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February 04, 2019, 02:47:38 PM
Last edit: February 04, 2019, 09:11:35 PM by SvetaIvanova
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So if someone on DT1 is doing something stupid, you can ask other DT1 members to distrust them.

Good afternoon, admins,

I am here at the forum with only one goal - to take part in social media bounties. If it would be possible to participate in the bounties without an account on bitcointalk, I wouldn't register any.

I've registered an account, because each participant is required to sign up. I've never set goals to communicate, write posts, get a
high rank. I've only been sending my reports to bounty branches as required by the managers.
It's not against the rules.

What happened to my trust then?

I've mistakenly placed the report not in the bounty topic, but in another thread, it really happened by mistake. In such cases, admins should only remove the wrong post and give user a warning, nothing more. I didn't get any warnings, I was just marked with a red trust.

Then I contacted the person who gave it to me. But this user cannot come to an agreement with me, his main argument is: "you have a lot of
messages and no merit. Improve the history of your posts and get merit»

Why should I change my goals in order to satisfy this scoundrel's thirst
for power?

I always place, I repeat once again, all my messages in the bounty branches, as required by managers.

I think that the red trust for posting bounty reports where they should be  -  is completely lawless, especially from the user from the trust list.

The act of the person who marked me is a real manifestation of intolerance, violation of the freedom of will and abuse.
He oppresses me, forcing me to write posts and receive merit. I see it as a violation of my personality.
This user exceeds his authority and uses the trust rating for wrong purposes.

Ask the admins and users in the trust list to draw attention to this injustice and to return me to neutral trust.

P.S. My problem was solved. I don't know how to lock this discussion. Please, stop swear each other.
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February 04, 2019, 02:51:00 PM
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Well, theymos did say that he didn’t want DT users tagging others solely for shitposting. But you did neg trust him back for some reason?

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February 04, 2019, 02:57:01 PM
Last edit: February 04, 2019, 03:23:33 PM by The Pharmacist
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Well, theymos did say that he didn’t want DT users tagging others solely for shitposting. But you did neg trust him back for some reason?
Yep, that's true.  I don't know who Saint-loup is and wasn't aware he's on DT2, but hopefully he reads this and figures out that DT members shouldn't be tagging people just for shitposting--or not earning merits, which is what it says in his feedback.

OP might want to rethink that retaliatory feedback as well.

The act of the person who marked me is a real manifestation of intolerance, violation of the freedom of will and abuse.
He oppresses me, forcing me to write posts and receive merit. I see it as a violation of my personality.
That's a bit melodramatic.  No one here can force you to do anything.  This guy is obviously new to DT2 and doesn't know better than to neg someone for stuff like this.  I suspect he won't remain on DT for long if he keeps doing it.

Edit:
I think you should have been banned after your first 3 useless one-liners. I'm just curious as to what your sense of entitlement is based on.
Yeah, I don't know why I'm being so sympathetic.  However, if DT members start tagging shitposters it's going to be a free-for-all here, and there will be no end to the drama and chaos that would ensue.  It was decided (actually, decreed by Theymos IIRC) last year that doing it wasn't a good use of the trust system.

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February 04, 2019, 03:08:17 PM
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I am here at the forum with only one goal - to take part in social media bounties. If it would be possible to participate in the bounties without an account on bitcointalk, I wouldn't register any.



Well at least you are honest about it. Unfortunately for you, you don't put yourself forward as a desirable member with that statement, and I didn't read any more of your post. Hopefully your red trust will lead you to find some other method of bounty hunting, and the publicity from this thread may discourage others from starting.

Of course you could always reflect on the minimal earnings you will get from bounty spamming, and you could read the threads in this forum to learn of the myriad of more profitable alternatives.

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February 04, 2019, 03:16:22 PM
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I am here at the forum with only one goal - to take part in social media bounties. If it would be possible to participate in the bounties without an account on bitcointalk, I wouldn't register any.

