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January 17, 2019, 11:15:02 AM
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Reference post: Why have I excluded members on my trust list?
Since I can't give an explanation or Reference link with my trust list, I'll keep track here.

Currently excluded
~peloso
A red trusted Merit abuser who's trying a hostile takeover of DT to clear his red trust.

~cryptohunter
Bad judgement, conspiracy nut, and spamming many topics with his "ideas".

~BiPolarBob
Hacked account.

~Gleb Gamow
Several reasons, see his red trust.

~gamerfan
Red trusted user who was included on DT.

~Alex_Sr
Right after being on DT2, he left positive trust to the many users he seems to like, and deleted it after being excluded. Apparently being on DT is more important than leaving accurate ratings. He is "still very inexperienced in matters of trust".
Reminder for myself: review this one somewhere in the future (weeks/months)


~SmartPayMINT
Red trusted user who leaves retaliatory feedback and was included on DT2.

~LoyceValenzuela
Imposter.

~IdiotCoder
Leaves ratings without reference, and left red trust based on a user's religion (reference).

~BetKing.io
Scammed me out of $700 and left 6 users fake retaliation feedback after I opened a scam accusation.

~griffoninvest
Leaves fake red trust to spam hunters after theymos wiped all yobit signatures.

~BillyBurns
Shills hard for a scammer, and leaves fake red trust to people who tagged said scammer.

~Kriptonian1661
Leaves fake red trust.

Currently not excluded because they're not a threat to the system, but I'll exclude them if someone ever includes them again
~mike
A Brand new user who somehow was included in DT.

~game-protect
Loads of red trust.

~BITMIXCOIN.IO
Scammer called out by me.

~John547s3
Scammer called out by me.

~ChangeNOW
Scammer with red trust from me.

~bountyhunters.io
Potential (failed/prevented) exit scam.

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All my threads are now self-moderated to stop signature spam. I will remove all irrelevant posts. If you quote the entire OP, your entry will be deleted.
Once in a while I'll summarize posts and clean up this thread.

Share yours
I encourage everyone to keep track of the reasons behind their own exclusions too.
I don't think it's helpful to create many topics on this, feel free to use 1 post here for yours (including reasons), and I'll link it from the next post.

Static list?
This list isn't static, I'll add, change or remove entries when I think it's needed.

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January 17, 2019, 11:19:49 AM
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Several reasons, see his red trust.

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May I suggest not bloating your trust list with exclusions of scammers or other abandoned (neg. rated accounts) that have near zero chance of ever being excluded? For example BITMIXCOIN.IO, with -256:

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Last edit: January 17, 2019, 12:17:52 PM by LoyceV
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I wonder What happen if all the old guys on the forum show their trust list
It's public data, dumped by theymos once a week.

May I suggest not bloating your trust list with exclusions of scammers or other abandoned (neg. rated accounts) that have near zero chance of ever being excluded? For example BITMIXCOIN.IO, with -256:
My list is "work in progress", but you make a good point. I've removed those from my list, but keep track of the removed entries here.

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January 17, 2019, 12:07:38 PM
Last edit: January 31, 2019, 09:20:47 AM by Timelord2067
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I'll claim a spot on the first page:

Code:
~[BTC]onFIRE
~[btc]onfire1
~~PayPal-Trader~
~1discovery
~4x4et
~98problems
~Abiky
~ACCTseller
~AcoinL.L.C
~ActSeller
~AGLD
~Akka
~Alaki
~Alanay
~Altcoin4life
~applesRyummy
~asche
~bigvern
~BiPolarBob
~Bitcoin-Police
~BitcoinSupremo
~BurHan-Hacker
~captainfuture
~Casper Simian
~Champion Of PvP Humb
~Chevas Regal
~Coinbuddy
~coindetective
~CoinMonster
~crazyivan
~CrazyLoaf
~crazyloaffer
~cryptohunter
~Cyrus
~DarkStar_
~DavidGermany
~DavidSantamaria
~DavidXXXX
~defcon23
~deluxeCITY
~digaran
~Disposition
~e1ghtSpace
~EcuaMobi
~EFS
~Engg.Chaks
~erikalui
~Erkallys
~erundook
~escrow.ms
~exstasie
~extraKrispy
~FriendlyChemist
~game-protect
~Gildarts
~Gleb Gamow
~goose20
~gorgon666
~Hi7
~hilarious*
~hilariousandco
~Humbertin19_
~Humberton19
~iconis999
~jamalaezaz
~jamesmerton
~kano
~KeithBeeCham
~kenzawak
~KingofSwing
~Kolder
~kralle
~Kummerf
~Lauda
~logictense
~lokos1913a
~LuckyYOU
~Lutpin
~marcelus
~MarkMJ
~master-P
~max in montreal
~mexxer
~mexxer-2
~MicroGuy
~miningdude
~Mister k
~mixan
~mjsbuddha
~monbux
~Muhammed Zakir
~needFREElunch
~nulo0b
~omegaflare
~Omegasun
~ONLYfree
~Operatr
~orryde
~Panthers52
~Phinnaeus Gage
~popshot
~ProfMac
~Quickseller
~Robertt
~RodrigoHenrik
~Scam Investigator
~SmartPayMINT
~teamy5892
~Tomatocage
~Tomatocage1
~TrueHari
~usamakhalid961
~V.Lace
~VINSIN
~VonSpass
~Wendigo
~YuTü.Co.in
~Zeroxal
~Zin-Zang

