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[pooler]

I've been tuning my L3's recently and I have a few questions I was hoping someone could clear up?

I will only try to answer those questions I'm relatively confident I can answer, as I don't have much hands-on experience with Antminers.

1) Are HW errors, rejected/stale shares, etc factored into the reported average hashrate on the miner's status page? In other words, if I have my miner clocked really fast but it's getting way to many HW errors, will it still report a really high hash rate or will it display an "effective" hash rate that is basically all the work done per unit time excluding HW errors?

I believe that HW errors and rejected shares are not factored into the hash rate reported by the miner. So if for example you have a lot of HW errors, the hash rate estimated by the pool will be much lower than the raw one reported by the miner.

4) What is the meaning of the Local Work, Utility, and WU fields?

Utility is shares submitted (either accepted or rejected, I believe) per minute. WU or Work Utility is the same thing but counting each share by its difficulty.

5) I always assumed the "best share" field is showing what the maximum network difficulty the best share/hash computed by the miner could have been if the miner were to have found a block. In other words, if the best share field read "500,000" then that would be like saying "If the network difficulty were 500,000, the best hash found would have satisfied the requirements to solve/create a new block". But I frequently see the best share field displaying a number substantially greater than actual global network difficulty. Is this because I misunderstand what that field means?

I think you essentially get it. I suspect the problem here is that this "best share" field is expressed as a share difficulty rather than a network difficulty. Due to historical reasons, in the case of coins using the scrypt algorithm, while network difficulty is expressed in the same way as Bitcoin's, share difficulty is expressed on a different scale. For instance, network difficulty 1 corresponds to a share difficulty of about 2¹⁶.

[JayDDee]

I've been tuning my L3's recently and I have a few questions I was hoping someone could clear up?

I will only try to answer those questions I'm relatively confident I can answer, as I don't have much hands-on experience with Antminers.

1) Are HW errors, rejected/stale shares, etc factored into the reported average hashrate on the miner's status page? In other words, if I have my miner clocked really fast but it's getting way to many HW errors, will it still report a really high hash rate or will it display an "effective" hash rate that is basically all the work done per unit time excluding HW errors?

I believe that HW errors and rejected shares are not factored into the hash rate reported by the miner. So if for example you have a lot of HW errors, the hash rate estimated by the pool will be much lower than the raw one reported by the miner.

5) I always assumed the "best share" field is showing what the maximum network difficulty the best share/hash computed by the miner could have been if the miner were to have found a block. In other words, if the best share field read "500,000" then that would be like saying "If the network difficulty were 500,000, the best hash found would have satisfied the requirements to solve/create a new block". But I frequently see the best share field displaying a number substantially greater than actual global network difficulty. Is this because I misunderstand what that field means?

I think you essentially get it. I suspect the problem here is that this "best share" field is expressed as a share difficulty rather than a network difficulty. Due to historical reasons, in the case of coins using the scrypt algorithm, while network difficulty is expressed in the same way as Bitcoin's, share difficulty is expressed on a different scale. For instance, network difficulty 1 corresponds to a share difficulty of about 2¹⁶.

I also am not familiar with Antminer.

1. Typically miners count the number of nonces hashed, whether submitted or not, which would also include HW errors. I would assume the same unless there is
some indication HW errors are specifically excluded.

5. I assume the same. But I don't see a problem. It's likely you did solve a block but you weren't solo minning so it only counted as another share. Behind the scenes
the block would be created and the accumulated shares distributed to the miners. Best share doesn't really mean anything for pool mining, every share has the same value
based on stratum diff. The different diff factor for scrypt algo should not affect the share diff, it's only used to calculate the target hash associated with the stratum diff.

Additional comment:

Using HW errors as a tuning metric can be misleading. HW Errors are only discovered when testing hash before submitting a share, 99.999999...% of the hashes are discarded before testing.
Some of those discards may have been valid shares corrupted by HW errors which would be silent errors going undetected and unreported.

[itech]

I've been tuning my L3's recently and I have a few questions I was hoping someone could clear up?

1) Are HW errors, rejected/stale shares, etc factored into the reported average hashrate on the miner's status page? In other words, if I have my miner clocked really fast but it's getting way to many HW errors, will it still report a really high hash rate or will it display an "effective" hash rate that is basically all the work done per unit time excluding HW errors?

hi archoftime, @pooler and others, to correct clocking an L3 or others be sure your firmware is able to setup Frequency AND Voltage on your own, oem firmwares allow often only a frequenzy change. for a good clocking u need both!

Defaults are 384 on Frequency and 13 on Voltage (Blissz Firmware recommended)

Start with setting up your frequency to a higher anmount, i prefere the frequency 425M(HZ) and voltage on default 13.
that boosts 80-120MH/s by rising up 200watt more. Never set frequency's above 444M without additional FAN's or immersion cooling!

