DefaultTrust changes

[S_Therapist]

If he add more then 10 person then admin/sript will choose the candidate randomly. Seems theymos had edited OP with new updates.

It's not random, imo. If it was random, theymos would not say "whom your vote will be most useful."

Each user's number of "votes" in the last two criteria will be limited to floor(earned_merit / (10 or 250, depending on the criteria)). If you trust more people than your limit, then you will vote for the people to whom your vote will be the most useful, more-or-less.

I think it will be choosen by either the members trust score or whom most of the people have included.
For example, if someone has 20 earned merits and includes 3 member in trust list, system will check among those 3 member who has been included by most others person. Assume, I have 20 earned merit and included A, B, C in my trust list. Anyone from this 3 will be excluded by-
Assume-
A- trusted by 20 members
B- trusted by 11 members
C- trusted by 15 members.
Then my vote will go for A and C, B will be excluded.
Is that correct, can someone confirm?

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[Andrey123]

Guys what do I do with the Trust?
I tried to find the truth in the topic, but it is not interesting to anyone ...
Lauda and Tman simply added bad confidence to me, and I think they agreed ... so that there is no one to influence them (
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096004.new#new

[theymos]

I have 214 earned merits. Let's assume I have included 30 persons in my trust list. How will system choose my vote, I mean by which criteria, since I have capability of voting for 21 member. How someone from my 30 members will be excluded/included?

Right now only 1 person in your trust list is eligible at that point in the DT1 generation process (namely Coolcryptovator), so it doesn't matter. In the vast majority of cases, it's like this, where there is no contention at all. If there is contention, then the system tries to distribute the votes such that the greatest number of people would be included in DT1 at the end. If there's still contention (or if my algorithm behaves sub-optimally), then it's chosen randomly among the remaining options. But this is a bit rare: if DT1 was constructed now, no randomness would be involved, since all contention would be resolvable without it.

I think it will be choosen by either the members trust score or whom most of the people have included.
For example, if someone has 20 earned merits and includes 3 member in trust list, system will check among those 3 member who has been included by most others person. Assume, I have 20 earned merit and included A, B, C in my trust list. Anyone from this 3 will be excluded by-
Assume-
A- trusted by 20 members
B- trusted by 11 members
C- trusted by 15 members.
Then my vote will go for A and C, B will be excluded.
Is that correct, can someone confirm?

In that case your vote doesn't matter, since they're all above 10. If it was instead:

A- trusted by 20
B- trusted by 9
C- trusted by 9

Then your votes would go to B and C, since that would result in the greatest number of people in DT1.

[theymos]

Here's how the voting would work if it were performed right now. The first one comes after all of the other criteria, and is then fed into the second.

Code:

yxt via:
    phantastisch
    twbt
    Dunkelheit667
    lassdas
    Chefin
    qwk
    fronti
    o_solo_miner
    meph
    SebastianJu
xtraelv via:
    DdmrDdmr
    taikuri13
    iasenko
    marlboroza
    ICOEthics
    1miau
    Lafu
    qwk
    tmfp
    cryptodevil
Jet Cash via:
    joniboini
    The Pharmacist
    Vod
    iasenko
    TMAN
    mdayonliner
    bL4nkcode
    NeuroticFish
    CryptopreneurBrainboss
    vizique
tmfp via:
    suchmoon
    ibminer
    marlboroza
    DarkStar_
    ICOEthics
    Coolcryptovator
    cryptodevil
    bL4nkcode
    owlcatz
    IconFirm
Halab via:
    theymos
    kenzawak
    JohnUser
    TomCrypto
    F2b
    Saint-loup
    asche
    Lafu
    Foxpup
    yogg
EcuaMobi via:
    suchmoon
    d5000
    DarkStar_
    Quickseller
    sandy-is-fine
    minifrij
    MadZ
    tmfp
    owlcatz
    KWH
ezeminer via:
    minerjones
    TMAN
    BitcoinPenny
    anonymousminer
    2stout
    hedgy73
    dazedfool
    BG4
    greenplastic
    TookDk
Welsh via:
    DdmrDdmr
    Jet Cash
    Alex_Sr
    DooMAD
    iasenko
    Coolcryptovator
    Lafu
    mdayonliner
    CryptopreneurBrainboss
    rockmoney
TookDk via:
    philipma1957
    OgNasty
    minerjones
    qwk
    Lesbian Cow
    BitcoinPenny
    ezeminer
    hephaist0s
    hedgy73
    Anduck
Coolcryptovator via:
    Theb
    coinlocket$
    lovesmayfamilis
    ICOEthics
    Lafu
    qwk
    SFR10
    bones261
    S_Therapist
    tmfp
asche via:
    mole0815
    TomCrypto
    JohnUser
    cestmoi
    DarkStar_
    Saint-loup
    Tramirostronix
    Lafu
    1miau
    qwk
cryptodevil via:
    LoyceV
    suchmoon
    xtraelv
    dooglus
    DarkStar_
    marlboroza
    Coolcryptovator
    willi9974
    bones261
    tmfp
mprep via:
    LoyceV
    Welsh
    OgNasty
    hilariousandco
    Lafu
    eddie13
    qwk
    sapta
    mdayonliner
    cabalism13
yogg via:
    TomCrypto
    krogothmanhattan
    Saint-loup
    minerjones
    TMAN
    asche
    Coolcryptovator
    Kryptowerk
    anonymousminer
    Xprim777
vizique via:
    batesresearch
    TMAN
    Mitchell
    Lesbian Cow
    yogg
    BitcoinPenny
    anonymousminer
    Ticked
    BitcoinNewsMagazine
    owlcatz
zazarb via:
    krishnapramod
    Quickseller
    yahoo62278
    Timelord2067
    Naster
    Fakhoury
    mdayonliner
    BitcoinPenny
    paramind22
    exstasie
Lafu via:
    mole0815
    Vod
    xtraelv
    VonSpass
    aundroid
    iasenko
    Buchi-88
    asche
    Coolcryptovator
    1miau
ICOEthics via:
    mole0815
    kenzawak
    coinlocket$
    xtraelv
    lovesmayfamilis
    F2b
    DarkStar_
    marlboroza
    Coolcryptovator
    nutildah
JohnUser via:
    Becassine
    Aerys2
    Saint-loup
    Shitcointalk
    cestmoi
    F2b
    Tramirostronix
    DarkStar_
    Lauda
    asche
SebastianJu via:
    phantastisch
    OgNasty
    Chefin
    eneloop
    Dabs
    qwk
    dogie
    itod
    Blazed
    NeuroticFish
yahoo62278 via:
    Direwolve735
    coinlocket$
    o_e_l_e_o
    The Pharmacist
    Steamtyme
    marlboroza
    qwk
    Kate Beckett
    examplens
    mdayonliner
coinlocket$ via:
    Piggy
    mole0815
    duesoldi
    LoyceV
    Micio
    Makkara
    JohnUser
    babo
    DarkStar_
    asche
Lesbian Cow via:
    krogothmanhattan
    minerjones
    bill gator
    Mitchell
    teeGUMES
    TECSHARE
    yogg
    BitcoinPenny
    anonymousminer
    Ticked
monkeynuts via:
    krogothmanhattan
    minerjones
    Lauda
    TMAN
    Hhampuz
    qwk
    TheNewAnon135246
    TECSHARE
    yogg
    BitcoinPenny
ibminer via:
    theymos
    suchmoon
    Vod
    The Pharmacist
    Lauda
    marlboroza
    TryNinja
    BitCryptex
    TMAN
    Quickseller
BitcoinPenny via:
    zazarb
    Flying Hellfish
    minerjones
    bill gator
    Kryptowerk
    Lesbian Cow
    TheNewAnon135246
    teeGUMES
    yogg
    anonymousminer
achow101 via:
    zazarb
    ETFbitcoin
    joniboini
    DooMAD
    RGBKey
    DarkStar_
    HCP
    TryNinja
    Quickseller
    TMAN
greenplastic via:
    krogothmanhattan
    OgNasty
    ChiBitCTy
    bill gator
    Hhampuz
    qwk
    Kryptowerk
    Lesbian Cow
    Hiroaki
    TheNewAnon135246
owlcatz via:
    Lutpin
    romanornr
    krogothmanhattan
    suchmoon
    The Pharmacist
    xtraelv
    minerjones
    TMAN
    TheFuzzStone
    qwk
TMAN via:
    Jet Cash
    krogothmanhattan
    suchmoon
    The Pharmacist
    Vod
    Alex_Sr
    Lauda
    amishmanish
    stompix
    nutildah
krogothmanhattan via:
    kenzawak
    frankbitcoin
    OgNasty
    d5000
    iasenko
    bill gator
    TMAN
    qwk
    eddie13
    Kryptowerk
actmyname via:
    LoyceV
    suchmoon
    The Pharmacist
    o_e_l_e_o
    minerjones
    DarkStar_
    iasenko
    HCP
    Lauda
    hilariousandco
marlboroza via:
    LoyceV
    suchmoon
    The Pharmacist
    o_e_l_e_o
    taikuri13
    xtraelv
    HCP
    iasenko
    hilariousandco
    Lauda
Cyrus via:
    theymos
    LoyceV
    achow101
    EFS
    OgNasty
    iasenko
    ICOEthics
    Quickseller
    Veleor
    eddie13
DarkStar_ via:
    kenzawak
    LoyceV
    TheQuin
    suchmoon
    o_e_l_e_o
    The Pharmacist
    DooMAD
    Steamtyme
    iasenko
    HCP
Hhampuz via:
    SaltySpitoon
    Flying Hellfish
    krogothmanhattan
    minerjones
    ChiBitCTy
    Lauda
    marlboroza
    bill gator
    TMAN
    qwk
dooglus via:
    theymos
    LoyceV
    achow101
    suchmoon
    mprep
    Vod
    OgNasty
    RGBKey
    xtraelv
    RHavar
qwk via:
    mithrim
    mole0815
    The Pharmacist
    xtraelv
    phantastisch
    Toxic2040
    aundroid
    Abdussamad
    twbt
    ibminer
Mitchell via:
    Lutpin
    achow101
    krogothmanhattan
    The Pharmacist
    RHavar
    hilariousandco
    Lauda
    EcuaMobi
    TMAN
    TryNinja
gmaxwell via:
    theymos
    nullius
    achow101
    ETFbitcoin
    LoyceV
    The Pharmacist
    joniboini
    OgNasty
    xtraelv
    Welsh
OgNasty via:
    theymos
    SaltySpitoon
    krogothmanhattan
    HagssFIN
    PolyPanto
    Vod
    cryptohunter
    TheFuzzStone
    bill gator
    mikeywith
minerjones via:
    joniboini
    Steamtyme
    TMAN
    bill gator
    Hhampuz
    Xprim777
    Ticked
    qwk
    yahoo62278
    actmyname
Blazed via:
    LoyceV
    The Pharmacist
    EcuaMobi
    suchmoon
    minerjones
    d5000
    Toxic2040
    TMAN
    Lauda
    Tomatocage
The Pharmacist via:
    LoyceV
    suchmoon
    Jet Cash
    xtraelv
    o_e_l_e_o
    Vod
    coinlocket$
    Toxic2040
    TMAN
    Lauda
LoyceV via:
    micgoossens
    DdmrDdmr
    TheQuin
    Jet Cash
    suchmoon
    OgNasty
    o_e_l_e_o
    coinlocket$
    DooMAD
    Vod
Lauda via:
    gmaxwell
    suchmoon
    minerjones
    The Pharmacist
    Limx Dev
    Vod
    hilariousandco
    Aerys2
    scutzi128
    Coolcryptovator
suchmoon via:
    DdmrDdmr
    mole0815
    Last of the V8s
    hilariousandco
    The Pharmacist
    Flying Hellfish
    Coolcryptovator
    bill gator
    Vod
    o_e_l_e_o
Vod via:
    LoyceV
    Last of the V8s
    suchmoon
    The Pharmacist
    Jet Cash
    o_e_l_e_o
    TMAN
    Lauda
    asche
    xtraelv
hilariousandco via:
    theymos
    LoyceV
    The Pharmacist
    suchmoon
    Jet Cash
    Lauda
    TMAN
    marlboroza
    Hhampuz
    o_e_l_e_o
theymos via:
    DdmrDdmr
    Last of the V8s
    o_e_l_e_o
    achow101
    Vod
    xtraelv
    joniboini
    krogothmanhattan
    iasenko
    coinlocket$

