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November 30, 2018, 12:41:42 AM
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No waiting, you say. I'm waiting more than 4 months since the last payment Smiley.
Dude, I didn't even know the Yobit campaign was still runnning!  I have sigs blocked, but I have noticed your personal message and I think I once asked you if you were still in the campaign but don't recall if I got a reply.  I could have imagined that anyway, or it could have been someone else.

And I think you confused Secondstrade with Bitmixer. Bitmixer was automated campaign, not Secondstrade and they a lot of shitposters in their campaign, until they decided to hire Lauda. Secondstrade campaign wasn't that bad.
I didn't say Secondstrade was automated, just that it was not managed by an outside campaign manager that they hired but the Secondstrade.com account on bitcointalk itself.


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November 30, 2018, 05:07:55 AM
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Any kind of reputation or trust system introduces a power structure, thus inherently making people unequal. In the forum's case, you'd be talking about Staff, DT and/or users who just have a high trust rating. This is a crucial part of pretty mcuh every society, relax.

And boy, I'd really love to hear from more of the campaign participants themselves.  Some have spoken up, but most have not and I can't imagine that it's because they don't have an opinion on the matter.
There's really no need to do this. There's a very good reason why they aren't complaining, i.e. they are not very good posters and need the campaign for its income. If they were certain that they could strike a similar deal elsewhere, and had integrity, they'd be more willing to speak up.

And I think you confused Secondstrade with Bitmixer. Bitmixer was automated campaign, not Secondstrade and they a lot of shitposters in their campaign, until they decided to hire Lauda. Secondstrade campaign wasn't that bad.
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November 30, 2018, 01:33:50 PM
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And I think you confused Secondstrade with Bitmixer. Bitmixer was automated campaign, not Secondstrade and they a lot of shitposters in their campaign, until they decided to hire Lauda. Secondstrade campaign wasn't that bad.
Secondstrade was the worst campaign as far as I remember then yobit. Bitmixer wasn't until people rejected from other campaign joined it and with the takedown of yobit and secondstrade spammers, bitmixer became one of the worst until lauda strikes back. Good old days yeah.


Personally, i don't mind waiting for a year because I am pretty sure I will get paid whether by lutpin or lightlord (will they ruin their reputation for some moneh?) and I am basically holding my BiTCents. And yeah most likely i will not be accepted by almost all campaigns because i am a hyperactive member obviously! For the other participants I don't know...

 
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November 30, 2018, 11:12:18 PM
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This thread is really funny. Been in his campaign for over 1.5 years and there was never a single delay in the payments. Has anybody ever considered that the owners of the campaign could equally be at the fault by not sending payments to him on time? Just going around tagging a respected member without solid proofs is not needed to be honest. Like you can consider Crypto-games.net campaign managed by him and there wasn't any delay till date?


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December 01, 2018, 05:17:57 AM
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Being 6 weeks late in paying someone, especially with no communication should be a massive red flag and it would be prudent to not trust him with additional money until at least this gets resolved, possibly longer depending on the circumstances the money is paid, assuming it eventually gets paid.

He has been trusted with a lot of money in the past but you don’t know his financial situation now. You also don’t know if he has decided that his reputation isn’t worth the amount he is holding for others.

I would avoid doing business with him until this is resolved.

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December 02, 2018, 03:21:23 PM
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This thread is really funny. Been in his campaign for over 1.5 years and there was never a single delay in the payments. Has anybody ever considered that the owners of the campaign could equally be at the fault by not sending payments to him on time? Just going around tagging a respected member without solid proofs is not needed to be honest. Like you can consider Crypto-games.net campaign managed by him and there wasn't any delay till date?

You don't need to prove anything if you want to tag someone on this forum. Trust is based on your own personal beliefs, and if you feel mistreated by someone you can leave feedback. It's also not permanent. It can serve as a reminder for that person that someone has a problem with him. When the problem gets solved, the trust will change to neutral or positive.

The way I see it, Lutpin was online and did not explain the delay. If he made things clear and communicated with campaign members, there wouldn't be an issue to talk about here.

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December 06, 2018, 12:12:42 PM
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This thread is really funny. Been in his campaign for over 1.5 years and there was never a single delay in the payments. Has anybody ever considered that the owners of the campaign could equally be at the fault by not sending payments to him on time? Just going around tagging a respected member without solid proofs is not needed to be honest. Like you can consider Crypto-games.net campaign managed by him and there wasn't any delay till date?

That's not exactly true, see my reply on this other thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5074962.msg48486945#msg48486945

Look, I personally trust Lutpin because he has given me no reason to distrust him.

That doesn't mean he can't make mistakes though. If I was a member of the Bitblender campaign, I probably would have been somewhat pissed if payments were delayed for such a long time.
In the end it's the campaign manager's responsibility to communicate these sorts of issues to the participants.

Now, I do want to add that aside from this issue, he has a great track record.
Mistakes like these can be forgiven in my opinion. He did give an update eventually & we don't know how much of this was due to Bitblender.

