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May 21, 2019, 02:03:21 PM
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@Sutters: I can completely understand your criticism of football, and for the most part I do agree. But I'm a football person myself. Been on almost every side of the game. Played it from a young age, went to the matches in my hometown. My own team was a typical blue-collar club from southeast Asia: mostly state-owned, sponsors are a local sportswear shop, you know where all the players come from. Half of them smoked.

They played many of our matches under heavy armed police escorts. We saw the politics, felts the players represent our state and club, and all the frustrations of our working dads and our selves vented on match nights. The football was terrible, the pitches were worse, the fans were probably of no better people than the ones you described. My earliest memories of football were the smell of piss, sweat, cheap liquor, cheap burgers, steamed nuts and clove cigarettes all rolled in one. It was rude, it was dirty, it was unpleasant... but even as a kid it was incredible. When your team won, when we made comebacks... people would pick me up and let me see above the heads. I recall a cup final in 1999 when we made it all the way to the capital. We lost to a rich team, got totally outplayed, lost 2-1, but it was so strange to see their small group of supporters all polite and seated... it was as if they weren't enjoying the game!

I've also managed futsal comps, played in a semi-pro league, and looked for sponsors for my team, so I see all the sides and yeah the commercial aspects are the shits. How kids could afford seeing games I don't know. Those tickets? Costs to watch a club play? I know I'm so privileged I could see Liverpool once in Anfield, and I coughed up so much for it I know my friends back home could never afford in a lifetime. But I know if any of them could, like we did in 1999, we'd borrow through our nose to watch our team play in 1 final, win or lose. Because we never won it in our lifetimes. Because the atmosphere sears itself into our memory. BEcause, you know, sometimes life was life and football was some kind of magic. Klopp knows it. Poch finally felt it. They all understand, I'm sure you all do too. Because we just love football =)

I agree with you. Sometimes it feels so not worth it And I'm watching Madrid with some kids in a quiet polite home...

...but that roar. That trembling of the ground beneath you when the 12th man is behind you. F*ck me.

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I haven’t yet, no Sad

People are trying to charge £3,000 per ticket & I need two. I’m not willing to pay that much. I will pay £1500 each, maybe £2,000 each maximum.

I still have two guys trying to find tickets for me (they’re ticket touts - google that if you don’t understand the English bro).

I’m hopeful of getting two but it’s not guaranteed. If I can’t get tickets I will watch on big screens in Madrid with our fans. I already have flights & 3 days in a hotel in Madrid centre.

Best of luck mate, you are going to need it to score that tickets. Maybe you can get them last minute when somebody is forced to not come.

It always pisses me of when I see empty seats in best rows for events which are sold out and it happens very often. I guess some of those people that get sponsored tickets can't be even bothered to sell if they are not coming. Probably few thousands pounds means nothing to them.

Exactly correct.

UEFA are scum. The stadium holds about 65,000. LFC & Spurs get 16,000 each. The rest goes to sponsors & UEFA partners. It’s a joke tbh.
I disagree with what you said cause I'm sure not the price per ticket was actually that £3000 as you said. Is the transport fares or plane ticket fee included?
Are you trying to book the ticket through an agent which will definitely include their own fee plus VAT charges?

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May 21, 2019, 04:19:43 PM
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I haven’t yet, no Sad

People are trying to charge £3,000 per ticket & I need two. I’m not willing to pay that much. I will pay £1500 each, maybe £2,000 each maximum.

I still have two guys trying to find tickets for me (they’re ticket touts - google that if you don’t understand the English bro).

I’m hopeful of getting two but it’s not guaranteed. If I can’t get tickets I will watch on big screens in Madrid with our fans. I already have flights & 3 days in a hotel in Madrid centre.

Best of luck mate, you are going to need it to score that tickets. Maybe you can get them last minute when somebody is forced to not come.

It always pisses me of when I see empty seats in best rows for events which are sold out and it happens very often. I guess some of those people that get sponsored tickets can't be even bothered to sell if they are not coming. Probably few thousands pounds means nothing to them.

Exactly correct.

UEFA are scum. The stadium holds about 65,000. LFC & Spurs get 16,000 each. The rest goes to sponsors & UEFA partners. It’s a joke tbh.
I disagree with what you said cause I'm sure not the price per ticket was actually that £3000 as you said. Is the transport fares or plane ticket fee included?
Are you trying to book the ticket through an agent which will definitely include their own fee plus VAT charges?

£3000 excluding the hotel and plane fare? Honestly, the price per ticket is too much to spend in watching the UEFA final game in Madrid and if I have such fund I will rather invest it in bitcoin till next bullish market which will yield me an awesome profit than watching a 90 minutes game.