Code:

SebastianJu via:
    OgNasty
    qwk
ezeminer via:
    minerjones
    TMAN
zazarb via:
    yahoo62278
    mdayonliner
EcuaMobi via:
    suchmoon
    d5000
Lesbian Cow via:
    krogothmanhattan
    bill gator
TookDk via:
    philipma1957
    OgNasty
BitcoinPenny via:
    zazarb
    Flying Hellfish
yogg via:
    krogothmanhattan
    asche
asche via:
    mole0815
    DarkStar_
Coolcryptovator via:
    coinlocket$
    ICOEthics
Halab via:
    theymos
    kenzawak
greenplastic via:
    Hhampuz
    krogothmanhattan
monkeynuts via:
    Lauda
    Hhampuz
JohnUser via:
    Lafu
    DarkStar_
Jet Cash via:
    joniboini
    The Pharmacist
tmfp via:
    suchmoon
    ibminer
yahoo62278 via:
    o_e_l_e_o
    The Pharmacist
Welsh via:
    DdmrDdmr
    Jet Cash
cryptodevil via:
    LoyceV
    xtraelv
xtraelv via:
    DdmrDdmr
    taikuri13
mprep via:
    LoyceV
    Welsh
Lafu via:
    Vod
    mole0815
Cyrus via:
    theymos
    achow101
krogothmanhattan via:
    iasenko
    eddie13
ICOEthics via:
    coinlocket$
    xtraelv
owlcatz via:
    Lutpin
    romanornr
minerjones via:
    joniboini
    Steamtyme
coinlocket$ via:
    Piggy
    LoyceV
TMAN via:
    Jet Cash
    suchmoon
OgNasty via:
    theymos
    HagssFIN
achow101 via:
    ETFbitcoin
    HCP
ibminer via:
    theymos
    Vod
Hhampuz via:
    SaltySpitoon
    marlboroza
dooglus via:
    theymos
    achow101
Mitchell via:
    Lutpin
    achow101
Blazed via:
    LoyceV
    The Pharmacist
qwk via:
    Toxic2040
    The Pharmacist
marlboroza via:
    Veleor
    LoyceV
actmyname via:
    suchmoon
    o_e_l_e_o
Lauda via:
    gmaxwell
    Limx Dev
DarkStar_ via:
    TheQuin
    hilariousandco
gmaxwell via:
    theymos
    nullius
The Pharmacist via:
    LoyceV
    BitCryptex
Vod via:
    Last of the V8s
    QuestionAuthority
hilariousandco via:
    theymos
    Jet Cash
suchmoon via:
    Last of the V8s
    DdmrDdmr
LoyceV via:
    micgoossens
    DdmrDdmr
theymos via:
    DdmrDdmr
    Last of the V8s

[Lauda]

Here's how the voting would work if it were performed right now. The first one comes after all of the other criteria, and is then fed into the second.
-snip-

Nice work, although I believe that the number of people that will understand the process will drop by over 90%.

[OgNasty]

Here's how the voting would work if it were performed right now. The first one comes after all of the other criteria, and is then fed into the second.
-snip-

Nice work, although I believe that the number of people that will understand the process will drop by over 90%.

Gotta respect the effort involved.

[TECSHARE]

The trust system is constantly abused for political as well as likely organized criminal purposes. It provides cover for these people to abuse honest contributing members of the forum with impunity. The question is not if they help, it is at what cost? The cost is consistently driving away MANY new users who simply didn't understand the unwritten mob rules enforced here. The thief simply spends a few bucks on a new account and is back in minutes. Legitimate users burned this way don't come back, perpetually putting us in a feedback loop of driving away the decent user base while providing cover for the cons.

Blindly following the trust is a HUGE issue. There is no way to even know if the same person is truly in control of the account any more at the end of the day, and purporting otherwise is disingenuous and only harms the people it was designed to protect most, the newer users. It is at its best little more than a notification system for people to warn others of suspect behavior, and at worst a system of protecting organized crime and mobbing cliques.

"The only people you see complain are mostly the ones that have actually been caught with doing something bad.."

That sounds like something dirty cops say when some one tries to get the cop to follow the law too... the rules are for thee and not for me.

Could you give me a few examples?

There are rules set for this forum, as well as guidelines. If they are not followed and a new member gets negative trust for something that was against that, is it not deserved? I'm not really sure that it affects as many people as you paint it out to be.

I'd also like to request an example of organized crime that is being protected by the current trust system as that sounds like a conspiracy theory at best.

