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February 03, 2019, 01:30:10 PM
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The title says it all, a few users decide the life of any account they don't like. I wonder how is this dofferent from communism or other dictatorial regimes. That is why bitcoin isn't working and won't unless these abusers will have nothing to do with it.
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February 03, 2019, 01:41:05 PM
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That is why bitcoin isn't working and won't unless these abusers will have nothing to do with it.
Bitcoin has nothing to do with these people you're pertaining of.

a few users decide the life of any account they don't like
With this thread topic, I guess it's not related to meta, and reputation will do.

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February 03, 2019, 01:55:53 PM
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That is why bitcoin isn't working and won't unless these abusers will have nothing to do with it.
Bitcoin has nothing to do with these people you're pertaining of.

a few users decide the life of any account they don't like
With this thread topic, I guess it's not related to meta, and reputation will do.

Wrong, the systems of control allow this kind of abuse to take place. It is the systems that need analysing and fixing so that everyone is treated equally and fairly. Meta is the place for that.

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February 03, 2019, 01:57:13 PM
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>Bitcointalk is related to bitcoin, but bitcoin is not related to bitcointalk.

>The forum is privately owned, use it only if you accept the terms of using it.

>No one said that it's any different from communism or other dictatorial regimes.
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February 03, 2019, 01:59:51 PM
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The title says it all, a few users decide the life of any account they don't like.
Define "life of any account". The user is the sole decider of an account's fate; what many fail to realize growing up is that you are responsible for every one of your actions (which always have consequences).

I wonder how is this dofferent from communism or other dictatorial regimes.
Not sure if serious or trolling.

That is why bitcoin isn't working and won't unless these abusers will have nothing to do with it.
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February 03, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
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If you don't like the forum and don't want to use it you are welcome not to use it. No one is making you use it against your will, right?

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February 03, 2019, 02:03:13 PM
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It is the systems that need analysing and fixing so that everyone is treated equally and fairly.

That only works if all members are equal and responsible.

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February 03, 2019, 02:09:45 PM
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I wonder how is this dofferent from communism or other dictatorial regimes.

Perhaps you should try living in one of those dictatorial regimes and let us know. I hear Cuba is nice this time of year. But if you want the full experience you should probably go to North Korea. I bet you'll find a few "dofferences".

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February 03, 2019, 02:15:03 PM
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I wonder how is this dofferent from communism or other dictatorial regimes.

Perhaps you should try living in one of those dictatorial regimes and let us know. I hear Cuba is nice this time of year. But if you want the full experience you should probably go to North Korea. I bet you'll find a few "dofferences".

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February 03, 2019, 02:22:42 PM
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The title says it all, a few users decide the life of any account they don't like. I wonder how is this dofferent from communism or other dictatorial regimes. That is why bitcoin isn't working and won't unless these abusers will have nothing to do with it.

How are your "abusers" related to how bitcoin works?
This is just a community of different people from all walks of life. Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency. So am still failing to understand how someone's character here is going to affect how bitcoin works.

If the forum real sucks according to your standards, there is always an option to just leave. No one is forced to be here and leak the forum's *ss like "dictators "would do.

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February 03, 2019, 02:54:32 PM
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An internet forum is not a nation-state, and an account on one is not a life, therefore losing an account is not a death sentence. Rather, it is a mere dismissal from a private organisation which you never had any particular right to be a part of in the first place.

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February 03, 2019, 02:57:39 PM
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I mean, theymos literally just changed the entire DT system so it based on community votes rather than on his own opinion. Community voting is pretty much the exact opposite of a dictatorship. Still, even if DT was chosen solely by him, it still wouldn't be a dictatorship because red trust doesn't force you to do anything - you are free to continue to use the forum, complain about the forum, or leave the forum.

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An internet forum is not a nation-state, and an account on one is not a life, therefore losing an account is not a death sentence. Rather, it is a mere dismissal from a private organisation which you never had any particular right to be a part of in the first place.
This. There are way too many self-entitled people abusing this forum in every concievable way and then blaming others once their abuse is followed by consequences.

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~snip~

Very sad that I understand what you are writing about.
Sooner or later, any dictatorial regime ceases to exist. For this you need a larger number of people who disagree with such a regime. Play by the rules and everything will be fine.

Disclaimer: this message does not call anyone to act against something on the forum.  Grin

 
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February 03, 2019, 03:13:34 PM
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The title says it all, a few users decide the life of any account they don't like. I wonder how is this dofferent from communism or other dictatorial regimes. That is why bitcoin isn't working and won't unless these abusers will have nothing to do with it.

