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March 27, 2019, 03:37:50 PM
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Or you know, find alternatives to revolution...

Hey I'm all ok for an alternative. I just haven't found any.

What do you have in mind?

Its your fucking county man. All I am telling you is you are making rather large bets without knowing your cards or what it is you are even betting. If you want to fix things you have to build a better system to displace the current system, not just burn it down and hope tyrants don't take advantage of the power vacuum. They have plans to deal with this, you don't.
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March 27, 2019, 03:44:02 PM
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Its your fucking county man. All I am telling you is you are making rather large bets without knowing your cards or what it is you are even betting. If you want to fix things you have to build a better system to displace the current system, not just burn it down and hope tyrants don't take advantage of the power vacuum. They have plans to deal with this, you don't.
That's why we're demanding direct democracy.
Burn this shit up, implement direct democracy. That's the plan.

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March 27, 2019, 09:47:25 PM
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Its your fucking county man. All I am telling you is you are making rather large bets without knowing your cards or what it is you are even betting. If you want to fix things you have to build a better system to displace the current system, not just burn it down and hope tyrants don't take advantage of the power vacuum. They have plans to deal with this, you don't.
That's why we're demanding direct democracy.
Burn this shit up, implement direct democracy. That's the plan.

Again, you aren't actually reading anything I am saying, you are just skimming it and seeing what you want to see. "Burning this shit up" is the opposite of what you need to do, and direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.
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March 28, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
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direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

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March 28, 2019, 10:16:57 AM
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direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...
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March 28, 2019, 10:37:56 AM
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direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...

Oh no, I want you to make a valid point that's all. That would be great if you made a clear claim one day.

You say it is mob rule?
Yes it is.

Any social organization is mob rule. There is no exception to that statement.

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March 28, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
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direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...

Oh no, I want you to make a valid point that's all. That would be great if you made a clear claim one day.

You say it is mob rule?
Yes it is.

Any social organization is mob rule. There is no exception to that statement.

[tells me to make a valid point, proceeds to make a totally meaningless statement backed by nothing]
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March 28, 2019, 01:57:56 PM
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Ok I'll rephrase. Direct democracy is mob rule yes. Where is the problem with that?

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March 28, 2019, 02:14:17 PM
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Ok I'll rephrase. Direct democracy is mob rule yes. Where is the problem with that?

Again you are doing that thing where I say a word like democracy, then you add little qualifiers to it in order to give yourself an out by saying, "yeah but this is a different kind of democracy". I didn't say direct democracy. I said democracy is mob rule. What is the problem with that? Most people are lazy, selfish, and ignorant just like you, and they don't have the time or inclination to do anything about that.

Did you know half of people are of below average intelligence?  I bet you didn't Wink

 Additionally humans have an evolutionary need to be accepted and part of the "in crowd", which means democracies can be lead around by the nose by the elite all the while believing they are in charge. Finally, as I previously stated, under democracy, the individual has no rights. The individual is the minority, and in democracy only the majority decides, leaving the minority with no source of redress or influence.
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March 28, 2019, 02:18:58 PM
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Ok I'll rephrase. Direct democracy is mob rule yes. Where is the problem with that?
I didn't say direct democracy. I said democracy is mob rule.

You're funny you know?

direct democracy is just mob rule

And I'm the one being lazy?
Please get your shit together and make a point.

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In order:

Its your fucking county man. All I am telling you is you are making rather large bets without knowing your cards or what it is you are even betting. If you want to fix things you have to build a better system to displace the current system, not just burn it down and hope tyrants don't take advantage of the power vacuum. They have plans to deal with this, you don't.
That's why we're demanding direct democracy.
Burn this shit up, implement direct democracy. That's the plan.

Again, you aren't actually reading anything I am saying, you are just skimming it and seeing what you want to see. "Burning this shit up" is the opposite of what you need to do, and direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.



direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...

As you can see your quote was an out of context earlier reply, not a direct reply to the comment I just made. These are the kind of disingenuous semantic games I am talking about. BTW thanks for proving my point that you simply added direct to democracy so you could use it as a semantic change of goal posts.

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[tells me to make a valid point, proceeds to make a totally meaningless statement backed by nothing]

Ok I'll rephrase. Direct democracy is mob rule yes. Where is the problem with that?
I didn't say direct democracy. I said democracy is mob rule.

