What is Bitcoin Mixer?

[PrimeNumber7]

Xmr is also becoming illegal in some countries. Mixers aren't illegal yet, as far as I know.

It would not really be possible to make using a mixer illegal.

If you send coins to a third party, you cannot control what they do with the coins. It is also difficult to know if you sending coins to a different wallet of yours is sending the coins to yourself or to a third party. If you receive coins from someone, you cannot control if they previously received the coins from a mixer. If you move coins from one wallet of yours to another, it is difficult to know if you are receiving the coins from a third party or are moving your own coins.

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[bob123]

It would not really be possible to make using a mixer illegal.

Delivering android updates can be made illegal (at least in the US)... I don't think there is anything (in the US) which can't be made illegal 

Never heard of the guy who tried to kill himself, survived and afterwards was sentenced to death for his attempted suicide? 

[Dingdongjl]

Nice I really dont have any idea about this before, thanks for sharing this information. 

Now I know the reason why chipmixer get the signature participation of high rank old user of this forum.

[feryjhie]

maybe you can update your thread by adding wasabi wallet into a bitcoin mixer and wasabi wallet that uses CoinJoin in order to anonymize BTC.
don't forget to read this thread because theymos recommend 2 wallets that good to use for mixing your coins?

[PrimeNumber7]

It would not really be possible to make using a mixer illegal.

Delivering android updates can be made illegal (at least in the US)... I don't think there is anything (in the US) which can't be made illegal 

Do you have a source for this?

Never heard of the guy who tried to kill himself, survived and afterwards was sentenced to death for his attempted suicide? 

Yes, suicide is illegal in parts of the US, this is largely so insurance companies do not have to payout for suicides. I am not aware of any jurisdiction that imposes the death penalty for attempted suicide. Most jurisdictions will put you in a physic ward if you try to kill yourself.

In addition to the reasons I listed above, in the US, making using a mixer illegal would have freedom of association issues.

[Ipwich]

maybe you can update your thread by adding wasabi wallet into a bitcoin mixer and wasabi wallet that uses CoinJoin in order to anonymize BTC.
don't forget to read this thread because theymos recommend 2 wallets that good to use for mixing your coins?

That's right, and remove https://bestmixer.io/ as it was seized already.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/europol-shuts-down-200-million-crypto-mixing-service-bestmixer

[oseikuf44]

Alternatively, just use a privacy coin and skip all the work and fees associated with using bitcoin mixers.  XMR is one of the best options considering the high trading volume and fairly stable price.

There are dozens of privacy coins as XMR which can be used to conceal the transaction so I wonder why most people waste more fees on mixer to make their tranasction private. Converting your bitcoin to XMR before sending out is the same process as using a mixer.

[nakamura12]

There are dozens of privacy coins as XMR which can be used to conceal the transaction so I wonder why most people waste more fees on mixer to make their tranasction private. Converting your bitcoin to XMR before sending out is the same process as using a mixer.

I think people have their reason why they waste more fees to have a private transaction. My opinion about their reason is that they don't know that there is a service that can conceal a transaction that time or they are just being lazy to search a service that conceal a transaction or use XMR for example.

[thd26bct]

There is a good guide on mixing, that presents there are available cheaper methods to increase anonymity, but the fact is there is no perfect method that can bring total anonymity at all. Even with the biggest mixer services. [Guide] Decent mixing methods

[RapTarX]

There is a good guide on mixing, that presents there are available cheaper methods to increase anonymity, but the fact is there is no perfect method that can bring total anonymity at all. Even with the biggest mixer services. [Guide] Decent mixing methods

I have added this tutorial at the beginning of this article. Theymos has shared the way in that article, I guess it's more than enough. Repeating the same process might help to get a total untraceable coin.

[white_rabbit_]

There is also BitCloak mixer, active since 2016 and working, but not mentioned in the list. thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372290.0

[RapTarX]

There is also BitCloak mixer, active since 2016 and working, but not mentioned in the list. thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372290.0

This is not necessary because I have added a link of the list by Lagaulios, you can check there and will find BitCloak as well. By the way, the purpose of this thread is to share the basic idea of coin mixer, not the list of clin mixer.

[naska21]

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Some Mixing Services-
1. BitBlender
2. ChipMixer
3. Cryptomixer
4. Bitcoin Laundry
5. BestMixer seized
Before sending bitcoin to any mixing service, be sure the process, don't forget to check reviews from the internet as well as don't forget to use TOR.