How are your "abusers" related to how bitcoin works?
This is just a community of different people from all walks of life. Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency. So am still failing to understand how someone's character here is going to affect how bitcoin works.

If the forum real sucks according to your standards, there is always an option to just leave. No one is forced to be here and leak the forum's *ss like "dictators "would do.

Let me furnish you with some possible explanations that you are obviously are unable to conceive of by yourself. Perhaps you are not a native speaker of English. Perhaps he is not saying bitcoin itself will cease to function but rather adoption of bitcoin may be damaged if people start to relate the community surrounding to to a corrupt regime.

Now imagine you hear about bitcoin. So you run a google search and find a forum that is related to bitcoin.

Next you read an interesting thought provoking  post but notice this glowing red message next to the posters name telling you that you need to treat them with extreme caution.


So you decide to research why that is.

Then you discover this person is apparently untrustworthy and requires extreme caution before dealing with them ...because they told the truth about another person telling a lie. You feel that is a bit strange. That is kind of the other way around in the real world based on your experiences.

Then you discover the person that gave them red trust for telling the truth was actually the proven liar and his 2 friends that were implicated in an extortion scheme and other dark and shady dealings.

Then you go to meta and see a bunch of other people (apparently trust system controllers) all supporting these actions and that liars are now in positions of trust and people that tell the truth are untrustworthy.

You then think fuck this shit I am out of here. Let's forget about that for now. Sounds fucked up to me.

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February 03, 2019, 03:28:39 PM
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I don't even think that this forum is near the state of communism nor do I see any kind of dictatorship. Bounty hunters gets their payment in full without any admin having a slice from upcoming ICOs (including the scam ones) can freely post their ANN thread without any approval from the admin or the section moderator first, and people can post nonsense as much as they can that would end up flooding the forum with spam. You can post anything or do business here there are just some cases that if you broke a rule you will receive a negative feedback for it.

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February 03, 2019, 03:48:16 PM
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While this thread title is obviously extremely hyperbolic, I think the question in concept is at least a valid one. There is something to be said for the concept of due process, and there are real consequences for ignoring dissent. In the case of this forum it is essentially a giant engine of drama and scams. When rules apply to some people but not others not only is confusion created but disregard for the authority of those that wield it in general. In the end this fast and loose style talks lots of freedom and decentralization, and delivers lots of cliques, systemic abuse, and results counter to what most people desire in their user experience.


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February 03, 2019, 03:58:26 PM
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System itself means rules.  So when we enter any system we are governed by rules.  Without rules it will be unsystematic.  It will prove more painful.
Manual decisions can never be 100% error free.   But it does not mean that we should not take lesson from our past mistakes.  Repeated or intentional mistakes (if any), only can be termed as dictatorial.  
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February 03, 2019, 04:22:30 PM
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What kind of communism so you see here: Marxism or
maoism?
None user tags or bans anyone without real/valid reason(s). As I see you got red trust and that's the reason of this thread. Can you visit forum, post, create thread and use all forum functions? Yes, so how is the life od your account ended? Saw your trusted feedback, there are valid references and comments given, so you didn't got it without reason. At first think maybe something is wrong with you rather than blaming forum for nothing.
Theymos isn't dictator, very loyal to be fair. He is very busy too, in democracy people are judged too, without it there would be a chaos. Absolute freedom doesn't exist nowhere.
Also it isn't dictatorism when someone spams, spreads lies, tries to scam and gots what he/she deserves.


According to coinmarketcap and according to every source expect Roger Ver's shit, bitcoin is leader. Everytime it's accepted in services, even it's possible now in Ohio to pay tax in crypto. Blockchain technologies (which has strong relationship with bitcoin) are integrated in a lot of services, everytime bitcoin gets attention and becomes popular. Marlboroza, DarkStar_ Lauda and other DT members can't affect bitcoin' progress...

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February 03, 2019, 04:52:50 PM
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You are always confused hence why you should never be a merit source. They are the same gang now since merit cyclers with 250 cycled merits are the key positions in the trust system.
Well, "confused" was perhaps too strong a word. I was just a little... unclear as to whether I should lick Lauda's arse or suchmoon's first.

Watch the gang swarm in......
Wait, I'm confused. Are we the merit gang or the Lauda gang? Huh
FTFY, and yes it is the later.
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Sorry, suchmoon, you'll have to wait your turn. Tongue

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