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March 04, 2019, 02:20:35 AM
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you are on DT2 which really is just about the same with even less drama, i personally can't deal with all that, i rather discuss a miner's issue than having to go on a debate on why did i tag someone or anything trust related for that matter.

People can change their trust lists at any time.

 Roll Eyes yes they can

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March 04, 2019, 02:36:46 AM
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I think you meant " inclusions" , makes perfect sense now, but is there a chance that he won't be on DT on the next round assuming for an example that  1 of his voter's vote goes to someone else who "needs it more"?  i remember reading something related to this but i can't recall the exact point.

     I just counted the number of supervotes people have who have included me in their trust lists. The count is ~38. If I didn't make it on DT1 because I couldn't get 2 out of 38 votes, I would think theymos would need to revisit his algorithm. However, I only have 12 people including me on the list. 3 could drop me like a hot potato at any moment. The later situation would probably be the most likely, IMHO.
    However, if I don't make it, I'll just shrug it off and go back on my patrol hunting for posts to merit. I've had a small break from that since I ran out of smerit and source merit two days ago.
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March 04, 2019, 02:44:55 AM
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I see I am not on the dt1 list.

Which is okay as I did mention I never wanted to be put on it. But did so because I was asked to go on it.

Did not realize thermyos took me off it.

I remember being asked to go on it. Then getting disgusted with accusations I was manipulating the dt1 system. So I don’t mind staying off it for now.
I see I am ranked #14 which is the highest ranked person not on the dt1 list.

Theymos no longer maintains DT1. The list is generated automatically once a month based on certain criteria described here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.0

IIRC you didn't get in last month because you didn't have a trust list of at least 10 people. Now you do so I'm certain you'll be in DT1 next time it's generated, which should be within the next few days.

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March 04, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
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People can change their trust lists at any time.
True, but the DT1 re-calculation only happens once a month (so far), rather than updating in real time. So if you did become DT1, and then 3 people dropped you from their trust list, you would remain DT1 until the next recalculation.


IIRC you didn't get in last month because you didn't have a trust list of at least 10 people.
Correct. Philipma1957's trust list at the start of February (the time of the last recalculation) only contained 7 users.

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March 04, 2019, 09:49:02 PM
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Why am I not in your list?

I’m trusted by 16 people, 9 of them have over 250 earned Merit. Am I missing something?



you tagged users without referece
you tagged users with fake reference
you tagged users without proofs
its scammer behaviour
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March 04, 2019, 10:04:24 PM
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Why am I not in your list?

I’m trusted by 16 people, 9 of them have over 250 earned Merit. Am I missing something?



you tagged users without referece
you tagged users with fake reference
you tagged users without proofs
its scammer behaviour

I tagged you because you are untrustworthy. You were part of a group of less than trustworthy people conspiring to manipulate DT by making a bogus trust list & distrusting many elite DT1 posters just to suit your own needs (to get your red trust removed).

If you were successful in your coup to remove the likes of Lauda then it would have opened the way for hundreds of previously red tagged scammers to return to their scamming ways.

You’re not trustworthy & I’m not the first to tag you.

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March 04, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 12:52:03 AM by peloso
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I tagged you because you are untrustworthy.


You were part of a group of less than trustworthy people conspiring to manipulate DT
how i can manipulate DT if i not admining this i havent acces for manipulate
so strange fantasy you have

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by making a bogus trust list & distrusting many elite DT1 posters
it was happend after lauda and tman tagged me without proofs
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just to suit your own needs (to get your red trust removed).

If you were successful in your coup to remove the likes of Lauda then it would have opened the way for hundreds of previously red tagged scammers to return to their scamming ways.

