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Thank you for saying that because we have many opponents here in France. On bitcointalk, in the French local board, I can see that the French (the French of bitcointalk) are against this movement, maybe they no longer live in France, maybe they watch TV, I don't know, some even say that we are too stupid... On the internet and in the press everyone seems to be against us. On the other hand, on the street, everyone I meet supports us. I personally support what you are trying to do there. You have supporters all over the world. We see your government trying to use violence to suppress you. Just don't let the Socialists and Communists infiltrate or the movement is over. I saw it happen with my own eyes during Occupy Wallstreet.
I don't know why you're talking about socialists, we don't have the same definition that you I think.... Anyway, no one wants a political movement... except the government, it would allow it to stop everything by putting a puppet in power. |
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On the internet and in the press everyone seems to be against us.
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What the fuck do you know about your own nation mOgliE? You were just saying this protest was dying down weeks ago. You have to pull your head out of your ass first to see what is going on around you in your own country.
What can I say TECSHARE? You don't care about facts... Protests is becoming tougher every week but it IS dying... Number of participants only decrease, support for the protest only decrease... I can't say it very differently: I consider a movement is dying when the number of participant of this movement only decreases in time. If you have a different definition of what is a "dying movement" then let me know... Pretty much all of the massive media network in Europe has been (at least temporarily) banned from reporting on this anymore. -snip-
However, after 13 weeks (14 next Saturday) I can tell you that the protest movement is not about to stop.
I watched a livestream from an independent source the other day; it doesn't seem to be going in the direction of stopping, it seems to be growing. You shouldn't stop, so don't let it stop. The French people (among the people of many more countries) have been abused long enough. Well tons of people hope it won't die. I go to the protests when I'm in France and people in the movement are so desperate I think the only way to stop them completely will be to arrest or kill them. Sadly considering the number of dictatorial laws passed I think that's exactly what they intend to. French government just passed a law to allow protest ban of selected people. It will allow them to ban the leaders of the movement one by one until there is really no one left :/ |
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Pretty much all of the massive media network in Europe has been (at least temporarily) banned from reporting on this anymore. -snip-
However, after 13 weeks (14 next Saturday) I can tell you that the protest movement is not about to stop.
I watched a livestream from an independent source the other day; it doesn't seem to be going in the direction of stopping, it seems to be growing. You shouldn't stop, so don't let it stop. The French people (among the people of many more countries) have been abused long enough. Well tons of people hope it won't die. I go to the protests when I'm in France and people in the movement are so desperate I think the only way to stop them completely will be to arrest or kill them. Sadly considering the number of dictatorial laws passed I think that's exactly what they intend to. French government just passed a law to allow protest ban of selected people. It will allow them to ban the leaders of the movement one by one until there is really no one left :/ I've heard about that, yes. Well, maybe it is time for the French revolution to really repeat itself. What a lovely manifestation of democracy; but at least we can scream and shout that socialism and communism are bad, right?  |
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February 12, 2019, 09:38:39 AM |
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I've heard about that, yes. Well, maybe it is time for the French revolution to really repeat itself. What a lovely manifestation of democracy; but at least we can scream and shout that socialism and communism are bad, right? Not sure I understood that bolded part. Indeed a lovely democracy. France has been pointed at by multiples association including Amnisty International and Freedom of Press association as leaning towards dictatorial habits. Abuse of power threatening freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom to protest. It's clearly a flawed democracy to the least... |
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February 12, 2019, 10:19:31 AM |
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I consider a movement is dying when the number of participant of this movement only decreases in time. 300,000 every week, x13 weeks, why do you say it decreases ? In some city it grow up, in others it decrease but but the average remains about the same. https://france-police.org/Marseilles should wake up... It's the only city where they are not afraid against cops (with Toulouse maybe). This one show they don't care with macron : https://twitter.com/hypermestres/status/1094924872021626886 (you can find many others). |
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February 12, 2019, 10:39:26 AM |
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I consider a movement is dying when the number of participant of this movement only decreases in time. 300,000 every week, x13 weeks, why do you say it decreases ? In some city it grow up, in others it decrease but but the average remains about the same. https://france-police.org/Marseilles should wake up... It's the only city where they are not afraid against cops (with Toulouse maybe). This one show they don't care with macron : https://twitter.com/hypermestres/status/1094924872021626886 (you can find many others). Acte 13: 240k Acte 12: 290k Acte 11: 330k Acte 10: 350k Acte 9: 360k I haven't the numbers for before with this source (and comparing 2 different sources makes no sense) I'm not ok with the movement dying, I'd rather have the police join forces with population and everything goes even stronger. But that doesn't mean I'm blind at the fact that -33% in 5 weeks is a dying movement. A great, strong and incredible movement. But decreasing. |
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February 12, 2019, 02:45:51 PM |
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the coldest month of the year!!
