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February 01, 2019, 04:50:23 PM
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just one of the things to try to discredit bitcoin which is false
like "bitcoin is used by criminals" stigma , while in reality it is just a fraction of what fiat money figures are
I liked the keep coke bottles chill comment, pretty much true
there are things  that we spend electricity on without thinking but we do not claim it is damaging environment
think of all the netflix movies we watch at home and all the electricity our TVs are using =netflix is damaging environment  Cheesy

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February 01, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
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If bitcoin is an environmental damage, each and every advancement is an environmental damage. From my understanding bitcoin is completely network dependent and requires adequate supply of electricity for its functioning. In specific what bitcoin consumes will be little higher than the normal consumption by systems. But the outcome of these systems were much high in comparison to others.
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February 01, 2019, 05:27:59 PM
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People have tried everything possible to drag the $Bitcoin name to the mud, from being a tool used by criminals to perpetrate, crime to being a tool for terrorism, trafficking, money laundering, child abuse, power wastage/consuming activity now claims of environmental hazards! All these tales are balderdash!

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February 01, 2019, 05:35:12 PM
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Reports of bitcoin environmental damage are ignorable because none have calculated and measured precisely how much environmental damage does by bitcoin due to electricity use or any other way but we should agree that traditional system make big damage to the nature due to there ineffective, inefficient methods and procedures but sadly no one talks about them because most want to show and spread about the bad side of bitcoin  and some how restrict its expansion

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February 01, 2019, 09:16:47 PM
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Here are a few simple facts.

1. Approx 90% of bitcoins mined are sold to pay for the electric.
2. That equates to $5 million a day on electric costs, sure some might be green, but some of that that electricity could be used by someone else that subsequently didn't have the green electric.

Miners aren't generating the electricity. They're consuming it. This is an important distinction to make.

To prevent an unreliable power grid, power plants generate electricity above and beyond demand. Miners can actually make power generation less wasteful through load balancing agreements with power plants.

We should be asking not only what percentage of mining is green, but how much miners are increasing electricity demand beyond what is already generated. Where miners are causing utility districts and power companies to purchase electricity beyond normal capacity, that's relevant. The sum total of all mining inputs is not relevant.

So basically bitcoin must be wasting $2 Billion a year that is in effect environmental damage.

If you actually account for the above, it's probably far less. Miners have incentive to operate where there is excess capacity because electricity costs will be cheaper.

You should also consider what Bitcoin might be replacing. The gold mining and banking industries require huge amounts of energy too, much of which is not green.

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February 01, 2019, 11:34:37 PM
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This news will still appear in order to spread negative information about bitcoin. It is not clear what purpose it is done. After all, if you delve into the topic it becomes clear that bitcoin mining does not harm the environment. Usually people tend to believe the scientific justification and the opinion of scientists, but how much truth in their words no one will check, because they are scientists. But it could actually be anyone, he just pretend to be a scientist and keep misinforming people. We should encourage people to always check any information and always get to the truth. This is the only way to not be deceived.

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February 02, 2019, 10:25:16 AM
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Proof of Stake and Proof of Works are basically thesame in terms of energy consumption. Where is the source of money for staking on ethereum or other PoS blockchains?  Don't forget we don't pluck money from trees...  Energy creates Value(money) or Energy = Money.
How is the money for buying ethereum stakes earned? From clean energy?
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February 02, 2019, 01:30:11 PM
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People have tried everything possible to drag the $Bitcoin name to the mud, from being a tool used by criminals to perpetrate, crime to being a tool for terrorism, trafficking, money laundering, child abuse, power wastage/consuming activity now claims of environmental hazards! All these tales are balderdash!

If you want to know the bad / negative things about bitcoins, then the list is long and you can say anything about bitcoin like it support criminals etc but this is only one side of picture. If you see the positive things in bitcoin then again you will find it very positive and useful also. It is our mindset in which way we want to see bitcoin and those who like / support bitcoin always think of positive aspects of bitcoins.

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February 02, 2019, 02:05:05 PM
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Majority accuse bitcoin of destroying the environment by consuming or wasting electricity in a bad way but We spend electricity and other valuable resources for unnecessary things that has no value and make no production but some point out the Bitcoin energy consumption as a huge problem to the world environment but with sustainable mining methods and other systems in the future Bitcoin electricity usage will headed low and such problems will not occur again

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February 02, 2019, 02:43:18 PM
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People have tried everything possible to drag the $Bitcoin name to the mud, from being a tool used by criminals to perpetrate, crime to being a tool for terrorism, trafficking, money laundering, child abuse, power wastage/consuming activity now claims of environmental hazards! All these tales are balderdash!

If you want to know the bad / negative things about bitcoins, then the list is long and you can say anything about bitcoin like it support criminals etc but this is only one side of picture. If you see the positive things in bitcoin then again you will find it very positive and useful also. It is our mindset in which way we want to see bitcoin and those who like / support bitcoin always think of positive aspects of bitcoins.

creating a negative list about something is not hard. and there is no end to that list either. but what matters is that if you start putting meaningful negative points in that list then your list wouldn't go any higher than 2 or 3 items.
all the rest such as criminal activity, money laundering, environmental damage,... are invalid things that are added to make that list long.

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February 02, 2019, 08:27:15 PM
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I think there are many worse things for the environment than mining bitcoin & we should look at them long before we question the negatives of mining.
Bitcoin mining needs to use some devices and devices that operate on electricity also negatively affect the environment. This is a bad thing. But why don't we look more positively about mining when minerals in real life depleted and you have to look for new solutions. Mining is also a solution that can help us earn a sum of money from it.

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