You’re not trustworthy & I’m not the first to tag you.

ok but were is proofs? you forgot what red trust was created for
not for opinion
lauda tagged me for reason that i not agree with she's  ooinion
tman tagged me calling me crazy ...
you tagged me for they opinion
but red trust NOT FOR OPINION its only against scammers
so i not scammer

i can remove\edit my trust list at any time and
anyway i just say you abuse trust system
RED trust not for this

P.S
most of stupid users not like my avatar its reason that they not like me
 but i know real reason why you tagged me) you did it just for licking Lauda's ass
so you can add ass licking fogot to your signature
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March 06, 2019, 10:41:10 AM
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Update with yesterday's new list

THE NEW DT1 LIST 06/03/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS
theymos35BPIP46
LoyceV459836BPIP42
hilariousandco164822BPIP38
suchmoon234771BPIP38
Vod30747BPIP35
The Pharmacist487418BPIP31
qwk24140BPIP26
DarkStar_507936BPIP24
Mitchell113670BPIP24
actmyname465017BPIP22
gmaxwell11425BPIP22
minerjones346731BPIP21
Hhampuz881377BPIP20
owlcatz313016BPIP20
Cyrus78147BPIP19
Lauda101872BPIP19
coinlocket$1339716BPIP17
ICOEthics2204241BPIP17
xtraelv897509BPIP17
krogothmanhattan1000199BPIP16
mprep51173BPIP16
TMAN98986BPIP16
Lesbian Cow206143BPIP15
Welsh84521BPIP14
achow101290195BPIP13
monkeynuts81962BPIP13
Coolcryptovator1980983BPIP12
philipma195764507BPIP12
Alex_Sr1762404BPIP11
cryptodevil224980BPIP11
Lafu805820BPIP11
TheNewAnon135246153656BPIP11
yahoo62278355846BPIP11
yogg140827BPIP11
iasenko1291828BPIP10
asche1580039BPIP9
o_e_l_e_o1188543BPIP9
tmfp351569BPIP9
vizique120837BPIP9
BitcoinPenny352429BPIP8
SebastianJu18640BPIP8
bones261452769BPIP7
ezeminer396526BPIP7
Jet Cash698159BPIP7
Veleor1177936BPIP7
DdmrDdmr1582324BPIP7
hybridsole158444BPIP6
taikuri131855828BPIP6
1miau2143453BPIP5
bill gator370611BPIP5
chimk1202061BPIP5
Gunthar817682BPIP5
Halab1053119BPIP4
LFC_Bitcoin379487BPIP4
MaoChao410541BPIP4
LeGaulois507856BPIP3
phantastisch18312BPIP3
sapta347141BPIP3
theyoungmillionaire1180530BPIP3
bL4nkcode765632BPIP2
Dabs54791BPIP2
dbshck153634BPIP1
OgNasty18321BPIP1
TheFuzzStone679341BPIP-1
WhiteManWhite485285BPIP-1
TECSHARE15728BPIP-2
zazarb369212BPIP-3
HostFat203BPIP-5


THE REMOVED DT1 LIST 06/03/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS PREVIOUS UPDATE
Blazed134378BPIP19
greenplastic160943BPIP9
EcuaMobi169515BPIP5
JohnUser319562BPIP1

THE NEW MEMBERS OF DT1 LIST 06/03/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS
minerjones346731BPIP21
philipma195764507BPIP12
bones261452769BPIP7
ezeminer396526BPIP7
Veleor1177936BPIP7
DdmrDdmr1582324BPIP7
hybridsole158444BPIP6
1miau2143453BPIP5
chimk1202061BPIP5
LFC_Bitcoin379487BPIP4
MaoChao410541BPIP4
bL4nkcode765632BPIP2
dbshck153634BPIP1

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March 07, 2019, 06:45:28 AM
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Update with yesterday's new list

This is pretty different than what is in here. Maybe something changed between today and yesterday.

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March 07, 2019, 09:44:40 AM
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Update with yesterday's new list

This is pretty different than what is in here. Maybe something changed between today and yesterday.

That page should be updated in real time so if anything change after the update will be different from the sheet.

