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February 22, 2019, 05:38:34 PM
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Lately I often see old users of the forum, historically green trust, who have changed their rank to pale orange color .... When I go to deepen each time I see that this situation is often due to real feuds among users in question , and not to situations of danger for the community: so it appear that we have a DT against DT war  Sad
Considering that trust is a value for all of us, I find very unpleasant to see people who have a certain reputation get a flea war for someting like nothing.
I hope that this is just a passing period and that sooner or later everything will return to the normalcy that I have enjoyed so much in past years.


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February 22, 2019, 06:02:16 PM
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Most if not all DT members have made some mistakes somewhere along the line, some hate each other, some barley talk to others,some misuse the "power" they have, but overall variety of opinions is good for the community.

you as a member who is not involved in all the drama - should not worry about them fighting one another, just focus on their feedback, regardless of who they are, their feedback is most of the time accurate when it has to do with trust related stuff.

also there were a few changes in the DT list, so that's why you may see a lot of score changing from time to time.

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February 22, 2019, 06:02:31 PM
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it appear that we have a DT against DT war  Sad
For your info, before a DT member we are a user of this forum. How are you expecting that all members opinions will same? This isn't exactly war, this is different between opinions. If you have 5 brothers all brothers opinion will not same. That is same also on forum. That's why if I made any mistake then others DT could tag me. And if other DT made any mistake then I could tag them. If someone on DT list it doesn't mean they can't be wrong. But it's true may be there is few retaliatory feedback's. Since we are human we could make mistake.  

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February 22, 2019, 06:11:11 PM
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Lately I often see old users of the forum, historically green trust, who have changed their rank to pale orange color .... When I go to deepen each time I see that this situation is often due to real feuds among users in question , and not to situations of danger for the community: so it appear that we have a DT against DT war  Sad
Considering that trust is a value for all of us, I find very unpleasant to see people who have a certain reputation get a flea war for someting like nothing.
I hope that this is just a passing period and that sooner or later everything will return to the normalcy that I have enjoyed so much in past years.

Everyone has their own opinion on something so just read what they are doing, you'd learn a lot from them. I don't see it affecting anyone in the forum but you'll see how their thinking process works. Interesting that some of the really can says good reasons and put a real good terms to make us see who has better judgement.

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February 22, 2019, 06:12:46 PM
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New Default Trust system was introduced recently which gives opportunities for more members to become DT so it may causes too much of chaos at the trust section of every profile but there is no need to care too much about it since trust is not moderated everyone have their own right to give feedback to anyone.

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February 22, 2019, 06:25:46 PM
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What you will find in most of these situations is personal opinions/feelings/vendettas.
A lot of those feedbacks could be taken as a note on how that Forum user operates or a characteristic of their forum use that people disagree with. If neutral trust showed under the profile as a 3rd number from the beginning people may have been more inclined to use that option, as a lot of those tags aren't related to a legitimate scam in the end, more often a perceived slight or injustice.

What I do like about it is that it has had people actually opening up the trust page to read through it, as opposed to just taking it as face value. Since the tweaking of the DT system though, as it was encouraged by theymos, people have been adjusting some of their feedbacks, as well as burying the hatchet to some extent.

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February 22, 2019, 06:41:25 PM
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Just curious, who are you talking about in particular?  My PC crashed and I lost the bookmark to all the DT lists, so I don't know if it's changed in the past week or so, or who's on DT2.  Has there been any new drama in that time frame? There have always been some members who haven't gotten along (Lauda/OgNasty for example), but I'm not aware of any recent feuds.

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February 22, 2019, 06:47:40 PM
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No one in particular, for sure. But I seen a lot of green became orange.

Just curious, who are you talking about in particular?  My PC crashed and I lost the bookmark to all the DT lists, so I don't know if it's changed in the past week or so, or who's on DT2.  Has there been any new drama in that time frame? There have always been some members who haven't gotten along (Lauda/OgNasty for example), but I'm not aware of any recent feuds.

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February 22, 2019, 07:43:45 PM
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No one in particular, for sure. But I seen a lot of green became orange.
That's because the DT list changed a lot and there are a lot of new members on DT1 and DT2, so a lot of untrusted feedbacks became trusted. Also, having a green trust doesn't mean the user is in DT.

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February 22, 2019, 08:03:39 PM
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My PC crashed and I lost the bookmark to all the DT lists, so I don't know if it's changed in the past week or so, or who's on DT2.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt - DT1 and 2 list
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full;dt - DT1 users' individual trust lists
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview - DT1 users' inclusions/exclusions for other DT1 users


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February 22, 2019, 08:58:26 PM
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Considering that trust is a value for all of us, I find very unpleasant to see people who have a certain reputation get a flea war for someting like nothing.

Simply adjust the "reputation" accordingly, i.e. build yourself a custom trust list. There is no lack of reputable members on the forum who don't use the trust system for petty squabbles, including many of the 50 or so new members of DT1, even a few right above in this thread.

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February 22, 2019, 09:48:41 PM
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Lately I often see old users of the forum, historically green trust, who have changed their rank to pale orange color .... When I go to deepen each time I see that this situation is often due to real feuds among users in question , and not to situations of danger for the community: so it appear that we have a DT against DT war  Sad
DT against DT war is not new. It's been there since the dawn of the trust system. The pale or orange color is not the same for everyone and only reflects according to your trust settings.

Just curious, who are you talking about in particular?  My PC crashed and I lost the bookmark to all the DT lists, so I don't know if it's changed in the past week or so, or who's on DT2.  Has there been any new drama in that time frame? There have always been some members who haven't gotten along (Lauda/OgNasty for example), but I'm not aware of any recent feuds.
DT vs DT war is irrelevant without mentioning Lauda lol. More like Lauda vs opinionated DT war. Nothing much really, just the usual reputation section. You didn't really miss a lot.


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February 24, 2019, 04:33:51 AM
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I don't know why you mention it by using the word "war". But In my view this isn't war its just a way how everyone sharing their own thoughts and ideology. Every single member of this forum have different point of view.  As an example some rules of this forum could be looking harsh to you but from my point of view it could be appropriate. Same thing also happening here with DT members. They are not fighting but debating with each others for a greater solution.

 

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February 24, 2019, 04:40:53 AM
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Its because there will always be good and evil in any community,abusive and fair people simply as that.
One opposes each other because of their own motives,one seek power and one seek freedom.
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February 24, 2019, 09:22:25 AM
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Its because there will always be good and evil in any community,abusive and fair people simply as that.
One opposes each other because of their own motives,one seek power and one seek freedom.

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February 24, 2019, 07:07:21 PM
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A lot on DT are not titans they are noob garbage ass kissers who scrounged and begged for enough merit and favour to be permitted on DT because they do what their masters tell them.

I would hardly trust any of them at all since they have clearly demonstrated that they will condone wrong doing and untrustworthy deeds so long as it suits them to. They will willingly sanction trust abusers and liars to continue their abuse and even openly support it.

Most need removing.

There are a few exceptions and some that have demonstrated they do have some fairness and trustworthy admirable qualities. But they are few and far between.




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