You're funny you know?

direct democracy is just mob rule

And I'm the one being lazy?
Please get your shit together and make a point.

[again tells me to make a valid point, proceeds to make totally meaningless statements backed by nothing]
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March 28, 2019, 08:42:39 PM
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[again tells me to make a valid point, proceeds to make totally meaningless statements backed by nothing]

Backed by nothing but your own quote.

And again I've said I agree that democracy is mob rule. What's your point? Just saying democracy is mob rule?
Not a very useful point. But you're right. That's great. Next is fire is hot and water wet. Anything to add?

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March 28, 2019, 09:21:05 PM
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direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...

As usual you are only interested in what serves your own narrative, not the truth, logic, or learning new things.
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March 29, 2019, 09:23:51 AM
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As usual you are only interested in what serves your own narrative, not the truth, logic, or learning new things.

Can you read? Are you able to put words together?

What's your point? Minority have no right in democracy is false, they have the right that the majority accept to give them. That's true. And? That's all you want to say?

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March 29, 2019, 09:15:02 PM
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As usual you are only interested in what serves your own narrative, not the truth, logic, or learning new things.

Can you read? Are you able to put words together?

What's your point? Minority have no right in democracy is false, they have the right that the majority accept to give them. That's true. And? That's all you want to say?

I find it rather amusing you keep asking me questions you should be asking yourself. Also you already conceded that Democracy is mob rule. I am not sure why now suddenly you are pretending the minority has any say in Democracy regardless if it is "direct", "liquid", or "blue neon with sprinkles" or any other horse shit rebranding terms people come up with to repackage the same systems of government to make them appear to be new.
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March 30, 2019, 05:34:43 PM
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Protests by the people refusing to be crushed their oppressive gov't taxes.  Taxes that are paid by the working classes.  No doubt to help in part to fund the influx of immigrants healthcare needs and housing.  Taxes that line the pockets of man made global warming politicians and their sinister agenda.  Gotta love socialism. 
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I find it rather amusing you keep asking me questions you should be asking yourself. Also you already conceded that Democracy is mob rule. I am not sure why now suddenly you are pretending the minority has any say in Democracy regardless if it is "direct", "liquid", or "blue neon with sprinkles" or any other horse shit rebranding terms people come up with to repackage the same systems of government to make them appear to be new.

I'm just asking what's your point... You've made 3 pages of emptiness and we still don't know what's your problem...

Is your problem that in democracy, the minority has only the rights majority give them? That's your point?

It's a simple question no? I feel like I'm talking with an autistic child. What do you want to say?

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I find it rather amusing you keep asking me questions you should be asking yourself. Also you already conceded that Democracy is mob rule. I am not sure why now suddenly you are pretending the minority has any say in Democracy regardless if it is "direct", "liquid", or "blue neon with sprinkles" or any other horse shit rebranding terms people come up with to repackage the same systems of government to make them appear to be new.

I'm just asking what's your point... You've made 3 pages of emptiness and we still don't know what's your problem...

Is your problem that in democracy, the minority has only the rights majority give them? That's your point?

It's a simple question no? I feel like I'm talking with an autistic child. What do you want to say?

[puts point in 40 point uppercase red letters, still keeps asking what my point is]
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April 03, 2019, 07:17:36 AM
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[puts point in 40 point uppercase red letters, still keeps asking what my point is]

The problem with you is that you're not able to finish an idea or an argument.

So, under democracy minority has only the rights the majority accept to give them.

And? Where is the problem?

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April 03, 2019, 07:30:03 PM
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[puts point in 40 point uppercase red letters, still keeps asking what my point is]

The problem with you is that you're not able to finish an idea or an argument.

So, under democracy minority has only the rights the majority accept to give them.

And? Where is the problem?

The problem is we are all individuals, and all the minority on SOME subject. The belief that you will be part of the majority is IMMENSELY stupid. In Democracy there are no individual protections for human rights because the majority can always vote to remove them and there is not a damned thing the minority can do. Furthermore most people aren't very smart and are too lazy to inform themselves on these subjects, as a result they are easily manipulated and lead around. The result is in the end individuals will have no human rights. If you don't see a problem with that then you are even more stupid than you look.
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