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February 08, 2019, 04:09:15 PM
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it is wrong to believe that ICOs that have a successful sales,TGE, testnet,mainnet, ETC are been dump by bounty hunters and airdrops owners. whoever come up with that fact got it all wrong.
i strongly believed that TOKENs are been dump by the same investors that gained lots of bonus of their investment should be held responsible. Never and never will you put it on the hunters. it is business people. everyone wants to make money very quick.
My reason below:

A project minted one millions tokens and draws out plans for sales and distribution with this format:
50,000 for bounties and airdrops
700,000 for sales
100,000 for managers, ambassadors, legal team, and the rest.
150,000 for research, contest giveaways and probably burnt the remaining tokens and bla bla bla.
1 token= 0.001eth
minimum investment=0.1    therefore 0.1eth = 100 tokens
this is use case scenario)
ICO sales promises a tangible % of the minimum investment. eg 25% of what u invest) for 1st sales. if you invest, 1ETH, you get, 1000 token Plus 250 tokens= 1250 total.
                                                                                               10% of what you invest for 2nd sales. if you invest 1Eth, you get 1000 tokens plus 100 tokens = 1100 total

For the bounties and airdrops, there is every tendency that the highest earner for a bounty goes home with 2000 while the rest battles with the remaining 48,000 tokens.
there is also a probability that there will be left over at the end of the bounty distribution which the bounty manager sends back to the project owners.

it is very clear that this business is all about the more you invest, the high change of getting more tokens.I  believe that since an investor can spend over 5,6 or more eth to gain huge bonus from his investment.  he wastes no time selling off his goods immediately it hits the market and knowing perfectly well that he is on the profit.
EG
he spend 2 ETH  to get 2500 tokens. (500 tokens are bonus) . The token hits the market at the price of 0.0005eth if we can start from that price.
he choose to sell back 2200 tokens at 0.000987 to get 2.1736ETHEREUM.
He gains 0.1736 from this sales and still a  left over of 300 tokens in his wallet.
There is a probabilty that the price might go up. he might sell if he wishes or he can keep for the long term strategy.

While a bounty hunter that earns an average of 1,200 to 800 tokens manages to sell off at 0.000987 (if he earn 1200) to get 1.184eth which covers stress time, internet bills and miscellaneous stuff.

Also remember that while an investor is free to DUMP off his token and move on to another project, the hunter's token is luck up for months.

SO i believed that tokens are dumped in the market by the same investors once they are sure of profit in order to move to the next ico in the market. Not the bounty hunters or airdrop holders.



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February 08, 2019, 04:26:01 PM
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It's widely known that the biggest dumpers are presale and private investors who get big discounts in ICOs. In your example, you are talking about one investor who gets a 25% bonus, which is relatively low considering that there are ICOs where early investors can get 50% or higher bonuses. They can easily sell their tokens, get profit and buy again at a much lower price.
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February 08, 2019, 04:32:38 PM
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In short, everyone is just chasing for the profit and don't want to miss the train of dumping.

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February 08, 2019, 04:42:51 PM
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Yes you are on point i will add one two more points in your topic, one is that from last one year what ever the tokenomics or even the icos without bounty the prices have still dumped so i guess its about overall market volume and demand in the market secondly in last one year bounty hunters have not received any decent reward so question of dumping in big numbers just gets diluted. I think this question and debate will continue till there is ico and bounty.

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February 08, 2019, 04:47:47 PM
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It's about trading strategy. If you are sure that the project you are investing in is a good project, then you might dump and buy back later when the price is low.

Why would you hold if you are sure that the dumping is inevitable? Both smart investors and smart hunters dump and buyback.

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February 08, 2019, 05:20:13 PM
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There were a lot of publications on this occasion. Always after a successful ICO there is a short-term pump. Then, the cryptocurrency rate drops sharply and it takes a very long time for the cryptocurrency to grow again to the previous values or higher. Jan balina published a very cool schedule on this topic, but I couldn't find it.

