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February 05, 2019, 06:47:53 AM
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What happened: FAKE TEAM / STEALING PEOPLE'S IDENTITY

Scammers Profile Link: ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106045.0
https://web.archive.org/web/20190205061716/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106045.0

Scammer Website: https://flinecoin.com/
https://archive.fo/9BRKY




FAKE:  Sergey Romanovsky
REAL: Bogdan Yusipchuk

https://clutch.ua/showbiz/news/potencialnyj-holostjak-9-bogdan-jusipchuk-rasskazal-o-svoih-dostizhenijah/amp
https://clutch.ua/showbiz/interview/brjunetki-ili-blondinki-bogdan-jusipchuk-rasskazal-o-svoih-predpochtenijah

FAKE: Alexander Mogilevich
REAL: Pavel Zakharov



http://sibkray.ru/news/1/867885/


FAKE: Victor Mogilevich
REAL: Roman Khmil
http://brightoutsource.com/liof/



FAKE: Alexius Polyansky
REAL:  Artem Baranowsky
https://faculty.skoltech.ru/people/artembaranovski


FAKE: Deni Balto
REAL: Denis Chernyshov
https://vseprofili.com/user/7037981

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Domain idn name: FLINECOIN.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
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Registrar URL: https://www.reg.com/
Registrar URL: https://www.reg.ru/
Registrar URL: https://www.reg.ua/
Updated Date: 2019-01-29
Creation Date: 2019-01-29T04:57:27Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-01-29
Registrar: Registrar of domain names REG.RU LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 1606
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +7.4955801111
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Registrant Name: Protection of Private Person
Registrant Street: PO box 87, REG.RU Protection Service
Registrant City: Moscow
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Registrant Postal Code: 123007
Registrant Country: RU
Registrant Phone: +7.4955801111
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Admin Name: Protection of Private Person
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Name Server: ns1.hosting.reg.ru
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DNSSEC: Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/


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February 05, 2019, 06:56:44 AM
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Nice find, I've left negative feedback on their account.
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February 05, 2019, 06:05:39 PM
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hey. my name is Trevor. I am the CEO of Midas.Investments and one of co-founders of Flinecoin.

I respect you being on guard on scam patrol. I truly do. And Fline team made a huge mistake on adding fake pictures to part of their team. (Although Deni is not fake. He is a part of Midas team)

First of all, this is a silly mistake created by miscommunication between Midas and Fline teams.

Secondly, we are not a scam project. Midas is a masternode project with a yearly history. We would not risk the reputation we build this year simply to scam.

Thirdly, the bot in the core of Fline is not scam either. I personally monitored its work for the last 4 months. You will get proofs that the bot is trading greatly on the first huge BTC move that he will predict.

Basically, nothing has changed in this project besides the reputation hit by this silly mistake.

While we were discussing the creation of the masternode coin with Fline team, we asked if they could open their faces on the first day. The reason behind that was that the bot got such tremendous results, we needed to increase the reputation of the team behind it.

Fline team really wanted to stay anonymous, because of two reasons.
- Fline team is the real crypto adepts and they think that the only not-so-scammy thing in crypto was created by anonymous (Satoshi).
- Since their bot is working flawlessly there might be some security concerns on revealing faces.
So they refused to open their faces up.

Instead they decided to put a fake names and pictures on the website until the bot has proved their work. It is important to say that the experience behind those fake masks is real. Without that experience that could not make such trading bot.

I do not want to make any excuses for our team or Fline team. I want to say that the project is as real as it can be. And the sweetest thing is that we will not open any possibility to invest in the bot, until we prove that this bot actually works.

In the end, the Fline team will remain anonymous, because they are a strong team with their own principles. Those photos will be deleted from the website.

We will have an interview with the main bot developer and publish it, which will prove you that this man has all the required skills and experience to make a bot that does 6100% per year.

We will create another BTT announcement without fake names and pictures (because this is the only thing that was fake on this project) and Deni will post a photo of himself in this thread too.

Thank you for understanding
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February 05, 2019, 06:11:01 PM
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I love how all these projects come forward saying:

1. We accidently used stock images on our website template, we didn't mean to.
2. Our team prefers not to reveal their own faces so we use the faces of other people. We're totally legit though!
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February 05, 2019, 06:17:24 PM
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I love how all these projects come forward saying:

1. We accidently used stock images on our website template, we didn't mean to.
2. Our team prefers not to reveal their own faces so we use the faces of other people. We're totally legit though!

Yeah such idiots. But I sometimes ask myself why they keep being this stupid and why those scammers always use stock pictures. If I would scam I would just ask 10 random people on the street if I can make a picture of them for a 'project' instead of using stock pictures like all those idiot scammers do.
But wel apparantly only smart people like use rather do honoust business.

