Scammed by Sr. Member Luno

[politehalo]

What happened: I sold him 3 Office 2019 Bind keys for $26/key. I went first and gave him the benefit of doubt because he is a Sr. Member. He told me he will pay by Ethereum and will send over the funds ($78) within few minutes. But he just went offline and never came back.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59375

Amount Scammed: $78
Payment Method: Ethereum
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/Gfabl1w
Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

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[shasan]

What happened:: I sold him 3 Office 2019 Bind keys for $26/key. I went first and gave him the benefit of doubt because he is a Sr. Member. He told me he will pay by Ethereum and will send over the funds ($78) within few minutes. But he just went offline and never came back.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59375

Amount Scammed: $78
Payment Method: Ethereum
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/Gfabl1w
Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

It is not a place of making dispute it is a place of making a report against scammer who seems reputed but the person is not legit. But the person you have mentioned already marked as a scammer so there is no need to post more time. Everyone know trading with that person is extreme caution. See on the screenshot: http://prntscr.com/mduc0y

[Soha 1]

Account hacked/sold. Sorry for your loss.

He's been red tagged by DT users, already.

[magneto]

What happened: I sold him 3 Office 2019 Bind keys for $26/key. I went first and gave him the benefit of doubt because he is a Sr. Member. He told me he will pay by Ethereum and will send over the funds ($78) within few minutes. But he just went offline and never came back.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59375

Amount Scammed: $78
Payment Method: Ethereum
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/Gfabl1w
Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

As Soha says, Luno seems to be compromised.

This is why it's good practice to always check the person's reputation before dealing with them. Even though he is a senior member, ranks don't mean much when accounts are able to be traded, and often hacked as well, especially for older accounts.

Escrow should always be used, unless you are willing to take on this type of risk. But using escrow should be able to mitigate a lot of these occurrences. BTW, did he redeem the keys already?

Another open scam accusation against the same guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102033.msg49413064#msg49413064
Suspected hacked account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102065.msg49414774#msg49414774

[The Sceptical Chymist]

But the person you have mentioned already marked as a scammer so there is no need to post more time. Everyone know trading with that person is extreme caution.

Bro, this is exactly what OP should be doing if he got scammed and I'm not sure why you're giving him this advice.  Regardless of whether Luno had been tagged before, this is a new accusation that seems to suggest that he's continuing to scam people.  Yes, it would have been great had OP checked Luno's trust page before dealing with him (or used escrow), but he didn't and has every right to open up a scam accusation here.

OP, did you not see the red trust this guy had?  I'm not rubbing salt in your wounds; I'm genuinely curious if you'd seen it beforehand. 

[shasan]

But the person you have mentioned already marked as a scammer so there is no need to post more time. Everyone know trading with that person is extreme caution.

Bro, this is exactly what OP should be doing if he got scammed and I'm not sure why you're giving him this advice.  Regardless of whether Luno had been tagged before, this is a new accusation that seems to suggest that he's continuing to scam people.  Yes, it would have been great had OP checked Luno's trust page before dealing with him (or used escrow), but he didn't and has every right to open up a scam accusation here.

Okay, I told as the person already got 5 negative trusts. We can't recover anything by creating scam accusation. And the negative trust stands for not to trade with the person whom profile we see "trade with extreme caution". But Op has traded with that person. Scammer always scammer but a legit person might be a scammer. I thought 5 negative trust where there is no positive trust might be the same for 10/12 negative trust.

Anyway, it is right that creating more accusation if they really scammed then we will be able to know that the person still scamming. Where there is required to check too much thing before making a deal who has no feedback or has positive feedback as they might be a scammer. But op traded with the person who already marked as a scammer.

so there is no need to post more time

I just cut the line to encourage to create more scam accusation against scammer if they have been scammed by a proven scammer.

[yohananaomi]

What happened: I sold him 3 Office 2019 Bind keys for $26/key. I went first and gave him the benefit of doubt because he is a Sr. Member. He told me he will pay by Ethereum and will send over the funds ($78) within few minutes. But he just went offline and never came back.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59375

Amount Scammed: $78
Payment Method: Ethereum
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/Gfabl1w
Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

It seems like you are very good and believe someone to transact only because of the level of an account on BTT, not because you know him or indeed your own friend. but this incident happened. then maybe don't do something like this again, this is enough as learning.
I really hope that hopefully it can be resolved in the future, but your information really helps me to know and become learning.
I will wait for further information about this from you.

[The Cryptovator]

Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

Did you followed DT advise ? Sorry for your loss, but there was Warning: Trade with extreme caution!  . I don't think you noticed or you was not logged in on forum. DT advised don't deal with him, if you visit his red tag. I tagged him on 2019-01-25, we can't do anything without tag him. Please check trust page always when you are going to deal with someone. Yout case isn't going to resolve cause user never worried about red tag.

[TalkStar]

Everyone just think that if someone doing fraudlent works here DTs are here to stop them. Yeah its true they are here but if we don't care about their warning than its worthless.

Luno's account hacked by someone and its already announced on the forum earlier. You didn't bother to read that carefully.

[timerland]

Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

Did you followed DT advise ? Sorry for your loss, but there was Warning: Trade with extreme caution!  . I don't you noticed or you was not logged in on forum. DT advised don't deal with him, if you visit his red tag.

Exactly, I'm wondering that too.

Luno had already been tagged as a stolen account back in 25th, while chat logs seem to indicate that OP got scammed on the 28th. So based on the available information, OP should have been able to see the negative trust that have been posted on the profile of the hacked account.

What happened: I sold him 3 Office 2019 Bind keys for $26/key. I went first and gave him the benefit of doubt because he is a Sr. Member. He told me he will pay by Ethereum and will send over the funds ($78) within few minutes. But he just went offline and never came back.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59375

Amount Scammed: $78
Payment Method: Ethereum
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/Gfabl1w
Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

As others have said, ranks (or even reputation, for that matter) can't be trusted if you can't be sure or verify that the account is still in the hands of the original owner. You're not going to be able to get your money back, unfortunately, unless the scammer comes back and pays you which is extremely unlikely.

Is there any way for you to see when/who used the keys?

[mikeywith]

do you have any proof that the chat log belongs to the accused user? i have no doubt that Luno's account is hacked/sold , but this does not mean a proof of new accusation is not needed.

[politehalo]

OP, did you not see the red trust this guy had?  I'm not rubbing salt in your wounds; I'm genuinely curious if you'd seen it beforehand. 

To all people saying that I should have checked the negative trust before dealing with him - I added him on Skype way before 25th when there was no trust feedback on Luno's account back then. I obviously gave him the benefit of doubt and I agree it was my fault.

[Bitinity]

OP, did you not see the red trust this guy had?  I'm not rubbing salt in your wounds; I'm genuinely curious if you'd seen it beforehand. 

To all people saying that I should have checked the negative trust before dealing with him - I added him on Skype way before 25th when there was no trust feedback on Luno's account back then. I obviously gave him the benefit of doubt and I agree it was my fault.

Lesson learned for you, don't trust someone just because of his rank in this forum. Check the history of the one you are going to deal with first, if there are some good trading history then you can go first but it is still recommended to use an escrow for a better deal. Sorry for what you lose, but nothing you can do now.