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March 07, 2019, 08:11:54 PM
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coinlocket$ - what order do you list them in?   Not reg date, not alphabetically...
It looks like it's ordered by number of inclusions, just like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview

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March 07, 2019, 08:15:39 PM
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coinlocket$ - what order do you list them in?   Not reg date, not alphabetically...
It looks like it's ordered by number of inclusions, just like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview

yeah saw that, deleted my post lol

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April 04, 2019, 12:51:05 PM
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New month, new list. Congratulations to the new members of the club.
Nobody has been removed this month. We have 2 comebacks and 9 new people here.
We now have 80 DT1.

NEW LIST OF DT1 04/04/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS
theymos35BPIP49
LoyceV459836BPIP45
hilariousandco164822BPIP41
suchmoon234771BPIP41
Vod30747BPIP37
The Pharmacist487418BPIP34
Hhampuz881377BPIP29
minerjones346731BPIP29
qwk24140BPIP29
DarkStar_507936BPIP28
Mitchell113670BPIP28
actmyname465017BPIP25
gmaxwell11425BPIP25
Lauda101872BPIP23
owlcatz313016BPIP23
Cyrus78147BPIP22
krogothmanhattan1000199BPIP22
coinlocket$1339716BPIP21
ICOEthics2204241BPIP21
xtraelv897509BPIP20
Lesbian Cow206143BPIP19
TMAN98986BPIP18
mprep51173BPIP17
yogg140827BPIP17
greenplastic160943BPIP16
achow101290195BPIP15
Coolcryptovator1980983BPIP15
cryptodevil224980BPIP15
monkeynuts81962BPIP15
philipma195764507BPIP15
Welsh84521BPIP15
o_e_l_e_o1188543BPIP14
iasenko1291828BPIP13
Lafu805820BPIP13
TheNewAnon135246153656BPIP13
Alex_Sr1762404BPIP12
BitcoinPenny352429BPIP12
tmfp351569BPIP12
yahoo62278355846BPIP12
vizique120837BPIP11
asche1580039BPIP10
bones261452769BPIP10
ezeminer396526BPIP9
Halab1053119BPIP9
hybridsole158444BPIP9
Jet Cash698159BPIP9
bill gator370611BPIP8
DdmrDdmr1582324BPIP8
Veleor1177936BPIP8
1miau2143453BPIP7
SebastianJu18640BPIP7
taikuri131855828BPIP7
Kryptowerk949248BPIP6
LFC_Bitcoin379487BPIP6
Avirunes175302BPIP5
chimk1202061BPIP5
EcuaMobi169515BPIP6
Foxpup55384BPIP5
Gunthar817682BPIP5
LeGaulois507856BPIP5
Ticked129764BPIP5
theyoungmillionaire1180530BPIP5
Dabs54791BPIP4
MaoChao410541BPIP4
phantastisch18312BPIP4
sapta347141BPIP4
malevolent23092BPIP3
bL4nkcode765632BPIP2
dbshck153634BPIP2
nutildah317618BPIP2
Hellmouth421776636BPIP2
Anduck31931BPIP1
willi9974216582BPIP1
Rmcdermott927289011BPIP0
TheFuzzStone679341BPIP0
OgNasty18321BPIP-1
WhiteManWhite485285BPIP-1
zazarb369212BPIP-3
TECSHARE15728BPIP-4
HostFat203BPIP-8


RIMOVED DT1 04/04/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS PREVIOUS UPDATE
NONENONENONENONE

COMEBACKS ON DT1 04/04/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS
greenplastic160943BPIP16
EcuaMobi169515BPIP6

1ST TIME ON DT1 04/04/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS
Kryptowerk949248BPIP6
Avirunes175302BPIP5
Foxpup55384BPIP5
Ticked129764BPIP5
malevolent23092BPIP3
nutildah317618BPIP2
Hellmouth421776636BPIP2
Anduck31931BPIP1
willi9974216582BPIP1

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Last edit: May 04, 2019, 01:00:30 PM by coinlocket$
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New month, new list up to 88 DT1!