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February 08, 2019, 05:31:46 PM
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I want to agree that private investors dump more than bounty hunters can do, infact most of the projects these days don't give bounty hunters their rewards until the price has dump to nothing. I guess locking the token of private investors will be the best like some projects are doing now.

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February 08, 2019, 05:44:22 PM
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I think the reason is because nobody bought it. even though the project was good but there was no demand it was like a big dump. so it doesn't matter who sells the tokens first. because the reason is that nobody bought the token after listing.

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February 08, 2019, 06:08:43 PM
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Good day! In would say that private sale investors do the dumping the most because they bought their tokens at a lower price than ICO. But in fairness to them, private investors are the risk takers of all considering private sales requires a higher minimum purchase amount. They are what we call brave ones who are ready to gamble either its a win or loose game. As we know not all token sales are successful. So them selling their bags once tokens reach exchange is their right.

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February 08, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
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I've always been aware that bounty hunters are not to blame for a dump. I also believe that the investors who bought their tokens with a big bonus are the people who dump the token for provit.
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February 08, 2019, 06:34:45 PM
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The major causes after successful ICO is because of the investors that are invest huge amount during the pre sale and during ICO. After they have make their money and  profit they have in focus they decided to dumped the token.
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February 08, 2019, 06:49:03 PM
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The major causes after successful ICO is because of the investors that are invest huge amount during the pre sale and during ICO. After they have make their money and  profit they have in focus they decided to dumped the token.

Discounts are evil. Bounty in tokens is evil as well. Both of them lead to a strong dump after the listing at any exchange. To prevent it founders should spend a lot of money to buy back tokens at the exchange with a high price. But there are too few teams which are able to do that.

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February 08, 2019, 06:51:34 PM
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I will agree with you to some extent but I still believe that bounty hunters do contribute to the dumping of tokens. If you observe the market of some newly listed token from successful ICO's you will see that the rate of dumping is always high immediately bounty tokens are paid or released.

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February 08, 2019, 06:59:22 PM
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The simple truth is "Profit" People want that quick profit and most of them forget that the project exists after dumping, so price keeps going down except it was listed in a bullish trend.

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February 08, 2019, 07:01:45 PM
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ICO phase is just a promotion phase, you are announcing and then show casing what you are going to do in that phase and based on this people may contribute to you if they are convinced with your promises and other checks. But, collecting as much as money as per expectation alone will not decide the success of a project hence its token may get dumped if investors lose faith on that project.

It means a project must assure about long term benefits so that its token holders may not come forward to dump. A successful ICO has nothing to do about market fluctuation of its token as it is pure based on how promising that project remains in the view of its investors.

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February 08, 2019, 07:54:57 PM
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I was always wondering why TRON and another Justin Sun related projects so succeed. He managed to pump any project he started and this policy gradually leads to great success of any Justin Sun project nevertheless these project don't show a real performance and development. Bravo))

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February 08, 2019, 08:00:41 PM
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It is no longer a secret that investors, bounty hunters e.t.c dump their tokens just to make profit. Infact a bounty hunter that has spent months promoting a project, the next thing he or she has in mind is to dump tokens once distributed for maximum profit

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February 08, 2019, 08:07:28 PM
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Investors that change their mind or opinion about the project usually starts to dump it as soon as the token hits an exchange. Again, there are those bounty hunters that wants to cash out their project. So, they usually starts to dump all their earnings to get their payment. That is why it is never a wise thing to sell out the coins as soon as it listed on an exchange.

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February 08, 2019, 08:09:59 PM
 #19

I don't know why you are trying to justify this, that bounty hunters are not the ones dumping the price after the ICO, there is no way bounty hunters can be make clean of this issue, because when you see someone using different accounts to claim tokens and move it to exchange to sell because he or she got it through a cheat. For me everyone is guilty, the team, VCs and he investors because it does not make sense to me to buy something today and sell at loss a week later, this is even common of ICOs without bounty campaigns

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February 08, 2019, 08:15:21 PM
 #20

The most valuable reason for a big dump after the first listing on exchanges are the bounty hunters. Due to the current market situation they are trying to earn at least something after any bounty to stay in crypto sphere.
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