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May 21, 2019, 08:14:40 PM
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^^

I heard very good things about Accra, like it is one of the most secure and friendly cities in Africa.
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May 21, 2019, 08:43:45 PM
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^^

I heard very good things about Accra, like it is one of the most secure and friendly cities in Africa.

I'm from Africa, and I have been to Ghana once, Early last year. I can vouch for their hospitality and security.


They are indeed very welcoming, I spent a few days in Accra, It was a very beautiful city and I also visited a town called Tamale too, they have quite a number of ancient history too, I remember there was a mosque there which was said to be an ancient one, I can't remember how old but It was very old.

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May 21, 2019, 09:27:43 PM
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I haven’t yet, no Sad

People are trying to charge £3,000 per ticket & I need two. I’m not willing to pay that much. I will pay £1500 each, maybe £2,000 each maximum.

I still have two guys trying to find tickets for me (they’re ticket touts - google that if you don’t understand the English bro).

I’m hopeful of getting two but it’s not guaranteed. If I can’t get tickets I will watch on big screens in Madrid with our fans. I already have flights & 3 days in a hotel in Madrid centre.

Best of luck mate, you are going to need it to score that tickets. Maybe you can get them last minute when somebody is forced to not come.

It always pisses me of when I see empty seats in best rows for events which are sold out and it happens very often. I guess some of those people that get sponsored tickets can't be even bothered to sell if they are not coming. Probably few thousands pounds means nothing to them.

Exactly correct.

UEFA are scum. The stadium holds about 65,000. LFC & Spurs get 16,000 each. The rest goes to sponsors & UEFA partners. It’s a joke tbh.
I disagree with what you said cause I'm sure not the price per ticket was actually that £3000 as you said. Is the transport fares or plane ticket fee included?
Are you trying to book the ticket through an agent which will definitely include their own fee plus VAT charges?

£3000 excluding the hotel and plane fare? Honestly, the price per ticket is too much to spend in watching the UEFA final game in Madrid and if I have such fund I will rather invest it in bitcoin till next bullish market which will yield me an awesome profit than watching a 90 minutes game.
That's probably what most of us would do in this case even though I would love to go and watch a Champions League final in the stadium. Anyway, I'm good with watching the match on TV along with my friends rather than saving money for a few weeks/months just to go on a stadium and watch a soccer match. I'm not that type of person.
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May 21, 2019, 10:13:11 PM
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...but that roar. That trembling of the ground beneath you when the 12th man is behind you. F*ck me.

Very nicely put. Not just the quoted part but the whole post. I just quoted this small part because if you haven't felt that kind of thing at least once in a life you don't know what you are missing. You can't really compare it with anything else. I agree the prices for Madrid final are way too much for us "normal" people but there are other great games across Europe for which you can find tickets much cheaper and you will get a good part of the atmosphere.

I watched few games in Turkey and Greece for beer money and had great time. Their fans/atmosphere are great and tickets are much cheaper. Granted you have to be a bit careful not to end on a wrong part of stands in the local derby but I personally never had any problems. Maybe it helps that I am close to 1.90 and over 100 kg so people sort of avoid me when shoving starts.
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May 22, 2019, 01:16:15 PM
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...but that roar. That trembling of the ground beneath you when the 12th man is behind you. F*ck me.

Very nicely put. Not just the quoted part but the whole post. I just quoted this small part because if you haven't felt that kind of thing at least once in a life you don't know what you are missing. You can't really compare it with anything else. I agree the prices for Madrid final are way too much for us "normal" people but there are other great games across Europe for which you can find tickets much cheaper and you will get a good part of the atmosphere.

I watched few games in Turkey and Greece for beer money and had great time. Their fans/atmosphere are great and tickets are much cheaper. Granted you have to be a bit careful not to end on a wrong part of stands in the local derby but I personally never had any problems. Maybe it helps that I am close to 1.90 and over 100 kg so people sort of avoid me when shoving starts.

Thanks Trofo, hilari, yeah, I know sports is just sports but it really is okay to be a small part of something bigger, it's okay to be a fanboy and it's okay to be a football person (it's also okay not to be!).

And yes, Trofo, you make a great point that you don't always have to fork out ridiculous money to get that atmosphere. I think in all parts of the world it is slightly different. I have enjoyed it in my tiny part of the world, but in Europe also there is a healthy culture and in fact some clubs are much more family than others, some are much more fanatical than others, but every segment usually has a spot in the overall story of the club.