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what the newspapers say, they only talk about "casseurs" - translate in english for me ;)
300,000 average anyway and it's going to go up. and government have really become crazy. it didn't happen since 40 years++
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February 12, 2019, 02:51:32 PM |
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the coldest month of the year!!
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I never said there wasn't a very good reason for the movement to be on the decrease. Just that it was. what the newspapers say, they only talk about "casseurs" - translate in english for me  I wouldn't know. That's a French invention, typical novlangue. The word was created for politics to be able to divide the people with the will to protest between violent and peaceful ones and make them fight together. Even though you need both peaceful and violent people for a protest to be successful.
300,000 average anyway and it's going to go up. and government have really become crazy. it didn't happen since 40 years++
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February 12, 2019, 02:58:59 PM |
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To be honest with you, and honest with people that have send us encouragement : if it go to far away it's not good, I don't want civil war, imagine what would happen in Europe ?
Edit : sorry to say it but some area would be happy if Europe is destroy (Asia and so on...).
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February 12, 2019, 03:20:06 PM |
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I have to make a new post for this :
Maastricht was OK, union of people in Europe, after that they fuck us with union of bank, not people.
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February 12, 2019, 03:54:45 PM |
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One more thing : theymos said me if law from france ask my ip to his country he will give it.
So it's not a safe place to talk against about french crazy government.
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February 12, 2019, 04:08:26 PM |
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One more thing : theymos said me if law from france ask my ip to his country he will give it.
No, I said if I get a subpoena from the US then I might have to turn over data, and that in any case you should not be trusting anyone with your IP if it matters to you. |
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February 12, 2019, 04:11:05 PM |
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I just say it's not safe, nothing more. That mean : there's better place to talk about what happen in France.
edit : Sorry to edit man but: every country know every peoples revolution come from France.
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I've heard about that, yes. Well, maybe it is time for the French revolution to really repeat itself. What a lovely manifestation of democracy; but at least we can scream and shout that socialism and communism are bad, right? Not sure I understood that bolded part. Indeed a lovely democracy. France has been pointed at by multiples association including Amnisty International and Freedom of Press association as leaning towards dictatorial habits. Abuse of power threatening freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom to protest. It's clearly a flawed democracy to the least... Its Laudas way of being too much of a pussy to address me directly because they know they can't win in a direct debate about... well pretty much anything. Thank you for saying that because we have many opponents here in France. On bitcointalk, in the French local board, I can see that the French (the French of bitcointalk) are against this movement, maybe they no longer live in France, maybe they watch TV, I don't know, some even say that we are too stupid... On the internet and in the press everyone seems to be against us. On the other hand, on the street, everyone I meet supports us. I personally support what you are trying to do there. You have supporters all over the world. We see your government trying to use violence to suppress you. Just don't let the Socialists and Communists infiltrate or the movement is over. I saw it happen with my own eyes during Occupy Wallstreet.
I don't know why you're talking about socialists, we don't have the same definition that you I think.... Anyway, no one wants a political movement... except the government, it would allow it to stop everything by putting a puppet in power. Socialism has a specific definition. No one wants a political movement but this is inherently political, further more entrenched political movements have incentive to infiltrate and misdirect, which is what they will attempt to do. |
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February 12, 2019, 06:16:16 PM
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Guys, you don't get what happen here..
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February 12, 2019, 06:30:41 PM |
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Guys, you don't get what happen here..
You might want to quote or at least explain... |
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February 12, 2019, 06:32:13 PM |
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Guys, you don't get what happen here..
You might want to quote or at least explain... I would like yes.. but i'm not a leader. |
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February 12, 2019, 06:49:41 PM |
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Guys, you don't get what happen here..
You might want to quote or at least explain... I would like yes.. but i'm not a leader. The leader of your own thoughts and opinions? Also I should mention this mentality is kind of what caused this problem in the first place... |
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February 12, 2019, 11:40:21 PM |
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Guys, you don't get what happen here..
You might want to quote or at least explain... I would like yes.. but i'm not a leader. The leader of your own thoughts and opinions? Also I should mention this mentality is kind of what caused this problem in the first place... No, I listen what people against macron says. I'm not a leader neither admin anywhere. |
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