Most are obvious Known Alts (the ring leaders or UID with most to loose) / scammers (Kolder Alaki etc) / trust abuse / account sellers etc. There are 18 who have me on their list (including Lutpin who (until I found out had me on his Negative DT list) I thought was OK), so I have obligingly reciprocated.  QS & TC for self escrowing / TC & QS' alts eg Mexxer - Panthers52 etc / Bruno(s) / Chronic gamblers (Humbertin/DavidXXXX etc) / Butt Hurt TM - the list goes on. I went back through my trust list Red Paint TM and have picked out the names that jumped out at me.

Ten UID's have me as trusted while 18 don't, so I'll never be DT2 much less one, so I'm not really worried about adding a few hundred UID's over the next few weeks.  I think from now on I'll be adding more regularly. (I never really added anyone except for a couple of real noteworthy assholes until this recent DT drama started.)

*edit* I've already had an enquiry via PM about my list, by way of answering, the 18 who don't trust me (or previously didn't trust me but have removed their negative) according to this list https://anduck.net/files/bct_trustlists.txt are:

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         asche
         Casper Simian
         DarkStar_
         defcon23
         EcuaMobi
         erikalui
         Erkallys
         exstasie
         hilariousandco
         iconis999
         kenzawak
         logictense
         Lutpin
         Mister k
         nutildah
         Operatr
         Quickseller
         Tomatocage
         VonSpass
         Zeroxal
         Zin-Zang

Four or five of these I've never crossed paths with and I suspect are alts of some of the other's mexxer-2 *did* have me on their untrusted list and has come on today to remove me with another UID filling their place at to keep the list at 18 not trusting me.

*third edit*

My excluded by these people on the 5th of Jan looked like this:

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    excluded by (14):
         defcon23
         EcuaMobi
         EFS
         erikalui
         Erkallys
         hilariousandco
         iconis999
         Lutpin
         mexxer-2
         Operatr
         Quickseller
         Tomatocage
         VonSpass
         Zeroxal

As you can see EFS and mexxer-2 were on the list seven days earlier, now they have been replaced by Casper Simian, DarkStar_, exstasie, kenzawak, Mister k and Zin-Zang - will have to investigate if they are alts of QS/TC etc

*second edit*

I've added the following for the reasons given:

kano for holding extraordinary amounts of "dust" from their mining operations instead of paying it out manually once in a while. Some dust is over $100 *per user* even at today's rates.

*third edit* List of persons who removed me from their DT list under instruction from various DT manipulators: I haven't added them to my don't trust list.

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List of persons who have removed others from their DT list under instruction from manipulators: (none of whom are on either my trust or not trusted list)

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I wonder What happen if all the old guys on the forum show their trust list
I guess people who are on DT (both DT1 and DT2) - their trust list is already public?

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Since I am new on DT network I don't have excluded list yet. If I am not wrong whoever is not on DT network not necessary to exclude him. Because exclude means I don't want to see his feedback. If he isn't on DT network then automatically his feedback will not visible for me. Correct me if I am wrong.
Or exclude means I don't want to see on DT network if he isn't already on DT.
So I don't think just make your exclusion list bigger if there is not obvious abuse case.


~Alex_Sr
Right after being on DT2, he left positive trust to the many users he seems to like, and deleted it after being excluded. Apparently being on DT is more important than leaving accurate ratings. He is "still very inexperienced in matters of trust".


Regarding Alex_Sr case I already discussed him and I think TMAN also discussed with him. He is very new and he send few positive feedback which is wrong in my eye. So I asked him to delete all the feedback without reference and instruct him to avoid future like this activity. And I recommend him to write on comment as much as possible with reference link on every feedback.
So he refresh his feedback's and it's seems now quite legitimate.

