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January 15, 2019, 09:34:59 AM
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What's wrong:
1) Not a single feedback has a reference.
2) Giving feedback for people you have "known for more than six months".
3) Giving feedback solely because you think someone is an "expert" or solely because they are a moderator.

Can you provide a proof-link about these words?
Where can I read the rules for feedback?
I can not. There are no rules. There are some guidelines but they are vague. Most of this stuff comes from implicit/explicit consensus on how you should handle yourself as a DT member. Were you ready to become one, you would have known this by now.

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FYI, you are already excluded several times so it doesn't matter anymore (taikuri13 (-3)).
I'm not surprised
You are not DT material anyways; don't take it personally. One inclusion nowadays means nothing.

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January 15, 2019, 09:42:03 AM
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I can not. There are no rules. There are some guidelines but they are vague. Most of this stuff comes from implicit/explicit consensus on how you should handle yourself as a DT member. Were you ready to become one, you would have known this by now.

Maybe there's a proof-link on the blurry recommendations?
You are saying that I was wrong.
I want to know what my mistake is to prevent it in the future.

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You are not DT material anyways; don't take it personally. One inclusion nowadays means nothing.

That's not a problem right now.

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January 15, 2019, 09:44:52 AM
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I can not. There are no rules. There are some guidelines but they are vague. Most of this stuff comes from implicit/explicit consensus on how you should handle yourself as a DT member. Were you ready to become one, you would have known this by now.
Maybe there's a proof-link on the blurry recommendations?
You are saying that I was wrong.
I want to know what my mistake is to prevent it in the future.
Either you don't understand English or you're wasting my time. I listed your mistakes:

What's wrong:
1) Not a single feedback has a reference.
2) Giving feedback for people you have "known for more than six months".
3) Giving feedback solely because you think someone is an "expert" or solely because they are a moderator.
There's no proof-link; don't be a nuisance.

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Last edit: January 15, 2019, 10:23:29 AM by eddie13
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Well...
Cryptopia was just hacked and many major crypto news publications are running stories including suspicions of an inside job..

Their main reps here are now on DT1 so I guess we will see how that goes..

I suggest they do not use their DT powers in any relation to this event, to tag "fudders" or whatever, and we should watch to make sure noone is intimidated about speaking about the situation..

I'm not suggesting they be excluded but I can just imagine what it would have been like if the cryptsy crew were on DT when that went down..
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January 15, 2019, 09:56:14 AM
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Either you don't understand English or you're wasting my time. I listed your mistakes:


And the last question.

BitcoinTalk Rules = are you and your words only?

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There's no proof-link; don't be a nuisance.

Thank you for the clear answer.
This answer helped me a lot.

ps: I've read your posts since 2015.
Why have you changed so much, Lauda?

You don't have to answer. I don't want to waste your time.

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Hi

my question: may need to prohibit the registration of names like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2526482

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Last edit: January 15, 2019, 10:42:15 AM by Lauda
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BitcoinTalk Rules = are you and your words only?
Yes, theymos is my master and I created a cult. Grin

Hi

my question: may need to prohibit the registration of names like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2526482
Already DefaultTrust (22). Nevermind, this doesn't work (tested by creating my own account prefixed; sorry theymos you will have to kill them). I agree that he should prohibit '~' + existing username (PM sent).

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January 15, 2019, 11:22:25 AM
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Yes, theymos is my master and I created a cult. Grin


Yeah, I read about it  Grin

Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

But I also read this:

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(But I don't want DT to be absolute garbage, either, since trust-newbies need some guidance.)

Therefore, I will filter out my feedbacks and leave there those to whom I can safely entrust my money.

ps: Perhaps a thread with recommendations will be useful to many users

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ps: Perhaps a thread with recommendations will be useful to many users
The trust system is here for almost 5 years, afaik and you are here for 1 year almost.
Everything can be found here if you use search option and will get a better result if you use google for searching.

