoted glossy overview of over promises. i actually read the code, documentation. i even get information from the devs themselves.. i doubt you even watched the video of the devs calling out all the flaws even they admit they think cant/wont be fixed
..
now here is a question for you:
are you someone that actually wants to know how things actually work and know both the positives and negatives of something
or
are you someone that just wants to promote positives because your buddies think IF its a success in someway they are gonna get rich from it. thus you think maybe you can get profit following them


I never "blindly promoted" Lightning in the forum, but I never posted "disfigured facts" on how it functions either.

Or maybe you didn't understand how it works, go do your research again.

On this topic, should be be concerned on the people who edits and maintains the "Bitcoin Core developers" page in Wikipedia?


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January 17, 2019, 11:06:28 AM
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It seems Google knows more than traders....  Grin

It's funny to see that. I hope no one believes in it, and always checks the information for truth.
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January 18, 2019, 05:54:52 AM
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I never "blindly promoted" Lightning in the forum, but I never posted "disfigured facts" on how it functions either.

Or maybe you didn't understand how it works, go do your research again.

On this topic, should be be concerned on the people who edits and maintains the "Bitcoin Core developers" page in Wikipedia?

its about the core developers.
and when you and your buddies poke the bear and all you get to say is "wrong because wrong" shows you need to do more research

oh and when i simplify it down to ELI-5 is not "disfigured facts" its called simplify things into non jargon, non bs
take jargon like "inflight upgrades" which mean upgrades without needing consensus. in reality thats a backdoor
take jargon like "wallet" which mean stores funds. but in reality a wallet.dat is a keyring analogy

what i find funny is how you and your buddies say the same stuff like a scripted echo chamber, but then all get upset when i say you need to research. so why do you and your buddies get upset whn being told to do some research

have you learned about multisig/factories/routers to denounce your own 'no third party' bs

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Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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January 18, 2019, 06:24:33 AM
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I never "blindly promoted" Lightning in the forum, but I never posted "disfigured facts" on how it functions either.

Or maybe you didn't understand how it works, go do your research again.

On this topic, should be be concerned on the people who edits and maintains the "Bitcoin Core developers" page in Wikipedia?

its about the core developers.
and when you and your buddies poke the bear and all you get to say is "wrong because wrong" shows you need to do more research

oh and when i simplify it down to ELI-5 is not "disfigured facts" its called simplify things into non jargon, non bs
take jargon like "inflight upgrades" which mean upgrades without needing consensus. in reality thats a backdoor
take jargon like "wallet" which mean stores funds. but in reality a wallet.dat is a keyring analogy

what i find funny is how you and your buddies say the same stuff like a scripted echo chamber, but then all get upset when i say you need to research. so why do you and your buddies get upset whn being told to do some research


Like simplifying the term "Lightning channels" to "promisory transaction mediums"? Cool

All transactions made in Lightning are in Bitcoins, there are no "promises to pay". There are no people owing other people some Bitcoins. The coins sent to them are real Bitcoins that can be broadcasted on-chain in whatever occasion they want.


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January 18, 2019, 08:49:37 AM
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Who are these guys at all? The first time I hear about them...
I wouldn't be surprised if after some time the first name disappears from this list. Is it just a mistake or deliberate misinformation? I don't think that at the level of Google they make such mistakes. There is something to think about....  Huh
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June 07, 2019, 11:27:06 AM
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Can anyone try and search "Bitcoin Core developers" again? The "according to Wikipedia" misinformation with the images of not Bitcoin developers is gone for me, and the Wikipedia page was also edited. Less politics, more facts.

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