It's depend on you you will delete or not, but I think you can give him second chance. Hope he will not misuse anymore. As far as I know TMAN already add him again after refresh feedback

I have the whole of the Russian section after me, check meta for more fun
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Regarding Alex_Sr case I already discussed him and I think TMAN also discussed with him. He is very new and he send few positive feedback which is wrong in my eye. So I asked him to delete all the feedback without reference and instruct him to avoid future like this activity. And I recommend him to write on comment as much as possible with reference link on every feedback.
So he refresh his feedback's and it's seems now quite legitimate.

He is more on and off than a whores nickers, he is gone again - I have the whole of the Russian section after me, check meta for more fun

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January 17, 2019, 12:43:34 PM
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I wonder What happen if all the old guys on the forum show their trust list
I guess people who are on DT (both DT1 and DT2) - their trust list is already public?

https://anduck.net/files/bct_trustlists.txt All will be reveled.

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You can easily check everyone's trust list by putting the desired username in your trust list and then setting the trust depth to 1 (it shows both inclusions and exclusions).
Don't do this on a live DT1 account please Wink

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^ Haha, right. I didn't think of that.

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You can easily check everyone's trust list by putting the desired username in your trust list and then setting the trust depth to 1 (it shows both inclusions and exclusions).
Don't do this on a live DT1 account please Wink

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Ten UID's have me as trusted while 18 don't...




I have 3 guys who trust me... hahahaha




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January 17, 2019, 02:11:06 PM
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This is a great one. Thanks. I don't know how I missed this. The data seems old. Anyway...

My name appeared 31 times! That's quite a lot  Grin and I see a lot of exclusion for me  Tongue



And the users:
tmfp <=  Roll Eyes
marlboroza <= as expected lol
IconFirm <= who is this? Really LOL
kenzawak <= no clue about this user
kirito1614 <= who is this again LOL I see he excluded hilariousetc too LOL
o_e_l_e_o <=  Tongue

Anyway these are the people are in my trust included list:
Code:
satoshi
theymos
OgNasty
Vod
Anduck
mprep
KWH
Cyrus
Welsh
TMAN
Lauda
DefaultTrust
Blazed
suchmoon
minerjones
yahoo62278
zazarb
LoyceV
actmyname
The Pharmacist
DarkStar_
Jet Cash
Hhampuz
krogothmanhattan
iasenko
DdmrDdmr
shahzadafzal

Can I add the exclusion list? Is it ok for a non-DT?

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Can I add the exclusion list? Is it ok for a non-DT?
DT or not doesn't matter, as that often changes. But this topic is for exclusions, or at least good reasoning with each name.

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January 17, 2019, 04:16:22 PM
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As you can see EFS and mexxer-2 were on the list seven days earlier, now they have been replaced by Casper Simian, DarkStar_, exstasie, kenzawak, Mister k and Zin-Zang - will have to investigate if they are alts of QS/TC etc

Good luck with your investigation! I excluded you because I think you leave negative trust a bit too easily and sometimes based off of a lot of assumptions. Overall you probably do more good than harm, but I don't want to have a lot of innocent people having DT red simply because their registration date lined up or something

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Can I add the exclusion list? Is it ok for a non-DT?
DT or not doesn't matter, as that often changes. But this topic is for exclusions, or at least good reasoning with each name.
Thank you so here I am ....
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Changing my positive feedback to negative. https://i.imgur.com/m4Ixb1A.png (I was wrong)

A community counts on members like hilariousetc and hilariousandco (both same). One of the oldest, one of the most reputed. People believe them and follow them but when they starts acting irresponsible then it harms those same people, truth is the entire community.

I am worried how many forum members are victim of his poor judgements.

Please read the 124th comment in the reference URL.
Reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20190114190741/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.0;all

~xandry: I really has hiccup for this user. I'm just not sure if my hiccup's are true or not. So, I would like to keep him away. No disrespect.

~marlboroza: LOL obviously. I found him numerous time he bring the evidences how he wants. Only judge from one side. He forgets that a coin has another side. Sorry mate.

~digaran: Although I adopted his shorten style for hilariousetc as "Hilary" which I spelled "Hilari" which is led me to... blab blab... LOL. Anyway, I guess he was just a troll. Mentally unstable.

~AdolfinWolf: Not sure what did I do for him but seems like he does not like me. Always finds a way to humiliate me. May be he does the same for others. I just don't know.

~TheUltraElite: Same as AdolfinWolf. I noticed the user feels good when things go wrong from my side. May be he does the same for others too.

~xtraelv: Huh! obviously. I even think the guy planned for everything to get listed in DT network. He built up relationships with the key characters in the forum to get the advantages.

~bigmelons25: Trolls and had issues with me is several times.
~Dig Bicks: Completely troll I even believe it's digaran

That's all in my distrust list.

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You shouldn't set up trust list and send/change trust feedback based on your emotions.

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