NEW LIST DT1 04/05/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS
theymos35BPIP49
LoyceV459836BPIP48
suchmoon234771BPIP44
hilariousandco164822BPIP42
Hhampuz881377BPIP39
Vod30747BPIP35
The Pharmacist487418BPIP34
minerjones346731BPIP33
Mitchell113670BPIP33
qwk24140BPIP31
DarkStar_507936BPIP27
gmaxwell11425BPIP26
owlcatz313016BPIP26
actmyname465017BPIP25
krogothmanhattan1000199BPIP25
Lauda101872BPIP24
coinlocket$1339716BPIP23
ICOEthics2204241BPIP23
LesbianCow206143BPIP23
Cyrus78147BPIP22
monkeynuts81962BPIP21
TMAN98986BPIP21
xtraelv897509BPIP21
greenplastic160943BPIP20
yogg140827BPIP20
mprep51173BPIP19
philipma195764507BPIP19
BitcoinPenny352429BPIP17
cryptodevil224980BPIP17
o_e_l_e_o1188543BPIP17
Lafu805820BPIP16
tmfp351569BPIP16
Welsh84521BPIP16
achow101290195BPIP15
Coolcryptovator1980983BPIP15
iasenko1291828BPIP15
TheNewAnon135246153656BPIP15
hybridsole158444BPIP14
vizique120837BPIP14
Alex_Sr1762404BPIP13
ezeminer396526BPIP13
yahoo62278355846BPIP13
anonymousminer1668017BPIP13
bones261452769BPIP12
asche1580039BPIP11
DdmrDdmr1582324BPIP11
Halab1053119BPIP11
buckrogers189967BPIP10
Jet Cash698159BPIP10
SebastianJu18640BPIP10
Avirunes175302BPIP9
Foxpup55384BPIP9
polymerbit811213BPIP9
Veleor1177936BPIP9
Anduck31931BPIP8
bill gator370611BPIP8
LFC_Bitcoin379487BPIP8
taikuri131855828BPIP8
Kryptowerk949248BPIP8
morvillz7z1825672BPIP8
1miau2143453BPIP7
chimk1202061BPIP7
dazedfool327499BPIP7
EcuaMobi169515BPIP7
LeGaulois507856BPIP7
Ticked129764BPIP7
nutildah317618BPIP6
theyoungmillionaire1180530BPIP6
MaoChao410541BPIP5
sapta347141BPIP5
Dabs54791BPIP4
dbshck153634BPIP4
malevolent23092BPIP4
phantastisch18312BPIP4
bL4nkcode765632BPIP3
teeGUMES307884BPIP3
hedgy73162384BPIP2
JohnUser319562BPIP1
kenzawak1082600BPIP1
lovesmayfamilis1982152BPIP1
TheFuzzStone679341BPIP1
WhiteManWhite485285BPIP1
OgNasty18321BPIP0
roycilik1051955BPIP0
zazarb369212BPIP-2
willi9974216582BPIP-3
TECSHARE15728BPIP-4
HostFat203BPIP-7


REMOVED DT1 04/05/2019

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PROFILEID NUMBER° BPIPNUMBER OF TRUSTS PREVIOUS UPDATE
Gunthar817682BPIP5
Hellmouth421776636BPIP2
Rmcdermott927289011BPIP0

COMEBACKS AND NEW DT1 04/05/2019

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anonymousminer1668017BPIP13
buckrogers189967BPIP10
polymerbit811213BPIP9
morvillz7z1825672BPIP8
dazedfool327499BPIP7
teeGUMES307884BPIP3
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lovesmayfamilis1982152BPIP1
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Pretty nuts. Honestly I think the number should be capped at 100 total. I don't care if I'm on it or not, but we cant have everybody on the forum being DT.