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January 15, 2019, 11:58:23 AM
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Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

All I see is the confirmation Lauda is a she.

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Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

All I see is the confirmation Lauda is a she.




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January 15, 2019, 03:06:03 PM
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Please add reference links to all your negative ratings.

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Report correct post(you will figure which one) to moderator. Write this in comment: "Selling Serbian documents is illegal".

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Report correct post(you will figure which one) to moderator. Write this in comment: "Selling Serbian documents is illegal".

Done, the guy sells everything, maybe one day he will sell his own family

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Please add reference links to all your negative ratings.

Thank you for correcting me! I'm not experienced yet, but I'm learning fast!

Done! All negative ratings now with links!

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taikuri13 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1855828 | some random who sent 16 positive trusts today, with no previous feedbacks left
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we know each other a little bit, I translated your thread into Russian.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5047016.0 (Original topic: Overview of Bitcoin Accepting Sportsbooks (with margin/house edge comparisons))

I've never left a review on this forum.
If I did something wrong, tell me.

My feedback to people I have known for more than six months.
Yes, they write in Russian.

My list includes a moderator, experts who help forum participants, people who investigate fraud.

If you've been helping xtraelv with investigations and plan on leaving negative trusts, that's fine with me. I've removed you from my suggested exclusions list after xtraelv stated it.
It's just a bit unusual for someone to not leave a single trust rating, and all of a sudden leave 16 on the day they were added to DT2.

You might be confusing trust list with trust feedback too. You don't have to leave someone trust feedback if you want to add them to your trust list.

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If you've been helping xtraelv with investigations and plan on leaving negative trusts, that's fine with me. I've removed you from my suggested exclusions list after xtraelv stated it.
It's just a bit unusual for someone to not leave a single trust rating, and all of a sudden leave 16 on the day they were added to DT2.

You might be confusing trust list with trust feedback too. You don't have to leave someone trust feedback if you want to add them to your trust list.

Yeah, I was able to figure it out.
And I understood my mistake.

I deleted 10 feedbacks.
Now I understand that every feedback from DT2 participants is a big responsibility.

ps: I have helped and will continue to help xtraelv regardless of whether I am at DT2 or not.

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Since lot of new face on DT network, I am expecting a suggestion's/motivational post from old DT members. To be honest lot of here even don't know where should leave what kind of feedback. So if there is few suggestion's then we can learn from it especially who is totally new.   

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Since lot of new face on DT network, I am expecting a suggestion's/motivational post from old DT members. To be honest lot of here even don't know where should leave what kind of feedback. So if there is few suggestion's then we can learn from it especially who is totally new.   
Here's some quick advice:
1) For positive feedback: Be very conservative.
2) For negative feedback: Be strict and follow the general standards (what we tag for and what we don't tag for).
3) For trust lists: Not that important unless you are DT1, but I'd say be even more conservative than 1).

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January 15, 2019, 07:18:16 PM
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Well, we almost made it a week with the new trust system before newly appointed DT members were connected to a large scam (>$70,000)...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097164.0

20 BTC jackpot not paid out to a user playing by the rules. DT member wearing a paid signature from the accused scam site rushing to defend it in spite of having the exact opposite opinion on previous similar cases.
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January 15, 2019, 07:19:00 PM
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Now I understand that every feedback from DT2 participants is a big responsibility.
That's what all new DT2 members need to know, and they need to be prepared to defend every feedback they leave.  It's an almost certainty that if you leave a neg on someone, it'll get challenged either by PM or in a thread, so all the new DT2 members should be prepared for that.  I'm pretty sure DT1 knows this stuff already.

To be honest lot of here even don't know where should leave what kind of feedback. So if there is few suggestion's then we can learn from it especially who is totally new.   
Leave appropriate feedback with a valid reference link if it's a neg, and be careful who you give positives to.  I've already said that, but it's the best advice IMO.  Nobody is forcing any new DT2 members to start leaving feedbacks, so hopefully none of you feel pressured to do so.

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