I'm 1.66 and under 50kg so yeah, I'd stay out of your way;)

Anyway, yeah, all that aside... 10 more days to Madrid! Hope our boy LFC found a good price, there must be some Barca fans still holding out...

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I haven't been to a football game in ages partly because of the price but also the atmosphere. I've seen kids crying their eyes out because of all the degeneracy and shouting and swearing and fighting in the stands.  I don't even watch the games in pubs any more. Too many louts smashing pint glasses every time a goal goes the other way. Fully grown men behaving like children. It's embarrassing.

It's all a part of the football environment. I enjoy watching the game in stadiums, as well as in pubs. The people are so passionate about the game and the atmosphere is electrifying. All the swearing and shouting... it just adds excitement to the atmosphere...  It's a different experience when compared to watching the game on TV, with your family or close friends.
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Buy a nice TV set up and stay at home and watch it in glorious 4k instead, Eat all the snacks and drinks you want at about 80% cheaper as well and you don't have to worry about being punched in the face or doused in someone elses beer.
I will watch the match at home anyway. In fact I will be online in here to share the updates with the community. I wish I had this luxury like LFC. Thing is we make choices to make us happy. Happiness matters.

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@Sutters: I can completely understand your criticism of football, and for the most part I do agree. But I'm a football person myself. Been on almost every side of the game. Played it from a young age, went to the matches in my hometown. My own team was a typical blue-collar club from southeast Asia: mostly state-owned, sponsors are a local sportswear shop, you know where all the players come from. Half of them smoked.

They played many of our matches under heavy armed police escorts. We saw the politics, felts the players represent our state and club, and all the frustrations of our working dads and our selves vented on match nights. The football was terrible, the pitches were worse, the fans were probably of no better people than the ones you described. My earliest memories of football were the smell of piss, sweat, cheap liquor, cheap burgers, steamed nuts and clove cigarettes all rolled in one. It was rude, it was dirty, it was unpleasant... but even as a kid it was incredible. When your team won, when we made comebacks... people would pick me up and let me see above the heads. I recall a cup final in 1999 when we made it all the way to the capital. We lost to a rich team, got totally outplayed, lost 2-1, but it was so strange to see their small group of supporters all polite and seated... it was as if they weren't enjoying the game!

I've also managed futsal comps, played in a semi-pro league, and looked for sponsors for my team, so I see all the sides and yeah the commercial aspects are the shits. How kids could afford seeing games I don't know. Those tickets? Costs to watch a club play? I know I'm so privileged I could see Liverpool once in Anfield, and I coughed up so much for it I know my friends back home could never afford in a lifetime. But I know if any of them could, like we did in 1999, we'd borrow through our nose to watch our team play in 1 final, win or lose. Because we never won it in our lifetimes. Because the atmosphere sears itself into our memory. BEcause, you know, sometimes life was life and football was some kind of magic. Klopp knows it. Poch finally felt it. They all understand, I'm sure you all do too. Because we just love football =)

I agree with you. Sometimes it feels so not worth it And I'm watching Madrid with some kids in a quiet polite home...

...but that roar. That trembling of the ground beneath you when the 12th man is behind you. F*ck me.


I was mostly the same. I have both good, great, slightly intimidating and scary memories of going to football matches as a kid and I was obsessed with both playing and watching football as a child and it was my life up into my mid teens, but I lost interest quickly and found more enjoyment in girls and various arts and educational things. The sunday league team I played for actually won a couple of our county leagues. We even had a couple of players that got scouted for some professional youth teams but none of them ever made it past that. Football fanaticism to me is like something you expect most people to grow out of like wrestling, but many seem to get more radical as they get older. Don't get me wrong, I love to watch the big games but I don't really care who wins. I understand the escapism and tribalism, but ultimately to me it's just shallow and hollow behind the surface powered by the cogs of corporations and all they care about is profit and trophies they can boast about to their corporate buddies and the players are their pawns in that game and the fans finance it and I can't see past that now. I don't even really support my 'home' club any more and I just don't think I could ever find passion for them again. It's become like a new age religion for people, or more like a cult or something, but religion is something I also outgrew as I can see past the facade. I guess like religion most people don't want to put too much thought into the realities of it and just go with the flow to make their life a bit more enjoyable or comfortable and there's nothing wrong with that (Unless people start getting violent about it) but it's like once you've had your eyes open you can't really unsee the truth. Maybe I've become cynical in my old age but it just doesn't really mean anything to me any more other than purely entertainment.