The funny thing is merely giving examples was the only thing it took to start a years long flame war with one of these people resulting in exactly this type of harassment. It doesn't have to be some kind of mafia, but that doesn't mean it isn't. It can be as simple as an organic clique of users actively suppressing those going against their plans, or even publicly questioning them.

Please now, lets not act like people doing shady backhanded things to each other here is an uncommon occurrence. You need to call it a conspiracy theory to try to make my claim look fantastical and unrealistic when it is pretty obvious how it can be abused.

A bad actor gets control of 1 or more highly ranked accounts, does their conning, if anyone tries to point it out they can simply make them look like a scam artist themselves or just mob them and mass report them until they get banned. I have personally experienced it MULTIPLE times, and I KNOW I am not the only one. The problem is if you have no ratings well you are just a scammer, and if you do have good ratings, well now you have something they can leverage against you.

[S_Therapist]

Here's how the voting would work if it were performed right now. The first one comes after all of the other criteria, and is then fed into the second.
-snip-

Nice work, although I believe that the number of people that will understand the process will drop by over 90%.

There will be someone who will make it easy and force people to get it within minutes  

[The Cryptovator]

Here's how the voting would work if it were performed right now. The first one comes after all of the other criteria, and is then fed into the second.

For example I have got 10 vote from 10 earned merit holder. One of them is Theb, if he/she exclude me from trust list the will I remove from DT1 ? Or it will fiiled by other vote I got. Because here is limited only 10 as we can see. We can't see how many total vote we got. If not fill from others vote (if I have) then it will be very easy to remove someone from DT1.

[LoyceV]

Just a thought:

~ votes ~

I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Making votes depend on earned Merit can increase the chance of users not meriting a good post from someone they don't agree with, to keep them from having voting powers.

[mOgliE]

Nice work, although I believe that the number of people that will understand the process will drop by over 90%.

I confirm.

What the hell is going on? Previous system was ok to understand but here...
Though it's not a bad thing because it means only people actually caring about DT will take the time to understand it.

If I understood correctly though the idea would be to flat out votes in order to get the biggest possible DT1?
Shouldn't be the other way around? Especially as the merit sources mean merit will only increase, DT1 will also only increase. Ultimate state in theory would be everyone in DT with this system.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Gotta respect the effort involved.

Word.  The mathematics makes my eyes twitch, but I'll trust that Theymos is doing his best and that the math-oriented folks on the forum know what he's doing.  I'll have to wait for the dumbed-down version thread where someone explains it with a picture (lol) that's on the level of a McDonald's menu for people who can't read.

Props to you, Theymos.  You've obviously put a lot of thought into this and I respect that greatly.

[Piggy]

- You must have at least 2 people directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 250, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited.

since this part it's quite significant, this is a list of the people which can "vote" and the number of votes they have at their disposal at the moment (144 users):

Code:

13	theymos
6	LoyceV
6	satoshi
5	DdmrDdmr
5	The Pharmacist
5	hilariousetc
5	micgoossens
5	suchmoon
4	Last of the V8s
3	Jet Cash
3	Lutpin
3	Piggy
3	Vod
3	achow101
3	gmaxwell
3	nullius
3	o_e_l_e_o
3	xhomerx10
3	xtraelv
2	BobLawblaw
2	HCP
2	HairyMaclairy
2	Hhampuz
2	JayJuanGee
2	Lauda
2	OgNasty
2	TMAN
2	abhiseshakana
2	bitmover
2	bob123
2	coinlocket$
2	iasenko
2	infofront
2	jojo69
2	joniboini
2	krogothmanhattan
2	marlboroza
2	mole0815
2	qwk
2	theyoungmillionaire
1	1Referee
1	1miau
1	ATMcoin
1	Ajpa94
1	Alex_Sr
1	AlyattesLydia
1	BTCforJoe
1	BitCryptex
1	Carlton Banks
1	Claymore
1	Coding Enthusiast
1	Coolcryptovator
1	DannyHamilton
1	DarkStar_
1	ETFbitcoin
1	Elwar
1	Flying Hellfish
1	Foxpup
1	GameKyuubi
1	Goran_
1	HagssFIN
1	Hal
1	HeRetiK
1	Husna QA
1	ICOEthics
1	LFC_Bitcoin
1	Lafu
1	LeGaulois
1	Limx Dev
1	Matthias9515
1	PHI1618
1	QuestionAuthority
1	RichDaniel
1	RuSS512
1	SaltySpitoon
1	Smart man
1	Steamtyme
1	TheQuin
1	Torque
1	Toxic2040
1	TryNinja
1	Tukang Becak
1	Welsh
1	Xal0lex
1	Xynerise
1	actmyname
1	alex bond
1	arulbero
1	asche
1	athanz88
1	bill gator
1	bitserve
1	bones261
1	buwaytress
1	by rallier
1	d5000
1	d_eddie
1	deeperx
1	eddie13
1	esmanthra
1	explorder
1	fine99
1	franky1
1	gawlea
1	gentlemand
1	hilariousandco
1	hugeblack
1	ibminer
1	identifyuser
1	kenzawak
1	kirreev070
1	mdayonliner
1	mfort312
1	minerjones
1	mithrim
1	mocacinno
1	morvillz7z
1	mprep
1	mstfprcn
1	mu_enrico
1	nullCoiner
1	pandukelana2712
1	paxmao
1	philipma1957
1	pitipawn
1	pooya87
1	poptop
1	pugman
1	romanornr
1	roycilik
1	sabotag3x
1	saulzaents
1	seoincorporation
1	shorena
1	sidehack
1	sncc
1	stompix
1	taikuri13
1	tonych
1	vit05
1	vlad230
1	yahoo62278
1	zazarb
1	zentdex

[LoyceV]

Code:

~snip list~

At least 6 users are banned:

Code:

979216: RuSS512
925926: gawlea
227450: identifyuser
915311: mstfprcn
944905: saulzaents
1331637: zentdex

Some of them are still included, only one still includes another user:

Code:

mstfprcn->Kubra Dam

@theymos: should the custom trust list of a banned user be deleted? If I understand correctly, their existing inclusions still count towards voting.

[DabLjat]

- You must have at least 2 people directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 250, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited.

since this part it's quite significant, this is a list of the people which can "vote" and the number of votes they have at their disposal at the moment (144 users):

Code:

13	theymos
6	LoyceV
6	satoshi
5	DdmrDdmr
5	The Pharmacist
5	hilariousetc
5	micgoossens
5	suchmoon
4	Last of the V8s
3	Jet Cash
3	Lutpin
3	Piggy
3	Vod
3	achow101
3	gmaxwell
3	nullius
3	o_e_l_e_o
3	xhomerx10
3	xtraelv
2	BobLawblaw
2	HCP
2	HairyMaclairy
2	Hhampuz
2	JayJuanGee
2	Lauda
2	OgNasty
2	TMAN
2	abhiseshakana
2	bitmover
2	bob123
2	coinlocket$
2	iasenko
2	infofront
2	jojo69
2	joniboini
2	krogothmanhattan
2	marlboroza
2	mole0815
2	qwk
2	theyoungmillionaire
1	1Referee
1	1miau
1	ATMcoin
1	Ajpa94
1	Alex_Sr
1	AlyattesLydia
1	BTCforJoe
1	BitCryptex
1	Carlton Banks
1	Claymore
1	Coding Enthusiast
1	Coolcryptovator
1	DannyHamilton
1	DarkStar_
1	ETFbitcoin
1	Elwar
1	Flying Hellfish
1	Foxpup
1	GameKyuubi
1	Goran_
1	HagssFIN
1	Hal
1	HeRetiK
1	Husna QA
1	ICOEthics
1	LFC_Bitcoin
1	Lafu
1	LeGaulois
1	Limx Dev
1	Matthias9515
1	PHI1618
1	QuestionAuthority
1	RichDaniel
1	RuSS512
1	SaltySpitoon
1	Smart man
1	Steamtyme
1	TheQuin
1	Torque
1	Toxic2040
1	TryNinja
1	Tukang Becak
1	Welsh
1	Xal0lex
1	Xynerise
1	actmyname
1	alex bond
1	arulbero
1	asche
1	athanz88
1	bill gator
1	bitserve
1	bones261
1	buwaytress
1	by rallier
1	d5000
1	d_eddie
1	deeperx
1	eddie13
1	esmanthra
1	explorder
1	fine99
1	franky1
1	gawlea
1	gentlemand
1	hilariousandco
1	hugeblack
1	ibminer
1	identifyuser
1	kenzawak
1	kirreev070
1	mdayonliner
1	mfort312
1	minerjones
1	mithrim
1	mocacinno
1	morvillz7z
1	mprep
1	mstfprcn
1	mu_enrico
1	nullCoiner
1	pandukelana2712
1	paxmao
1	philipma1957
1	pitipawn
1	pooya87
1	poptop
1	pugman
1	romanornr
1	roycilik
1	sabotag3x
1	saulzaents
1	seoincorporation
1	shorena
1	sidehack
1	sncc
1	stompix
1	taikuri13
1	tonych
1	vit05
1	vlad230
1	yahoo62278
1	zazarb
1	zentdex

