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January 09, 2019, 08:40:47 PM
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Try to search here idk what is the command for windows
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You probably can use their copy on website 🏕️

I'll play around with it. Even if exclude him successfully not sure what's gonna happen if he changes his name again. Hopefully it's based on user ID somehow.

You can just copy/paste his whole name, and it is stored as a user ID.

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January 09, 2019, 08:43:18 PM
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Theymos quit being a coward,

You reinstated Lauda ,and you remain silent.

Man up and admit she does unspeakable deeds for you.


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Wow, you are really lame Theymos,
it must be because you know you have no defense and your actions reinstating Laudanum ( Wink) a reprehensible act.
If you are looking for quiet solace her future actions will not bring it.

I was Red Tagged because Lauda Blows Theymos to get back on DT
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That would make the rest of my trust ratings questionable.
It would certainly not, no.

Of course it would!

If all it takes for a scammer to get away with scamming is to tag me back and then negotiate mutual removal, no one will trust my ratings anymore.

If Anduck is willing to remove his rating if I remove mine, what does that say about his rating?

I've now removed my negative ratings to you. I'll briefly explain why.

First of all, I am all for burying the hatchet.
Secondly, some events in the Internet where no monetary or other kind of real damage was done, do not really give a complete image of person's trustworthiness.
Given that Vod has worked in various ways to improve the forum, and based on other peoples (positive) views about him, I think that my rating was not anymore reasonable as it now also carries DT weight.

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January 09, 2019, 08:50:23 PM
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Just 4 days ago, I was actually surprised how many people had included me:

I'm now including you as well, so I'm guessing you're only a couple of inclusions away from DT1.

Which raises a question - is there a way to see one's eligibility? Like how many 10-merit users are including the user? The current trust hierarchy can only show who's included by people in my list but not the other way round. I know this can be extracted from data dumps but that's convoluted. Having visibility of it might help detect abuse before it happens.
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 #85

Theymos quit being a coward,

You reinstated Lauda,and you remain silent.

Man up and admit she does unspeakable deeds for you.

Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

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January 09, 2019, 08:52:28 PM
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Theymos quit being a coward,

You reinstated Lauda ,and you remain silent.

Man up and admit she does unspeakable deeds for you.


 Cool

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Wow, you are really lame Theymos,
it must be because you know you have no defense and your actions reinstating Laudanum ( Wink) a reprehensible act.
If you are looking for quiet solace her future actions will not bring it.

you do realise that you deserve to be tagged for being so fucking annoying right.

please let the adults discuss the changes - then in time you might get a response, keep on like this and you are going to get nothing!

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January 09, 2019, 08:54:53 PM
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Theymos quit being a coward,

You reinstated Lauda,and you remain silent.

Man up and admit she does unspeakable deeds for you.

Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

Well at least you admit Lauda Sucked your Dick to get back on DT.

 Cheesy Cheesy

Notice she has no intention of burying any hatchet except in other's heads.
So the DT bullshit will continue as long as she is around.

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January 09, 2019, 08:55:02 PM
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Which raises a question - is there a way to see one's eligibility? Like how many 10-merit users are including the user? The current trust hierarchy can only show who's included by people in my list but not the other way round. I know this can be extracted from data dumps but that's convoluted. Having visibility of it might help detect abuse before it happens.
I don't think so. Someone could make a parser that updates this in real time. Maybe Vod could add it to BPIP (e.g. a page called "DT1 elligibility").

Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.
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January 09, 2019, 08:56:26 PM
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Try to search here idk what is the command for windows
https://emojipedia.org/camping/

You probably can use their copy on website 🏕️

I'll play around with it. Even if exclude him successfully not sure what's gonna happen if he changes his name again. Hopefully it's based on user ID somehow.

You can just copy/paste his whole name, and it is stored as a user ID.

Actually, users keep both usernames it might be helpful to know...

It's essentially just a link that gets created. Blazed, vod and anduck can still be contacted via pm by using their old usernames.
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January 09, 2019, 08:56:41 PM
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you do realise that you deserve to be tagged for being so fucking annoying right.

please let the adults discuss the changes - then in time you might get a response, keep on like this and you are going to get nothing!

What I did child was provoke a response, from those trying to cover up the facts.

When you can grow a beard , then talk to me. (In another 5 years)


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January 09, 2019, 08:57:20 PM
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Just 4 days ago, I was actually surprised how many people had included me:
I'm now including you as well, so I'm guessing you're only a couple of inclusions away from DT1.
Thanks Cheesy I still need to increase my own trust list though.