I'll still enjoy the game as a spectator but I don't really care who wins though I do like to root for the underdog. I would rather have Liverpool won the league than City but I don't really care who wins the Champions league as long as it's a great game, but the fact that it's two English teams puts a bit of a dampener on it to me as it just makes it like another Premier League game really. I'm edging more towards Liverpool for the win as I like Klopp a lot, but that's basically all it comes down to for me.
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May 23, 2019, 02:42:47 PM
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~snip~
I will watch the match at home anyway. In fact I will be online in here to share the updates with the community. I wish I had this luxury like LFC. Thing is we make choices to make us happy. Happiness matters.
You never dissapoint, and if by any chance I don't manage to watch the live match...am sure am covered and will be here to catch all the action with those timely updates in case am away from my screen.
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Seems a long time between the PL finishing & the CL Final. I saw that Liverpool are preparing for the final with warm weather training in Marbella.

I just don’t see Klopp losing this one. They’ve been 2nd in the PL, runner up to Real last season. This is LFC’s final.

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Read something that EL finals will play with more then half stadium. Seem like England fans is long to travel and on top of that only both team get 6000 tickets.
Shame for football must say, but lets wait and see what will it be.
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With the close of the UCL Final. Of course each club will be ready to appear in the final later. This is the final match that is very much awaited by everyone in the world. And it is very difficult to predict who will dominate the game in the final later. Because both clubs are very great clubs.

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9 days to go...
Read something that EL finals will play with more then half stadium. Seem like England fans is long to travel and on top of that only both team get 6000 tickets.
Shame for football must say, but lets wait and see what will it be.
Azerbaijan. It is not obvious to see many England fans there comparing to UK or Spain based game...but local people will be there in mass though!

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With the close of the UCL Final. Of course each club will be ready to appear in the final later. This is the final match that is very much awaited by everyone in the world. And it is very difficult to predict who will dominate the game in the final later. Because both clubs are very great clubs.
Nice one! yes, they are two big clubs but Liverpool have a better history at UCL and have also played a number of times at this UCL Final, their experience is more striking than Tottenham, let's bet I'll support Liverpool! Grin




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May 23, 2019, 10:31:05 PM
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With the close of the UCL Final. Of course each club will be ready to appear in the final later. This is the final match that is very much awaited by everyone in the world. And it is very difficult to predict who will dominate the game in the final later. Because both clubs are very great clubs.
Nice one! yes, they are two big clubs but Liverpool have a better history at UCL and have also played a number of times at this UCL Final, their experience is more striking than Tottenham, let's bet I'll support Liverpool! Grin
Sorry friend, I don't like sports gambling. But I am here supporting Liverpool too. Because if seen from the experience at UCL, liverpool certainly dominates and is superior. Not that Tottenham club are easily defeated. This is according to my actual predictions.

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With the close of the UCL Final. Of course each club will be ready to appear in the final later. This is the final match that is very much awaited by everyone in the world. And it is very difficult to predict who will dominate the game in the final later. Because both clubs are very great clubs.
Nice one! yes, they are two big clubs but Liverpool have a better history at UCL and have also played a number of times at this UCL Final, their experience is more striking than Tottenham, let's bet I'll support Liverpool! Grin
Sorry friend, I don't like sports gambling. But I am here supporting Liverpool too. Because if seen from the experience at UCL, liverpool certainly dominates and is superior. Not that Tottenham club are easily defeated. This is according to my actual predictions.
haha, you don't like gambling? I think it's one of the choices and it's your choice, I'm just gambling verbally not stating directly to bet with you and putting money on a gambling table. let's support Liverpool to become champions. Grin




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I'll still enjoy the game as a spectator but I don't really care who wins though I do like to root for the underdog. I would rather have Liverpool won the league than City but I don't really care who wins the Champions league as long as it's a great game, but the fact that it's two English teams puts a bit of a dampener on it to me as it just makes it like another Premier League game really. I'm edging more towards Liverpool for the win as I like Klopp a lot, but that's basically all it comes down to for me.

Thanks for that, it's always healthy to see alternative views on this forum, even here in the Gambling section. God knows sometimes I'm wading through filth to extract one or two good posts!

Apart from my Liverpool allegiance, I love the underdog too. They do me well even in terms of betting, and this season's been very kind. I try to enjoy football as much as I can. I hardly play now thanks to a broken body heh, and the blood doesn't boil any more (I can thank Liverpool's constant heartbreaking feats for that) so I suspect even if we lose next Saturday, I won't take as long as I used to to get over it.

Struggling to get news about it. Some dumb rumour right now about Shaqiri not even benched for the final. But really good to see Bobby back in training.

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