Why are you worried about trust then?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think red trust is appropriate here. I think you should have been banned after your first 3 useless one-liners. I'm just curious as to what your sense of entitlement is based on.
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February 04, 2019, 03:17:07 PM
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Thanks for informing community about the strange act of the DT. I wish he has a solid proof to Tag you (still don't see a valid reason for a RedTag) because shitposting causes ban, not negative trust.
You just use the account for social media reports, why you seem very upset for the negative trust? A RedTrust account can always post and participate in bounties.
I would confirm you that any issue related to trust will be solved (Thanks to other DT members and trust system) and i would also confirm to you that the bitcointalk forum is great bigger than just to use it for bounties. I wish you improve your existence here by helping others and enlarge your knowledge (forget about merit, you don't need to rank up to use the forum)
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I am here at the forum with only one goal - to take part in social media bounties. If it would be possible to participate in the bounties without an account on bitcointalk, I wouldn't register any.

In fact, you abuse your right as a forum user by posting a lot of useless posts (and only them). Red trust is not appropriate here. More appropriate in this situation would be a ban under p.1

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1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]


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February 04, 2019, 03:26:40 PM
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Thanks for informing community about the strange act of the DT. I wish he has a solid proof to Tag you (still don't see a valid reason for a RedTag) because shitposting causes ban, not negative trust.
You just use the account for social media reports, why you seem very upset for the negative trust? A RedTrust account can always post and participate in bounties.
I would confirm you that any issue related to trust will be solved (Thanks to other DT members and trust system) and i would also confirm to you that the bitcointalk forum is great bigger than just to use it for bounties. I wish you improve your existence here by helping others and enlarge your knowledge (forget about merit, you don't need to rank up to use the forum)
Thanks to everybody for your replyes. I just think, it is unfair to give me red trust for only one message, that was sent by mistake.
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February 04, 2019, 03:28:23 PM
Last edit: February 04, 2019, 03:55:38 PM by DireWolfM14
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It looks like Saint-loup is on DT2 by way of Halab, who is DT1.  Most of Saint-loup's reviews seem appropriate and contain references.  I can't help but agree with all of them, even his review of you is accurate.

@OP, PM Saint-loup and ask him to reconsider his review.  Point him in the direction of this thread.  I think most DT1 member would agree that his review of you seems petty, and is an abuse DT2 powers.

If Saint-loup won't reconsider you can ask Halab to remove him from his list.

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Are Saint-loup's "sponsors".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full;dt

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February 04, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
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The trust system is not meant for forum law enforcement, such cases should be handled by "report to moderators".

Don't get me wrong, I don't think red trust is appropriate here. I think you should have been banned after your first 3 useless one-liners.

exactly ^

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Why are you worried about trust then?

apparently he might not be accepted in those b.s bounties with a neg feedback from a DT member.

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It looks like Saint-loup is on DT2 by way of Halab, who is DT1.  Most Saint-loup's reviews seem appropriate and contain references.  I can't help but agree with all of them, even his review of you is accurate.

@OP, PM Saint-loup and ask him to reconsider his review.  Point him in the direction of this thread.  I think most DT1 member would agree that his review of you seems petty, and is an abuse DT2 powers.

If Saint-loup won't reconsider you can ask Halab to remove him from his list.

Halab
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full;dt
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@OP
Can I ask you something, be honest. Why does someone who knows the word 'scoundrel' participate in social media bounties? The lowest type of bounties - quality wise. They generate enormous amounts of spam both on Bitcointalk and on social media. These bounties can get you banned on BT due to spam or in your case, red tagged, and you are also risking having your twitter account blocked since they have started to do that a lot in the last 5-6 months.
And in the end you get tokens that are maybe worth $15-20 depending on the success of the campaign.

Your name seems Eastern European, could be Russian or Bulgarian, your English is fine. Why not go for content creation, quality translations, those kind of things that wont generate such a huge amount of bounty reports and spam?

I hope you manage to sort out your issue with the red tag and change the way you do bounties.

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February 04, 2019, 04:15:22 PM
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Thank you for tagging me suchmoon.

Even though I don't see any added value from OP to the forum the neg is a bit overzealous in my mind.

Saint-Loup will be notified as well by the notification bot. Let's see what he does.
I would recommend switching this one to neutral if he really wants to keep it there.

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If I am not wrong,still his/her account can be nuked! Roll Eyes

Because the user still newbie and not contributing much to the forum,which is can be enough reason to execute.


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February 04, 2019, 04:34:51 PM
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@OP
Can I ask you something, be honest. Why does someone who knows the word 'scoundrel' participate in social media bounties? The lowest type of bounties - quality wise. They generate enormous amounts of spam both on Bitcointalk and on social media. These bounties can get you banned on BT due to spam or in your case, red tagged, and you are also risking having your twitter account blocked since they have started to do that a lot in the last 5-6 months.
And in the end you get tokens that are maybe worth $15-20 depending on the success of the campaign.