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December 06, 2018, 01:10:23 PM
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Now, I do want to add that aside from this issue, he has a great track record.
Mistakes like these can be forgiven in my opinion. He did give an update eventually & we don't know how much of this was due to Bitblender.
He already gave an update to bitblender campaign too about transferring the campaign to new manager.So soon most of the campaigns managed by Lutpin will be taken over by some new manager in few days (I hope).

He had good reputation but don't know still why he didn't gave an update why there is such delay in the payment processing. Huh Which already killed his reputation.

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December 06, 2018, 01:11:09 PM
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This thread is really funny. Been in his campaign for over 1.5 years and there was never a single delay in the payments. Has anybody ever considered that the owners of the campaign could equally be at the fault by not sending payments to him on time? Just going around tagging a respected member without solid proofs is not needed to be honest. Like you can consider Crypto-games.net campaign managed by him and there wasn't any delay till date?

From what I know the funds are in Lutpin escrow so no not really.

And it doesn't change the fact that he might consider at least giving some news in the 6 weeks of unpaid campaign...

But the thread wasn't to say Lutpin is a good or a bad manager, just that you don't need to talk to him like he's some kind of noblebirth that's all.

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December 07, 2018, 10:08:59 PM
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From what I know the funds are in Lutpin escrow so no not really.

And it doesn't change the fact that he might consider at least giving some news in the 6 weeks of unpaid campaign...

But the thread wasn't to say Lutpin is a good or a bad manager, just that you don't need to talk to him like he's some kind of noblebirth that's all.
"noblebirth" Is that even a word? Yes, the thread is not to judge if Lutpin is a good or a bad manager because we all know he's exceptionally good at managing the campaigns. It's just the DT system which needs a fix.


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Let me bump this thread, becuse i also would like to ask Lutpin in public, about his escrow.

I want to point out, that I am not accusing him of anything, but it seems to me, that he should clarify this situation. (difficult situation)

The case refer to the Ebitz signature campaign : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682519.0

Where Lutpin escrowed 4 BTC : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682519.msg16896804#msg16896804

Ebitz project turn in to a scam.

It happened in November 2016, payment for the campaign was made - actually I don't know from which funds, because Lutpin still hold whole 4 BTC:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/13GZLCEmeueHPxwGUMH3eYSRASs5di5Xfx

There were different ideas about what to do with these funds, but it seems that the decision has not been taken up yet.
It is possible that he just forgot about it, but I think that it is time to decide what to do with these funds.
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January 14, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
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Let me bump this thread, becuse i also would like to ask Lutpin in public, about his escrow.

I want to point out, that I am not accusing him of anything, but it seems to me, that he should clarify this situation. (difficult situation)

The case refer to the Ebitz signature campaign : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682519.0

Where Lutpin escrowed 4 BTC : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682519.msg16896804#msg16896804

Ebitz project turn in to a scam.

It happened in November 2016, payment for the campaign was made - actually I don't know from which funds, because Lutpin still hold whole 4 BTC:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/13GZLCEmeueHPxwGUMH3eYSRASs5di5Xfx

There were different ideas about what to do with these funds, but it seems that the decision has not been taken up yet.
It is possible that he just forgot about it, but I think that it is time to decide what to do with these funds.
Why exactly do you think you are entitled to request Lutpin to do anything about this? Whatever he decides, someone will complain about it. Therefore it is best to not do anything.

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January 14, 2019, 05:28:07 PM
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It happened in November 2016, payment for the campaign was made - actually I don't know from which funds, because Lutpin still hold whole 4 BTC:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/13GZLCEmeueHPxwGUMH3eYSRASs5di5Xfx

Lutpin paid out 0.82BTC in this transaction.

Why exactly do you think you are entitled to request Lutpin to do anything about this? Whatever he decides, someone will complain about it. Therefore it is best to not do anything.

He'll have to do something eventually I would assume. I think that donating it to charity wouldn't raise any complaints, as the only other suggested usage of the remainder was to give it to campaign participants (which obviously didn't happen and won't happen).

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January 14, 2019, 05:31:21 PM
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Let me bump this thread, becuse i also would like to ask Lutpin in public, about his escrow.

I want to point out, that I am not accusing him of anything, but it seems to me, that he should clarify this situation. (difficult situation)

The case refer to the Ebitz signature campaign : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682519.0

Where Lutpin escrowed 4 BTC : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682519.msg16896804#msg16896804

Ebitz project turn in to a scam.

It happened in November 2016, payment for the campaign was made - actually I don't know from which funds, because Lutpin still hold whole 4 BTC:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/13GZLCEmeueHPxwGUMH3eYSRASs5di5Xfx

There were different ideas about what to do with these funds, but it seems that the decision has not been taken up yet.
It is possible that he just forgot about it, but I think that it is time to decide what to do with these funds.
Why exactly do you think you are entitled to request Lutpin to do anything about this? Whatever he decides, someone will complain about it. Therefore it is best to not do anything.

It can also be a solution. However, I think it would be better to give this money to charity.
In my opinion these are community funds, so we should decide together.
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