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Pretty nuts. Honestly I think the number should be capped at 100 total. I don't care if I'm on it or not, but we cant have everybody on the forum being DT.
Agreed. It is becoming unwieldy, and with every update and bunch of brand new inappropriate accounts make their way on to DT2 as well. I'm sure theymos previously said that if DT1 reached >100 users, then each month a random selection of 100 users would be picked from the pool. I'm not sure that's the best option, as you run the risk of scammers losing their warning if all their tags suddenly moved to "untrusted". As I said at the initiation of this new system, I think the requirements are too lax - 10 votes from users with 10+ merit is too easy to achieve. Either the number of votes or the required merit (preferably both) should be increased. And as I mentioned in another thread, there should be a merit and not-inactive requirement for DT2, same as there is for DT1.

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May 04, 2019, 04:18:17 PM
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Pretty nuts. Honestly I think the number should be capped at 100 total. I don't care if I'm on it or not, but we cant have everybody on the forum being DT.
Agreed. It is becoming unwieldy, and with every update and bunch of brand new inappropriate accounts make their way on to DT2 as well. I'm sure theymos previously said that if DT1 reached >100 users, then each month a random selection of 100 users would be picked from the pool. I'm not sure that's the best option, as you run the risk of scammers losing their warning if all their tags suddenly moved to "untrusted". As I said at the initiation of this new system, I think the requirements are too lax - 10 votes from users with 10+ merit is too easy to achieve. Either the number of votes or the required merit (preferably both) should be increased. And as I mentioned in another thread, there should be a merit and not-inactive requirement for DT2, same as there is for DT1.

Maybe 10+ votes from posters with 10+ Merit’s is OK if you make 5+ inclusions from fellow DT1 Members a necessity too.
If you are included by 5+ DT1 Members I think that’s a good reflection on if you’re trustworthy.

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May 04, 2019, 04:50:12 PM
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we cant have everybody on the forum being DT.
Ehhh....I don't think the number of DT1 members right now is that bad, and by the looks of it there isn't anyone in it that raise red flags in my mind.  It's the number of DT2 members that concerns me, and DT1's need to really keep solid trust lists so as not to give power to members who might abuse it (or who don't deserve it).

And as I mentioned in another thread, there should be a merit and not-inactive requirement for DT2, same as there is for DT1.
Sounds like a good idea to me.

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May 04, 2019, 06:36:54 PM
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Maybe 10+ votes from posters with 10+ Merit’s is OK if you make 5+ inclusions from fellow DT1 Members a necessity too.
If you are included by 5+ DT1 Members I think that’s a good reflection on if you’re trustworthy.
This makes the DT1 list a bit too centralized for my liking. If you need a minimum of a net positive of 5 DT1 inclusions rather than the current equal to or greater than 0, then a small number of DT1 members will effectively be allowed to choose the other DT1 members. It could also result in, for example, a very trustworthy user from a local board being excluded from DT1 despite having many inclusions from their local board, simply because the majority of DT1 users don't frequent that specific board and therefore don't interact with said user. I would rather it stays in the hands of the community, but just have somewhat higher requirements.

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Maybe 10+ votes from posters with 10+ Merit’s is OK if you make 5+ inclusions from fellow DT1 Members a necessity too.
If you are included by 5+ DT1 Members I think that’s a good reflection on if you’re trustworthy.
This makes the DT1 list a bit too centralized for my liking. If you need a minimum of a net positive of 5 DT1 inclusions rather than the current equal to or greater than 0, then a small number of DT1 members will effectively be allowed to choose the other DT1 members. It could also result in, for example, a very trustworthy user from a local board being excluded from DT1 despite having many inclusions from their local board, simply because the majority of DT1 users don't frequent that specific board and therefore don't interact with said user. I would rather it stays in the hands of the community, but just have somewhat higher requirements.

I personally think the 10 merits per vote isn’t enough, raise it to 25 or 50 and I’m sure the lists will be vastly different, 25 merits isn’t hard and if you can’t earn that why on earth are they having any sway on the forum ?

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