And where the user chimk?

[LoyceV]

And where the user chimk?

His 100 airdropped Merit doesn't count as "earned".

[o_e_l_e_o]

-snip-

As of this morning, I now get 4 votes.

@theymos: should the custom trust list of a banned user be deleted? If I understand correctly, their existing inclusions still count towards voting.

I think that would be sensible, not just as a punishment for being banned, but also so we don't see an ever increasing number of abandoned accounts with static trust lists. If a well trusted member goes rogue, we could be in a situation where we are permanently relying on other DT1 exclusions to keep them off DT1 thanks to unmaintained trust lists.

[DabLjat]

And where the user chimk?

His 100 airdropped Merit doesn't count as "earned".

Yes, true, and where the user Veleor?

[TMAN]

-snip-

As of this morning, I now get 4 votes.

@theymos: should the custom trust list of a banned user be deleted? If I understand correctly, their existing inclusions still count towards voting.

I think that would be sensible, not just as a punishment for being banned, but also so we don't see an ever increasing number of abandoned accounts with static trust lists. If a well trusted member goes rogue, we could be in a situation where we are permanently relying on other DT1 exclusions to keep them off DT1 thanks to unmaintained trust lists.

Yes, can't understand why it isn't active already - if someone is eligible but banned by the rest of DT1 then surely there votes are redundant

[KingZee]

G = (U, V, E) is a bipartite graph with edges from the left side, U, to the right side, V. There are N vertices in U and M vertices in V. A "capacity" function c: U -> Z is defined for every vertex in U. A constant integer "target value" T exists.

Candidate solutions are subgraphs S = (U_S, V_S, E_S) of G satisfing the following requirements:
 1. For each vertex u in U_S, the number of edges attached to u must be less than or equal to c(u).
 2. For each vertex v in V_S, the number of edges attached to v must be greater than or equal to T.
 
Find an S such that the number of vertices in V_S is maximal.

Example:


Note that this graph is depicted as directed, but that doesn't actually matter.

Note:

 - To satisfy requirement #1, you must exclude at least two of (u1, v1) or (u1, v3) or (u1, v4).
 - To satisfy requirement #1, you must exclude at least one of (u2, v1) or (u2, v2).
 - To satisfy requirement #1, you must exclude at least one of (u3, v1), (u3, v2) or (u3, v3)
 - To satisfy requirement #2, you must exclude at least v4 (since it cannot possibly get T=2 edges), and possibly more depending on the rest of S.

In a very naïve greedy algorithm, you might just fill up vertices on the right from top to bottom until you can't do anything else. That'd give a candidate solution of:
(u1, v1)
(u2, v1)
This is a valid candidate solution, but it's non-optimal because it includes only 1 vertex in V whereas 2 are possible. In order to achieve an optimal solution, you need some backtracking, at least. In this case there are two equally-good optimal solutions:
(u1, v3)
(u3, v3)
(u2, v2)
(u3, v2)
or:
(u1, v1)
(u3, v3)
(u2, v2)
(u3, v2)

It becomes more complicated as the graph gets bigger.

Writing it down in this way reminds me a lot of the stable marriage problem, which gives me hope that it can be solved exactly.

Two more questions :

M (number of V vertices) is not given right? We have the number of u vertices, their capacity, and T the constant, and our solution is finding the vectors (u,v) that satisfy the requirements with the maximum number possible of v vertices?

Typo on your end in the 2nd optimal solution? I figure you meant either v1 or v3 for one of those vectors?

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And where the user chimk?

Yes, true, and where the user Veleor?

Can you stop?