Choose a anmount of FREQUENCY and set it up by the default voltage (13).
Let the miner run 11 to 66 minutes and check back the number of HW's. If hw is uprising,
lower the frequency until hw is nearly on the anmount of a normal clocked L3!
If u reach an good Frequency without many HW's, u can start with lowering the Voltage step by step,
after every step let the miner run again for minimum 11 - 66 minutes and check back the anmount of HW's occuring!
A good point to see if good or not is the NONCE#, it should be under the value of 0.0040%,
this results in 0,000000% on DiffR# wich should never exceed the value 0.00027%!

Keep in mind that a uprising anmount of HW's directly affect the nonce#, which directly affects the DiffR# and this result in way more rejected,stale and very stale shares!

WICH FINALY RESULTS IN A FALSE HASHRATE (LOWER AS THE FIRMWARE INTERFACE SHOWN ON MINING POOL) BECAUSE MINING POOL's ARE MESSURING THE HASHRATE ONLY IN FORM OF SUBMITTED VALID SHARES,REJECTED SHARES,STALE SHARES AND VERY STALE SHARES!!!!!!!



But keep attention script algorythm miners, dont like UNDERVOLTING!

There is a risk of losing some Chainboards because of damage, they will never come up again some times after lowering the voltage and get compromissed!

Every time you step up next phase of overclocking let run the miner 11 - 66 minutes and check back HW#s anmount and compare the Hashrate MH/s with the hashrate suggested on your mining pool website. because overclocking (special overclocking on frequencys more then 425 and/or undervolting voltage sometimes result in a way lower hashrate then you see in the firmware! in this case everytime the mining pool shown Hashrate is probably the right one! keep an eye open for that otherwise u may waste a lott of energy and get not rewarded for it.



thats for your 1). #



U can change hashboards out of L3's until u reach a good configuration with less HW,rejected,stale and very stale shares! i got one L3 on that i change the boards many times and finaly found a hashboard configuration wich result in 0HW, 0,0000% nonce# and 0,000000% DiffR# and runs stable at 425 on voltage 13 (default) with minimum 580MH/s for more then 24 hours!


Never set a value higher then 13 on Voltage! U should only do this for damaged boards wich comes up no more after undervolting or overclocking and only for a few seconds then reset it to lowest value on voltage again for a few seconds then reset it to 13 on Voltage, after this "ramp on" process sometimes the boards come up again, if dont come up again then this board needs a repair service!

Remember that miners with a large anmount of HWs,that they are uprising the Hw anmount again after 20 - 24 hours more and more!
With other words, if u have miners with NONCE# more then 0,0040% special with anmount starting on 0,0100% or more,
for more than 66 minutes reboot your miner. Reboot it at a minimum apointment of 24 hours!
Miners like my one L3 without any HW#s nonce or diffr,
 dont need to reboot after 24 hours. Only reboot such good miners only if HW,nonce or diffr are uprising! because of your block finding chance.

 


have fun!


SCREENSHOT SHOWS ONE L3 Build of MINE WITH 0 HW, 0 Nonce, 0 DiffR on freq. 425 volt 13 hashrate 580 MH/s on litecoinpool.org (555MH/s in firmware interface) THIS ONE HOLD THE VALUE 0 STABLE FOR MORE THAN 24 hours!


https://ibb.co/27g1VCx6


someone should tell me hows the correct code to submit screenshots here with preview etc


UPDATE: meanwhile this L3 run's nearly 48 hours with 0 HW's wich directly result in 0,0000% NONCE# & 0,00000%DiffR# still 100% stable at 580 MH/s.


https://i.ibb.co/bRMSGJN8/Screenshot-2025-01-30-121345.png

[Architect_of_Time]

Has anybody ever purchased a miner directly from bitmain? I noticed that they (as well as most/all other miner vendors/resellers) all seem to only accept payment in crypto or in one case a wire transfer. How can I be sure that they actually send me the hardware after I pay? And what about issues with import complications?

[PhaseIV]

Has anybody ever purchased a miner directly from bitmain? I noticed that they (as well as most/all other miner vendors/resellers) all seem to only accept payment in crypto or in one case a wire transfer. How can I be sure that they actually send me the hardware after I pay? And what about issues with import complications?

Bitmain has the largest market share so yes you're going to receive your miner. I've ordered with them before. They will charge a premium on whatever miner you want to buy and charge the full import cost. You're better off going with a third party re-seller since they're more likely to give you a better price.

All vendors accept crypto because it's the easiest to use for large purchases, less friction as opposed to banks, less oversight, quicker, simpler purchases for everyone involved.

[tswift]

MyLitecoinPool app no longer exists in the Apple app store after updating to iOS 26. Will this be resolved?

[pooler]

MyLitecoinPool app no longer exists in the Apple app store after updating to iOS 26. Will this be resolved?