Your name seems Eastern European, could be Russian or Bulgarian, your English is fine. Why not go for content creation, quality translations, those kind of things that wont generate such a huge amount of bounty reports and spam?

I hope you manage to sort out your issue with the red tag and change the way you do bounties.

Thank you very much for the recommendations, I really plan to make reviews in my native Russian language, and now I'm doing the work that I can. It's not my fault that reports are accepted by this way.
If the admins want to get rid of such messages on the forum, they can include one paragraph to the forum rules "all bounty reports, for example, are accepted through Google forms"
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February 04, 2019, 05:02:55 PM
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So if someone on DT1 is doing something stupid, you can ask other DT1 members to distrust them.

Good afternoon, admins,

I am here at the forum with only one goal - to take part in social media bounties. If it would be possible to participate in the bounties without an account on bitcointalk, I wouldn't register any.

I've registered an account, because each participant is required to sign up. I've never set goals to communicate, write posts, get a
high rank. I've only been sending my reports to bounty branches as required by the managers.
It's not against the rules.

What happened to my trust then?

I've mistakenly placed the report not in the bounty topic, but in another thread, it really happened by mistake. In such cases, admins should only remove the wrong post and give user a warning, nothing more. I didn't get any warnings, I was just marked with a red trust.

Then I contacted the person who gave it to me. But this user cannot come to an agreement with me, his main argument is: "you have a lot of
messages and no merit. Improve the history of your posts and get merit»

Why should I change my goals in order to satisfy this scoundrel's thirst
for power?

I always place, I repeat once again, all my messages in the bounty branches, as required by managers.

I think that the red trust for posting bounty reports where they should be  -  is completely lawless, especially from the user from the trust list.

The act of the person who marked me is a real manifestation of intolerance, violation of the freedom of will and abuse.
He oppresses me, forcing me to write posts and receive merit. I see it as a violation of my personality.
This user exceeds his authority and uses the trust rating for wrong purposes.

Ask the admins and users in the trust list to draw attention to this injustice and to return me to neutral trust.
You're lying. I read your first posts in russian with google translate and they are about what? Merits...
Which real brand new user is aware of merit?

Your second post google translated
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and can ban if merit is dishonestly received?

Your sixth post, the day of your registration
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The same users get Merit from Xandri, the same users communicate in topics about rules, merit and topic design and offer themselves as meritsors. Conspiracy is so-so, of course. You can delete my message, but users are not blind, and everyone can see. I see not a specialist in forum rules and topic design, but one who understands Altcoin, ICO, trading and programming. The whole "army" of helpers is following the Newbies. Also, meritsors do them - this is the edge.

So your storytelling is just a big lie. You're obviously a multi account just here to try to earn money by abusing bounty campaigns and flooding the forum, you're certainly not even a woman, it's my belief.
I never saw a newbie opening a thread in the meta section before you, btw.

Alex_Sr quoted the first rule of the forum :
"No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads."

So if you're not able to respect the first rule of this forum, I don't know why are you here?


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February 04, 2019, 05:45:48 PM
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BTW @SvetaIvanova your history had 24 pages yesterday. 24×20=480 posts
http://archive.is/nO8QQ
Why suddenly it only has 18 pages and 350 posts now?
You did some housework today?  Roll Eyes

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February 04, 2019, 05:46:41 PM
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So if you're not able to respect the first rule of this forum, I don't know why are you here?

You're not a moderator though. Report shitposts to moderators, let them deal with it.
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February 04, 2019, 05:47:49 PM
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You're lying. I read your first posts in russian with google translate and they are about what? Merits...
Which real brand new user is aware of merit?

I was interested in that, but did not write any word about my desire of getting merit

you're certainly not even a woman, it's my belief.
a controversial way to ask me out

I don't know why are you here?
I have answered already - for social media bounties
you might have marked me...because you were sure that i wouldn't do anything.
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February 04, 2019, 05:49:48 PM
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"No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads."

That has nothing to do with his/her/it's trustworthyness unfortunately.

If you believe that account is an alt, you should tag it as an alt, not as a spammer.
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