LaGaulios thread, listing some Bitcoin Mixer- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.0

I remain a little heads-up when facing centralized crypto services , especially when it comes to mixing ones. Is there any decentralized  mixer?  It is not always easy to hide identity when doing btc transactions  and direct p2p mixers would facilitate that.

[bob123]

Is there any decentralized  mixer?  It is not always easy to hide identity when doing btc transactions  and direct p2p mixers would facilitate that.

Not directly a p2p mixer, but coinjoin probably is what you are looking for.
This is a method to combine multiple transactions (from multiple senders) into one large transaction to obfuscate the the recipient.

Wasabi (https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi), a desktop wallet for windows, linux and mac, has this feature included.
Currently the minimum amount to queue for coinjoin is 0.1 BTC.

In this process, there is no centralized entity which is required to be trusted.

[DdmrDdmr]

Is there any decentralized  mixer?  It is not always easy to hide identity when doing btc transactions  and direct p2p mixers would facilitate that.

I think the closest you can get currently for BTC would be through Wasabi, as described here: [Guide] Decent mixing methods. It is a wallet, but it allows you to cloak your transactions amongst 50 other TX emitting candidates.

Wasabi BTC addresses though is based on Bench32, and those still have adaption lags as can be seen here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bech32_adoption.

[Distinctin]

I guess the list should be updated, the number 1 in the list just made an announcement

Bitcoin Blender is shutting down. Please withdraw.

Not sure of what will happen on the currently actively mixers.

I don't hear news about bitblender having the same problem with bestmixer, but they just shut down their business.

[royalfestus]

Sometimes i dont understand how the anonymity of the coin left, all trade can be traced but with this, if we are sure this is safe and not expensive we could adopt it more. Sometimes we dont demand or need this anonymity but I wonder what happen to this feature.

[bob123]

I guess the list should be updated, the number 1 in the list just made an announcement

Bitcoin Blender is shutting down. Please withdraw.

Good that its just number 1 mentioned in this list, and not number 1 of all mixers 

Not sure of what will happen on the currently actively mixers.

I don't hear news about bitblender having the same problem with bestmixer, but they just shut down their business.

They probably are scared now.
Happens if you can't properly organize the infrastructure.

For anonymous, professional and reliable mixing, ChipMixer is the only option right now.

[Stedsm]

Sometimes i dont understand how the anonymity of the coin left, all trade can be traced but with this, if we are sure this is safe and not expensive we could adopt it more. Sometimes we dont demand or need this anonymity but I wonder what happen to this feature.

It is actually about how you want to carry out a transaction.

Basically, as an example, if you're Alice and you've got an address named X and you're sending money to Bob and you choose to send him the coins directly, you'll use the address once and for whatsoever reasons, there's a website named https://walletexplorer.com which will be able to trace all your future transactions from addresses linked to that wallet if you keep using it. Nonetheless, even if you send coins to Bob from an address whose private key is held by you and you may have used it before already and/or have signed messages from that address, it's definitely easy to trace you. While if you choose to go for mixers (who charge from almost little to nothing), even if you continue to use the same address to send money to Bob, your wallet X will be sending coins to a different address every time you use a mixing service and nobody can actually trace ya people without knowing both of you personally and having links to your addresses. I sometimes use gambling websites to ^mix up^ my coins as they allow me to send my coins to their addresses (a unique one every single time) and I can withdraw at any address I want without the fear of getting traced but costs (as transaction fees) are very high compared to mixers. So it's better to use a mixer as it has all the properties of Dark coins' services to serve their users with enhanced privacy levels. Chipmixer doesn't really deserve to be 2nd in OP's list but it is actually the number one mixer and I've personally used it without any fear of losing my money.

[Little Mouse]

Sometimes i dont understand how the anonymity of the coin left, all trade can be traced but with this,

Not true technically. Generally all of our transaction is link with each to other. If I send you BTC and you send them to others, this ca be traced. In case of mixer, assume your address is X, mixer address is Y, another address of mixer is Z. There will be no connection with Y and Z, you send BTC to Y, mixer will give you the address Z with your BTC.
No link with your transaction. But to avoid some more issue, this mixing process isn't enough.