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February 16, 2019, 02:50:41 PM
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41. bones261 (331 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 1 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

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February 16, 2019, 03:22:59 PM
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41. bones261 (331 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 1 users with 10-249 earned Merit.


Congrats.

Want some cold water on that? It all depends on how many votes these users have and how many other users they trust and how those votes will get distributed. But seeing that you only need 2 votes from 250s and you have 9 of them... meaning 7 of them have tons of 10-merit votes for you so your chances are good. Not guaranteed but looking really good.

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February 16, 2019, 03:40:00 PM
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41. bones261 (331 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 1 users with 10-249 earned Merit.


Congrats.

Want some cold water on that? It all depends on how many votes these users have and how many other users they trust and how those votes will get distributed. But seeing that you only need 2 votes from 250s and you have 9 of them... meaning 7 of them have tons of 10-merit votes for you so your chances are good. Not guaranteed but looking really good.

     Interesting that you mention cold water since our water heater is out today.  Sad Thank goodness that I am a renter, so I don't need to pay for it. Just trying to prod the landlord to take action is the only concern.
     Since we are still more than two weeks out until theymos takes another tally, we will see what my status is then. I'm really on the cusp. You never know. Perhaps cryptohunter and Techshares can spark a revolution. Or maybe I'll piss off one of the 10 people.

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February 22, 2019, 12:20:40 AM
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WoW 113th

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135th in line for being blamed for all the ills in the bitcointalk world... I can live with that Tongue

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February 22, 2019, 10:07:13 PM
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Where does this put me, anybody shed some light on it? Will I be on DT with the next update?

40. LFC_Bitcoin (455 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit




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February 22, 2019, 10:21:54 PM
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Where does this put me, anybody shed some light on it? Will I be on DT with the next update?

40. LFC_Bitcoin (455 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit

You're meeting the minimum requirements for DT1. The only unknown is the limited number of "votes", so it depends on who else is on the trust lists of people who include you. With nine 250+ users you should be in good shape but the vote distribution logic is a bit of a mystery to me so don't blame me if I gave you false hope.

BTW you're in DT already, DT2 that is.

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February 22, 2019, 10:23:30 PM
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Where does this put me, anybody shed some light on it? Will I be on DT with the next update?

40. LFC_Bitcoin (455 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit

Probably. You will need to maintain the following thresholds.
10 votes from people with 10+ merits. You have 15. However, votes only go to the people who most need it. If the person has more than 1 person per 10 merit on their custom trust list.
2 votes from people with 250+ merits. You have 9. However, votes only go to the people who most need it. If the person has more than 1 person per 250 merit on their custom trust list.
If you make it to the DT1 list. Then the number of other DT1 members who have you on the trust list must exceed or be equal to the number that distrust you. If more distrust you, then you are not DT1, until that changes.
Oh, and by the way. For someone to be able to vote for you on the 10 merit or 250 merit level, any merit that you gave to that person doesn't count. So if someone has you on the trust list with 12 merits and you gave them 3, their vote cannot go to you for the 10 merit level. Or if someone has 262 merits and you gave them 13, their vote cannot go to you for the 250 merit level.

Just so you know, you are already on DT2 because Bill gator has you on his trust list and he is DT1.

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February 22, 2019, 10:26:49 PM
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Where does this put me, anybody shed some light on it? Will I be on DT with the next update?

40. LFC_Bitcoin (455 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit

Probably. You will need to maintain the following thresholds.
10 votes from people with 10+ merits. You have 15. However, votes only go to the people who most need it if the person has more than 1 person per 10 merit on their custom trust list.
2 votes from people with 250+ merits. You have 9. However, votes only go to the people who most need it if the person has more than 1 person per 250 merit on their custom trust list.
If you make it to the DT1 list. Then the number of other DT1 members who have you on the trust list must exceed or be equal to the number that distrust you. If more distrust you, then you are not DT1, until that changes.


Just so you know, you are already on DT2 because Bill gator has you on his trust list and he is DT1.

Oh right, cool. I wasn’t aware of that. It’s all very complicated, I’m not desperate to get onto DT1. It wouldn’t change me much as a poster. I’d still contribute in the same way I have since 2014.


 
Where does this put me, anybody shed some light on it? Will I be on DT with the next update?

40. LFC_Bitcoin (455 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit

You're meeting the minimum requirements for DT1. The only unknown is the limited number of "votes", so it depends on who else is on the trust lists of people who include you. With nine 250+ users you should be in good shape but the vote distribution logic is a bit of a mystery to me so don't blame me if I gave you false hope.

BTW you're in DT already, DT2 that is.

Thanks buddy Smiley




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It’s all very complicated, I’m not desperate to get onto DT1. It wouldn’t change me much as a poster. I’d still contribute in the same way I have since 2014.