All apps using the pool's API are written and maintained by third-party developers, not by the pool. To get an answer, you will have to get in touch with the developer of your app.

[Mark1128]

Hi,

I am new to merged mining and buying a few Bitmain L7 miners. I have a few questions:
1. In addition to LTC and DOGE, will I get BELLS, LKY, PEP, JKC and DINGO as mining rewards? If so, what is the easiest way to set up the addresses to receive all these different coins?
2. If I would just want to receive LTC and DOGE, would giving up other coins increase my rewards in LTC and DOGE?

Would appreciate any help. Thx!

[pooler]

Hi,

I am new to merged mining and buying a few Bitmain L7 miners. I have a few questions:
1. In addition to LTC and DOGE, will I get BELLS, LKY, PEP, JKC and DINGO as mining rewards? If so, what is the easiest way to set up the addresses to receive all these different coins?
2. If I would just want to receive LTC and DOGE, would giving up other coins increase my rewards in LTC and DOGE?

Would appreciate any help. Thx!

Miners only receive LTC and DOGE, but more than they would without the additional merged chains. This post from a while ago answers your questions more in detail:
https://www.litecoinpool.org/news?id=93

[Mark1128]

Hi,

I am new to merged mining and buying a few Bitmain L7 miners. I have a few questions:
1. In addition to LTC and DOGE, will I get BELLS, LKY, PEP, JKC and DINGO as mining rewards? If so, what is the easiest way to set up the addresses to receive all these different coins?
2. If I would just want to receive LTC and DOGE, would giving up other coins increase my rewards in LTC and DOGE?

Would appreciate any help. Thx!

Miners only receive LTC and DOGE, but more than they would without the additional merged chains. This post from a while ago answers your questions more in detail:
https://www.litecoinpool.org/news?id=93

Thx a lot!

Hi, May I ask a follow-up question as I could not find it in the news or FAQ. What is the formula of how other merged mined coins (BELLS, LKY etc) contribute to the increase in PPS ratio? Thx!

[pooler]

Hi,

I am new to merged mining and buying a few Bitmain L7 miners. I have a few questions:
1. In addition to LTC and DOGE, will I get BELLS, LKY, PEP, JKC and DINGO as mining rewards? If so, what is the easiest way to set up the addresses to receive all these different coins?
2. If I would just want to receive LTC and DOGE, would giving up other coins increase my rewards in LTC and DOGE?

Would appreciate any help. Thx!

Miners only receive LTC and DOGE, but more than they would without the additional merged chains. This post from a while ago answers your questions more in detail:
https://www.litecoinpool.org/news?id=93

Thx a lot!

Hi, May I ask a follow-up question as I could not find it in the news or FAQ. What is the formula of how other merged mined coins (BELLS, LKY etc) contribute to the increase in PPS ratio? Thx!

Generally speaking, the PPS ratio is not set using a fixed formula; the pool periodically sets the ratio based on a number of factors, of which of course current profitability is the main one, but for instance during times of high volatility we have to employ heuristics to come to a fair number. For the last few months, the relative profitability of merge-mined coins other than DOGE has been consistently very low (less than 1%), so the PPS ratio has not moved from 98%.

[Mark1128]

Hi,

Is PPS fee the same for every user irrespective of the hashpower he contributes?
Thx!

[pooler]

Is PPS fee the same for every user irrespective of the hashpower he contributes?

Yes, the PPS fee rate and PPS ratio are the same for all users.

[GhostRider25]

Hello everyone, not new to this, registered here probably 10 years ago but e mail long gone so can't recover anyways.
just today got a volcminer the 2.2 gh one.
is there a different firmware one can get some where for it or something that a better interface than it's factory web interface,  kind of leaves a bit to be desired.  like vnish or something for doge/ltc?

thankyou
Aaron

[GhostRider25]

bump...

is there any software / upgrades for these miners or not yet?

thank you
Aaron

[MaouKami]

Hi,

I have a old account, i just tried to login with my saved details it failed, when i tried to recover it failed telling me to contact so it looks like this is the only way ?
the account name is MaouKami.

Hope you can help me.

[GhostRider25]

@MaouKami good luck with that, don't seem to be too much watching of this thread.

if you look on the website there is a contact button on the bottom lower right hand side.
or better yet e mail their support at  support@litecoinpool.org
they seem to answer those very fast and you might get much better service.

to save time id send your name, e mail, maybe old acct name and other info you may remember that could possibly help them find it...
if not,... it's easy to open a new one.

good luck

Aaron

[pooler]

I have a old account, i just tried to login with my saved details it failed, when i tried to recover it failed telling me to contact so it looks like this is the only way ?
the account name is MaouKami.

For account-specific queries you should always get in touch with support over email (the address is at the end of the Help page on the website). To protect users' security and privacy, this forum should only be used for public discussion.

That said, if your account was inactive for over a year, it has probably been deleted from the system, as per the Terms of Service.