Signature for rent. Your signature will be displayed an entire year in one of my threads that is visited 200+ times daily
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February 05, 2019, 06:31:42 PM
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Hello. My name is Denis Chernyshov. I have been working at Midas Investments for a year now. This post states that I am a fake person, but this is not true. I work under a certain nickname in Discord and on forums, but I am not afraid for my anonymity. My real name and surname are written in our WP which you can find on our Discord. As proof I attach my photos.
Before trying to “expose” me, you could take a look at our project.
https://pp.userapi.com/c849228/v849228862/11f983/F7srpD1UhcM.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c849228/v849228862/11f98c/GcpUUCtdA78.jpg
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February 05, 2019, 06:35:40 PM
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How often do we hear such excuses? All this is already familiar. Having cheated once, you lose trust forever!

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February 05, 2019, 08:25:33 PM
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Hello. My name is Denis Chernyshov. I have been working at Midas Investments for a year now. This post states that I am a fake person, but this is not true.
Well, so why did you used different name? Ok, I accept you are real person, but what about other person ? Are they real ? why you have used fake photo? You just come here defend that project but you are not aware about other team members. So what kind of project that team members don't know each others. Even co-founder (Trevor) and you are not aware about fake picture. Don't talk like childish.

I respect you being on guard on scam patrol. I truly do. And Fline team made a huge mistake on adding fake pictures to part of their team. (Although Deni is not fake. He is a part of Midas team)
It can not be by mistake. It was well planed. I really don't want to hear this kind of excuse. You are fully aware that you are using fake team. If you are afraid to use real face then Don't use. But why you have tried to use fake. We will never bother if there is no any team on your website. But use of fake team is a crime.

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February 05, 2019, 09:19:09 PM
Last edit: February 05, 2019, 09:31:58 PM by bubbalex
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Hello. My name is Denis Chernyshov. I have been working at Midas Investments for a year now. This post states that I am a fake person, but this is not true. I work under a certain nickname in Discord and on forums, but I am not afraid for my anonymity. My real name and surname are written in our WP which you can find on our Discord. As proof I attach my photos.
Before trying to “expose” me, you could take a look at our project.

You made wrong choice to be involved in this without anonymity. Anyway, if you have real team (at least you) why you used fake photos?

hey. my name is Trevor. I am the CEO of Midas.Investments and one of co-founders of Flinecoin.
I respect you being on guard on scam patrol. I truly do. And Fline team made a huge mistake on adding fake pictures to part of their team. (Although Deni is not fake. He is a part of Midas team)
We will create another BTT announcement without fake names and pictures (because this is the only thing that was fake on this project) and Deni will post a photo of himself in this thread too.
I don't think that you have second chance to create new ANN on this forum, community will not forget that you used fake photos. How is it possible to make fake photos on website if you gonna attract people's money? Your ANN now looks like "Hi" - https://archive.is/MwCRl
Fake photos from website was removed only after caught, even if you not scam no one should sent money to such unprofessional persons. After this accusations you can't just replace photos without any problems, you have to spend a lot of time proving to people in this thread that your project is not a scam, and most likely you will fail. Many thanks to OP.

Update
This link to ANN not working to me anymore, so I just add here account from which ANN was created - FlineBot
For more convenience 2 more accounts of their team - Trevor - Midas and DeniBalto

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February 06, 2019, 07:13:25 AM
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I love how all these projects come forward saying:

1. We accidently used stock images on our website template, we didn't mean to.
2. Our team prefers not to reveal their own faces so we use the faces of other people. We're totally legit though!

As I said earlier this project is a combination of two teams. Midas team - that has opened faces and passed various KYD, like https://review.kydcoin.io/midas/. and Fline team, which created a core product of the project -- bitmex trading bots. The bots have been trading for months now. So, basically, we combined our masternode project to this trading bot. It was a mistake to put stock or whatever images, and I explained Midas position on that. It was unprofessional, immoral and, well, retarded.

Currently, we are discussing with Fline team if we going to continue our project and what changes and restrictions we will apply to their team.

Only time will tell if we can prove that the project is not a scam. And I do not see the reasons why we will not, because I am putting my reputation and my open face on this one.

A few more words. Besides small presale that is needed for the coin development, listings and bot testing and that has huge attention by the people who know me personally (so I am responsible to them directly, since they can reach me and find me if I am going to scam), we are not taking money from our community. In any case. We are not going to make the bot accessible to use until we actually prove that it is working in like 2 months or so with the trades on our official account, which has only our money involved.

We made a mistake, we are open to face it and take full responsibility, which we are doing right now.
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