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Which raises a question - is there a way to see one's eligibility? Like how many 10-merit users are including the user? The current trust hierarchy can only show who's included by people in my list but not the other way round. I know this can be extracted from data dumps but that's convoluted. Having visibility of it might help detect abuse before it happens.
There's this:
https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz is updated weekly; you could monitor that.
I may make a rankup list someday, if DdmrDdrm doesn't beat me to it.
I'm also a bit worried how easy it's going to be for a bunch of Newbies to get on DT1 by abusing just 1 Legendary with 200 sMerit. Of course exclusions will fix that again quickly, but not before creating some drama.

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January 09, 2019, 08:57:32 PM
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Which raises a question - is there a way to see one's eligibility? Like how many 10-merit users are including the user? The current trust hierarchy can only show who's included by people in my list but not the other way round. I know this can be extracted from data dumps but that's convoluted. Having visibility of it might help detect abuse before it happens.
I don't think so. Someone could make a parser that updates this in real time. Maybe Vod could add it to BPIP (e.g. a page called "DT1 elligibility").

Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.
So much win; you deserve a smile from me.




That is not all he got from you Laudanum.

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FYI:


Implied threats are not funny.

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January 09, 2019, 08:59:06 PM
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I just deleted my all trust list personalizations and going to start again.
Why, I'm not sure, but my brain just melted a bit and I want to think about it.
In view of the small number of members who actually set their own list, then I guess the vast majority will be seeing red and green trust by default left by these DT1 and DT2 members

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Is that right?


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January 09, 2019, 09:00:40 PM
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You however being a child rapist is not funny!

Your history is known.


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Let the cowards pile on the red trust , only showing their cowardice.
1 or 1 million makes no difference.

achow101 , you always were a dumb anal dwelling censorship butt monkey.

Tman is a mere dumb ass kissing child.

@Theymos, see how your rank of pussies attack merely when someone won't cower to their will.

Making your DT as useless as your pretense of moral character.

Lauda's Mouth is nothing more than Theymos cock holster.


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January 09, 2019, 09:01:17 PM
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if you remove the tag now "only after his tag started to show on your profile" then indeed it will be questionable, you tagged him for "scamming" based on your feedback, so it's either you falsely accused him , or if your accusation was right then it's wrong to remove it now just for the purpose of "cleaning" your trust.

I am not against "settlements" , everyone who tagged someone should allow some flexibility, specially for the "unclear" cases like the own bidding situation you tagged Anduck for, but this has to apply for everyone not just new DT members with new power !

it's surprising that  some people are now asking you to remove the tag, but never did before "Anduck" became a DT member, so you are right when you tag a non-DT member but not so right when you tag a DT member?

I am afraid this new update will fail big time as some DT members will be afraid to tag other DT members or "potentially" coming DT members just to save themselves from being removed from DT.

this is not related to you "Vod" and "Anduck" it just a general assumption of a potential shitty scenario where some DT members might look the other way only to stay on DT.


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January 09, 2019, 09:03:49 PM
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cryptohunter is back with -ve trust. Does that mean we will be subjected to another set of insults, threats, and lies? Armageddon? Roll Eyes

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Now this is a good news. Hope this change will lead to better ecosystem in the forum and hope  this will push more people to use custom lists too.
Happy to see Krogo on the DT1, congrats man.

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Just 4 days ago, I was actually surprised how many people had included me:
I'm now including you as well

And I will too. If my understanding is right, although I'm not trusted by anyone, simply by virtue of having earned enough merits, my inclusion will count? I always just used Default Trust because I like to see things the same way the majority of users did, but I'll be playing around with a custom trust list over the next few days.


I've now removed my negative ratings to you.

Thank you for taking the first step here. As I said before, although we obviously disagreed about the conduct of that auction, I don't think it should have permanently marked your account given your otherwise extensive positive trading history. More cooperation and less conflict amongst senior members, who should all be on the same team (protecting the forum from scammers), can only be a good thing.


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January 09, 2019, 09:08:41 PM
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it's surprising that  some people are now asking you to remove the tag, but never did before "Anduck" became a DT member, so you are right when you tag a non-DT member but not so right when you tag a DT member?

I am afraid this new update will fail big time as some DT members will be afraid to tag other DT members or "potentially" coming DT members just to save themselves from being removed from DT.

this is not related to you "Vod" and "Anduck" it just a general assumption of a potential shitty scenario where some DT members might look the other way only to stay on DT.


As far as I know the DT1 list also may get refreshed every month so if some of the DT member is abusing the trust system can be excluded by the others.

Hoping that no misuse of DT power will happen anymore.

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