Disclaimer: I think that I explained it to you properly. However, I'm still quite a bit confused by it as well.

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February 22, 2019, 10:37:38 PM
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It’s all very complicated, I’m not desperate to get onto DT1. It wouldn’t change me much as a poster. I’d still contribute in the same way I have since 2014.


Disclaimer: I think that I explained it to you properly. However, I'm still quite a bit confused by it as well.

I appreciate the effort you went to bones, thank you.




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February 23, 2019, 12:23:01 AM
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People with less than 250 merit don't like me.  Cry

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86. bones261 (321 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 0 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

See, it's not just me.  I'm still not sure how you ended up on my distrust list, and now that I'm getting closer 250 I find myself liking you more and more.  

It must be the merit sauce...  I like it dry, with two olives.  

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February 23, 2019, 01:20:25 AM
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People with less than 250 merit don't like me.  Cry

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86. bones261 (321 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 0 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

See, it's not just me.  I'm still now sure how you ended up on my distrust list, and now that I'm getting closer 250 I find myself liking you more and more. 

It must be the merit sauce...  I like it dry, with two olives. 



I hope to keep serving it up, just as you like it.  Wink


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February 23, 2019, 09:21:14 AM
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Updated!
See http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/

Something's wrong with my ranking: suchmoon overtook me Tongue
I think the oldest account comes first when users have the same number of inclusions at 250+ Merit.


So if someone has you on the trust list with 12 merits and you gave them 3, their vote cannot go to you for the 10 merit level.
I should still adjust the numbers for that.

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February 24, 2019, 12:26:27 AM
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Something's wrong with my ranking: suchmoon overtook me Tongue
I think the oldest account comes first when users have the same number of inclusions at 250+ Merit.

You should sort by 10s when 250s are equal, that way you'll get back to the top since you have more 10s.

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February 25, 2019, 10:11:35 PM
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You should sort by 10s when 250s are equal, that way you'll get back to the top since you have more 10s.
Lol Cheesy
I wasn't serious, the current ranking is good enough.



I've added DT1-tags to users who are currently on DT1. This also shows users who are close to dropping out of DT1. Example:
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86. Gunthar (DT1! (4) 84 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 3 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
Gunthar is currenly on DT1, but he's one inclusion short for the next voting round.

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February 28, 2019, 10:36:54 PM
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UPDATE!
Seriously though, the "not including merit you yourself sent" rule - or rather you ignoring it - is skewing things a lot, at least for me.
I've now implemented this. It is once again a complete coincidence that I end up on top again Cheesy

See the second link for the new data:
http://loyce.club/trust/ranking.old/ (including merit sent by the user himself for voting power)
http://loyce.club/trust/ranking.new/ (excluding merit sent by the user himself for voting power)

I'll leave these 2 links for a while, in case someone is interested to see the difference. New updates will be at http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/ again, overwriting old data.

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Note that, on user's ranking pages, the number of Merit with voting power for that user isn't shown, but it is used for sorting.
Suchmoon (the most generous merit sender) is a nice example:
1. LoyceV (DT1! (33) 1951 Merit earned)
2. DdmrDdmr (1796 Merit earned)
3. Last of the V8s (1361 Merit earned)
4. The Pharmacist (DT1! (28) 1469 Merit earned)
5. o_e_l_e_o (DT1! (Cool 1235 Merit earned)
6. Jet Cash (DT1! (6) 1019 Merit earned)
7. Vod (DT1! (31) 987 Merit earned)
8. xtraelv (DT1! (14) 1005 Merit earned)
9. Lauda (DT1! (17) 835 Merit earned)
10. TMAN (DT1! (15) 864 Merit earned)
The Merit amount shown is the total Merit earned by the user. For example, Last of the V8s ranks above The Pharmacist, despite having less Merit. That means suchmoon has sent (much) more Merit to The Pharmacist than to Last of the V8s, leading to a drop in ranking for The Pharmacist when those Merits are excluded.

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March 02, 2019, 07:28:44 AM
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List updated!
See http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/

The list is 4 names longer than last week. The number of inclusions by 250+ Merit users goes up, as a few users crossed the 250 Merit line. That earned theymos a second place, chances are he'll kick me down next week.
(I need a different sorting again Tongue)

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March 02, 2019, 08:47:50 AM
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Can we get an extra "trust button [DT Trust: 0: -0 / +0]" instead of adding ";dt to the end of URL"?
You should post this somewhere in Meta, for instance Community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them).
But I don't think theymos will add it, he wants users to set their custom trust list. Forcing DT-view on them does the opposite.

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March 03, 2019, 10:21:06 AM
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I've created a thread on possible scenarios to change DT1-voting, see [scenarios] Changing Merit and Activity requirements for DT1-voting.
Note that I'm not endorsing any of those scenarios, I'm just showing options.

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